Do I appear to have Manic Depression, or Bi Polar Disorder?

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06 Sep 2006, 10:44 am

Last fall, I was in a miserable Mood on most days. I've also had a bit of an Attitude Problem. I was arguing with people who were trying to exercise Authourity over me, which includes my parents. From December through February, I was having feelings of elation, mainly because I was allowing me to be myself, for the first time. From Mid February until Mid March, I was miserable once more. From Mid March, until the last week of July, I was feeling elated again. I was feeling miserable through the whole month of August. Now I'm starting to feel elated once more.

These are the Delusions that I've been having:

:arrow: That I was going to win the 6/49 and live in a Hotel at Piccadilly Circus or Trafalgar Square
:arrow: That I was going to win the 6/49 and become a Flower Child, because I would feel at peace for once
:arrow: That things haven't really changed between my parents and I since 1985, when I was Ten
:arrow: That there are registered Lurkers who visit the more private Forums to get their kicks, who aren't on the Spectrum
:arrow: That I'm going to win the 6/49 and live in a three-story Dream style Home in the Countryside
:arrow: That I'm going to win at least $4,000,000 and live in a Routemaster beside Hyde Park, in London

Do I appear to have Manic Depression, or Bi Polar Disorder?



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06 Sep 2006, 1:37 pm

My brother has bi-polar and I have A.S. & A.D.D.

From what you've described it's highly unlikely that you have bi-polar (in my humble opinion).

Bi-polar (according to my brother's Psych.) is triggered by a major trauma (something super super super big). I say 'triggered' because it's an inherited condition but most often doesn't appear at all unless there's a major event to kick it off.

It's also something that 'everybody' would notice you had. Interestingly, my brother's Psych. says that it is very rare for A.S. and bi-polar to occur together - to the extent that if you had both some medical research department would take a passing interest.

Ups and downs are part of pondering I think and people with A.S. do more pondering than most, which might be a good thing. (The philosopher Socrates said: "The unexamined life is not worth living."



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06 Sep 2006, 3:22 pm

Thankyou for the insight. I've been having Mood Swings, lately. 8)



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06 Sep 2006, 3:24 pm

I've read in a few places now that bi-polar disorder (otherwise known as manic depression) and autism are related.

Eg: "It is tempting to say that autism and manic depression are caused by a defect in the same gene," says DeLong, "and genetic evidence is beginning to point in that direction."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_66011862

My grandma was diagnosed with it, so perhaps it's no co-incidence that my children (and my cousin's children) are autistic.

I must admit that I don't know a great deal about the condition as we hardly ever saw her. However, it might be worth speaking to your doctor about it because it sounds like you're having a horrible time.



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06 Sep 2006, 5:03 pm

That's really interesting because my brother's psych said that AS and Bi-Polar run together in families. That's when she told my brother and father that the two together are very rare.

We know our family has the two conditions running along we sort of thought of them as only having a little bit in common (because otherwise why not the two together?).

My brother had huge lows and looked like he was in a trance where he didn't move much at all for weeks. When he was through that he didn't sleep and couldn't stop being active for weeks. He had incredible halucinations through lack of sleep. A drug treatment finally reduced the extremes.

The beginning was so dramatic. All the other people at his clinic began with an Oscar-winning performance of some kind - a kind of sleep-walking theatre of a world -beating kind.

My brother had a near fatal traffic accident and that's what triggered the bi-polar potential. A lady's bi-polar was triggered by child-birth. Another was a man who suddenly lost his job.

These days he is better and his drugs dose is reduced to minimal.



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06 Sep 2006, 5:58 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Thankyou for the insight. I've been having Mood Swings, lately. 8)


Okay, not wanting to sound rude, but do your mood swings correspond with your time of the month?

Not that I don't have 'em myself. (Mood swings, I mean, and I'm sure I don't have bipolar)


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06 Sep 2006, 7:20 pm

Are you really feeling elated, or are you just happier than before? It's easy to confuse the two when you have been feeling down for so long. Do you feel like your thoughts are racing faster than you can say or write them? Do you have grand plans and aims which are unrealistic? I can't say for sure that you're not bipolar, it's very hard to tell over the internet, and I am not medically trained anyway. But the things you have said in your post don't make me think you are bipolar.

