what's the point?
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that most of the people here at wrongplanet have either suffered greatly, or watched others suffer greatly because of autism/aspergers. Society will never truly accept us, just as relatively homogenous groups never truly accept those who are different.
The prospects for meaningful relationships are almost non-existent, as we cannot interact compatibly with NT's, and they have no real incentive to make allowances for us. The same thing is true in the workplace. I read a study that showed that 88% of aspergians in the UK were unemployed. It's probably not much better here in the US. With the depression (not recession) we are in right now, those numbers will only get worse for the foreseeable future. So Aspies can't even bond together because then there is no one to earn money.
So if you can't work, and can't find a significant other to love you and provide for you, where do you go? If you are lucky, you can live with parents. If not, a homeless shelter or psych ward. When stuck home with parents, you are not free. Often, parents won't truly understand your behavior, even after knowing you your entire life. It leads to fights and tension, and even if your parents don't threaten to throw you out, (mine haven't), you still feel unwelcome at times. If you can't live at home, then your last bit of self-respect will probably be taken from you at a shelter or ward. Death would be preferable.
So how do we cope? We have obsessions. These obsessions further serve to isolate us from others. Then, if something interferes with those obsessions, we have nothing. NT's are incapable of understanding what those obsessions truly mean to us, and can mock us, or blame us for our misery.
The name of this website is correct. We really are on the wrong planet. Too bad there is no "right" one. I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of how our abnormalities cripple us. If the odds of any measure of personal or professional success are so low, what is the point of continuing to suffer? If there is nothing to look forward to, and the past and present are bad, maybe dying is the best option. We will all die in the end. Is the time left worth less than nothing?
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Thats pretty much how I feel about things right now......though I think a homeless shelter or psych ward would be much better then my moms house at least I might have a bit of personal space. I have no personal space there at all, I sleep on the couch(unless I am at my friends house) in the living room so its quiet late at night but the rest of the time everyone else is in there. I enrolled in college out of desperation, hoping whats left over from the loans and grants after the tution will be enough to pay rent somewhere or split rent with my sister. But its doubtful, i feel like I won't be able to fight off the depression long enough to get anywhere. I mean there is not much I can say I like about my life at all. Not to mention any help that I might benifit from seems so ridiculously far out of reach since I have like 30 dollars to my name. So I am having a hard time seeing the point of continuing to even live.
You must listen to me. The way this world is set up is they want you to feel like there is no hope and that things won't get better. But they do. You are on the good side, everything that tries to tear you down, does so because they know you are special and they don't like that. Don't let them win. Stay positive. You must learn your power. Learn about yourself and how unique you are. We are in for some good things if we stay on the right path and are strong.
The prospects for meaningful relationships are almost non-existent, as we cannot interact compatibly with NT's, and they have no real incentive to make allowances for us. The same thing is true in the workplace. I read a study that showed that 88% of aspergians in the UK were unemployed. It's probably not much better here in the US. With the depression (not recession) we are in right now, those numbers will only get worse for the foreseeable future. So Aspies can't even bond together because then there is no one to earn money.
So if you can't work, and can't find a significant other to love you and provide for you, where do you go? If you are lucky, you can live with parents. If not, a homeless shelter or psych ward. When stuck home with parents, you are not free. Often, parents won't truly understand your behavior, even after knowing you your entire life. It leads to fights and tension, and even if your parents don't threaten to throw you out, (mine haven't), you still feel unwelcome at times. If you can't live at home, then your last bit of self-respect will probably be taken from you at a shelter or ward. Death would be preferable.
So how do we cope?
what a sorry idea of life is that? i cope by seeing life as a game and everyone in my life is a sprite in the game i play. i do like some people, and they like that i like them.
i do not feel that they are bad just because they do not understand me.
they do not have to understand me in order to like me, and i do not have to understand them in order to like them.
i am not stupid an i can contribute to the world i see in ways that some people sorely need, whether or not they know where i am coming from.
some nt's do that . they can poke their penises in their own bottom as far as i am concerned. but i do what i do after i think about what i am going to do and i see smiles among the frowns. i ignore the frowns unless they annoy me.
maybe it is for you. time for me is time to breathe and eat and i enjoy doing those things because i slake my desire to do them which relieves a need.
i only care for my own life (with the exception of tammy and my animals) and i will take from the world what i can to feed me and tammy and my animals, and i would never think of giving up in the long term. even though i may have posted a recent post about depression where i throw my hammer away, i always know where it landed and i always pick it back up when i wake into a new day.
b9, you should care about more than just yourself. Everyone in the world is a mirror. We are one with each other. When someone is mean or cruel it is because they are blind or ignorant of the negative thoughts that control them but underneath they want to be healed as well. We must care for others as well as ourselves.
yeah cool.
Everyone will die in the end, though. People from all walks of life. I had a pretty horrible childhood and have dealt with difficult things in my life that were made much more difficult by AS, but I work in social services and never cease to be amazed by the awful things I see people going through.
Sometimes people with Aspergers, myself included, start to get an 'us versus them' type of mentality, but our community is definitely not the only one with challenges. Even people who appear to have it together on the surface are often nursing some sort of secret pain.
OP, I notice that you are in Central NJ, so you are relatively close to GRASP support groups in both New York and suburban Philly. If you haven't before, maybe you could check them out. I attend the one on Philly pretty regularly and it's been helpful for me in keeping perspective on things, ie. it helped me to realize that although I have plenty of 'issues,' at least I am not alone.
While I would agree on certain points you've made, I don't think it would be right to say the situation is hopeless. It is true that most of us here have suffered due to their AS/autism, but we survived it, right? We have the strength to continue on, the strength to keep moving forward despite opposition. You just can't let any of it get to you or it will eat away at you and you will lose hope.
That's what I think at least. We all have different coping mechanisms. Some haven't found them, some have. Mine's positivity. Or I try to be at least. It works most times though.
Getting by with obsessions is better to being helplessly attracted to to people you're whole life to realise you are dying alone. At least in my dying moments I'll have the reconciliation of knowing I never really cared much about life to begin with, and that I've never been delusional about the intrinsic worthlessness of living. I've faced up to my death, then carried on.
I might never fall in love, or even have a job, but I have few expectations from life so it's difficult for me to be disappointed by it. People are born dying, and every day of functionality is an good thing
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The one outlet I had was weightlifting. But that has been taken away since September, and I don't see all of my physical issues (see the bone spurs - I can't stand it anymore thread on this forum), being resolved for at least another several months. For the last three nights I have had nightmares of new injuries (although most of my current issues are hereditary). Sleep is not even an escape for me. On a slightly more positive note, does anybody know of a good orthopedic surgeon within 200 miles of central NJ who is used to operating on athletes? It's even better if he takes Oxford health insurance.