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30 Jan 2011, 4:38 pm

... and what makes you weaker makes you less deserving of the things that you either may want or need. If people go through hard times or dark nights of the soul for too long people assume that they don't have it together, they don't love themselves, or just happen to be failing as adults. The blame is fully on them.

Anyone kind of see how all of society's wonderful truisms and support networks still seem to just funnel back to evolutionary psychology and eugenics? If you find yourself war weary beware - soon enough you'll be part of the invisible class and, as part of that class, you will be rendered impotent in any outward sense.

Lol, I know this is lovely stuff to think about but - I know a lot of people who are looking at their lives and quite vexed that, even for the avid problem solvers that they are, they find themselves strapped into a rollercoaster so tightly that they can't move a muscle and all they can do is lay there helpless to watch what's coming. Some of them try to fix this by going wild on extreme sports and flash/flare, some throw themselves at religion, others become self improvement junky's but it seems like all are fighting the inevitable - if you aren't wanted, don't fit a stereotype through and through, your appearance and personality don't match or don't add up, if you just happen to be neurologically exotic in some way, there's no fixing it and no getting things on track. Any measure you can take for yourself is pretty much palliative.

The human condition's a b***h isn't it?



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30 Jan 2011, 4:56 pm

I really enjoyed that post, thanks for making it.


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30 Jan 2011, 5:00 pm

While what you say isn't without it's truths, I think your perspective isn't entirely correct.



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30 Jan 2011, 6:13 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
... and what makes you weaker makes you less deserving of the things that you either may want or need.

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The human condition's a b***h isn't it?


Yep.

It's easier to make money if you already have it. And if you have a lot, then it's easier to make a lot more. If you're poor, you're likely just f***ed.

It's easier to get a job if you already have one. Some hiring agencies are literally refusing to consider people for jobs if they are currently unemployed. I guess it's that 'evolutionary' attitude.

It's easier to get friends and lovers if you already have them.

Much of life does seem set up to reward success with more success and punish failure with more of that.



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30 Jan 2011, 6:50 pm

The story of life: Everyone wants to be wanted
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I can tell of hardship, but these things haven't made me weaker. On some points it has made me alot stronger.

I do recognise the war weary feelings, tired of fighting for your needs or stop seeing the use of your needs since they look unobtainable (relationship, sex, promotion, etc.). Pessimism is the big trap in this state.
Just get help with your troubles, you don't have to fight the world alone you know.


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31 Jan 2011, 1:31 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
... and what makes you weaker makes you less deserving of the things that you either may want or need. If people go through hard times or dark nights of the soul for too long people assume that they don't have it together, they don't love themselves, or just happen to be failing as adults. The blame is fully on them.

Anyone kind of see how all of society's wonderful truisms and support networks still seem to just funnel back to evolutionary psychology and eugenics? If you find yourself war weary beware - soon enough you'll be part of the invisible class and, as part of that class, you will be rendered impotent in any outward sense.

Lol, I know this is lovely stuff to think about but - I know a lot of people who are looking at their lives and quite vexed that, even for the avid problem solvers that they are, they find themselves strapped into a rollercoaster so tightly that they can't move a muscle and all they can do is lay there helpless to watch what's coming. Some of them try to fix this by going wild on extreme sports and flash/flare, some throw themselves at religion, others become self improvement junky's but it seems like all are fighting the inevitable - if you aren't wanted, don't fit a stereotype through and through, your appearance and personality don't match or don't add up, if you just happen to be neurologically exotic in some way, there's no fixing it and no getting things on track. Any measure you can take for yourself is pretty much palliative.

The human condition's a b***h isn't it?

True but giving it perspective at least your not trapped in a burning car. Or my wifes cousin who was deaf, dumb, blind and a tetraplegic.



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31 Jan 2011, 2:56 am

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True but giving it perspective at least your not trapped in a burning car. Or my wifes cousin who was deaf, dumb, blind and a tetraplegic.

I think we can all find people who are worse off, this is absolutely true. Moment to moment though its very difficult though not to size our own identities, who we are, what we want from ourselves, and what we want to manifest, up against the opportunities or lack thereof as well as the red tape of life which, half the time you can feel bound and gagged in.



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31 Jan 2011, 4:40 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
nostromo wrote:
True but giving it perspective at least your not trapped in a burning car. Or my wifes cousin who was deaf, dumb, blind and a tetraplegic.

I think we can all find people who are worse off, this is absolutely true. Moment to moment though its very difficult though not to size our own identities, who we are, what we want from ourselves, and what we want to manifest, up against the opportunities or lack thereof as well as the red tape of life which, half the time you can feel bound and gagged in.

Yeah. I'm having a beer right now and thats helping.



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31 Jan 2011, 4:52 am

i dig.



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06 Feb 2011, 12:54 am

I actually agree this time. I didn't get support when one of my rock idols passed away, so I stuffed my feelings inside in the real world for 7 months. I'm really sick. I might even die of pnemonuea. 25 percent of the people who get it die, whether they get treatment or not. I've never felt so weak in my life. Don't stuff your emotions in, or else you'll make yourself very sick and weak.


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06 Feb 2011, 3:02 am

This is what i've thought and accepted my whole life. I refuse to blame myself for my own failings and reject this society and it's mores.



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07 Feb 2011, 3:40 am

It's hard to get on a roll of good s**t. For me, i sometimes feel that subconsiously i don't want to succeed. Whenever i'm on the verge of something good or have walked into good fortune I often either accidentally or deliberately mess it up. I think this is to do with the feeling of things being 'too good to be true'. I think this is where truly successful people differ, they take advantage of good fortune the very split-second it arrives. Wheras I have to stop and question it until the window of opportunity has closed. I find on those rare days when everything gets better and better that I tend to push harder, I try to fix every problem whilst the feeling is good. I end up wairing myself out rather than drawing a line on things and setting the precedent for the next day. I don't know where all that came from


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