As for your delusions:

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That I was going to win the 6/49 and live in a Hotel at Piccadilly Circus or Trafalgar Square
That I was going to win the 6/49 and become a Flower Child, because I would feel at peace for once
That I'm going to win the 6/49 and live in a three-story Dream style Home in the Countryside
That I'm going to win at least $4,000,000 and live in a Routemaster beside Hyde Park, in London

Do you really believe that these things are going to happen? Or are they things you have been thinking about a lot? It's very common in autism to keep thinking about certain things, often to the point of obsession. If you recognise that these things are delusions, and not reality, they are probably not delusions.

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That things haven't really changed between my parents and I since 1985, when I was Ten

I don't know much about your relationship with your parents, but it's quite possible that this is actually true.

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That there are registered Lurkers who visit the more private Forums to get their kicks, who aren't on the Spectrum

Again, this may well be true. Some people have so little in their lives that the only pleasure they can get is at other people's expense. This is what trolls are, who post things deliberately to wind people. I expect there are people who lurk for the same reason.

If you are worried about your thoughts, the best person to speak to your doctor. If these things are getting out of control and causing you distress, they can be treated.



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06 Sep 2006, 7:42 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Thankyou for the insight. I've been having Mood Swings, lately. 8)

Yes, I have observed that you experience mood swings. There are other people here who appear to be more severe. I've also noticed that you appear to bounce right back in a day or two. You strike me as one of the healthier people on this site.


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06 Sep 2006, 9:55 pm

Quatermass wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Thankyou for the insight. I've been having Mood Swings, lately. 8)


Okay, not wanting to sound rude, but do your mood swings correspond with your time of the month?

Not that I don't have 'em myself. (Mood swings, I mean, and I'm sure I don't have bipolar)


Yes, the Mood Swings indicate that it's almost "That Time of the Month!" (I love that Twisted Toon.) :lol:

I also seem to get like this, when there's a Full Moon.



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06 Sep 2006, 10:03 pm

Sounds to me more like your just fantasize a lot about things. That's normal.

As far as mood swings? Those to the best of my knowledge are fairly normal too. And you shouldn't feel bad about having them.

Accept yourself for who you are, then try and be the best you that you can be.


And I also get the impression you're already of an attitude like this :P From the sound of your posts, you seem to be somewhat along when it comes to balancing your life.



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06 Sep 2006, 10:06 pm

Tally wrote:
Are you really feeling elated, or are you just happier than before? It's easy to confuse the two when you have been feeling down for so long. Do you feel like your thoughts are racing faster than you can say or write them? Do you have grand plans and aims which are unrealistic? I can't say for sure that you're not bipolar, it's very hard to tell over the internet, and I am not medically trained anyway. But the things you have said in your post don't make me think you are bipolar.

As for your delusions:
Quote:
That I was going to win the 6/49 and live in a Hotel at Piccadilly Circus or Trafalgar Square
That I was going to win the 6/49 and become a Flower Child, because I would feel at peace for once
That I'm going to win the 6/49 and live in a three-story Dream style Home in the Countryside
That I'm going to win at least $4,000,000 and live in a Routemaster beside Hyde Park, in London

Do you really believe that these things are going to happen? Or are they things you have been thinking about a lot? It's very common in autism to keep thinking about certain things, often to the point of obsession. If you recognise that these things are delusions, and not reality, they are probably not delusions.

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That things haven't really changed between my parents and I since 1985, when I was Ten

I don't know much about your relationship with your parents, but it's quite possible that this is actually true.

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That there are registered Lurkers who visit the more private Forums to get their kicks, who aren't on the Spectrum

Again, this may well be true. Some people have so little in their lives that the only pleasure they can get is at other people's expense. This is what trolls are, who post things deliberately to wind people. I expect there are people who lurk for the same reason.

If you are worried about your thoughts, the best person to speak to your doctor. If these things are getting out of control and causing you distress, they can be treated.


The thoughts about London seem realistic, due to my Cockneyfied Personality Type. The thoughts about the Hippie lifestyle and the idea about living in a Country Home are a little uncharacteristic of my Personality. I'm too much into Classic London and her Buses to carry through on the Hippie ideal. It's also a fact that I don't do well in the Country. I've had a friend who lived in the Countryside, and I'd have a terrible Sleep, every time I've spent the night at her house.



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06 Sep 2006, 11:29 pm

cockneyrebel, I also believe some pretty bizarre stuff. I just wanted you to know you're now alone in that.