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16 Aug 2011, 5:02 pm

I have been plueged by this problem of the police watching me and harassing me. I didn't know why at first. I thought that it was because I had dojinshi porn on my computer or other porn before hand. then I was brought to the hospital by my mother and got some pills. I have come to find out that those pills where antiandrogens and I didn't quite understand why I for such pittance of charges was getting my balls shriveled. I took the original pills all the way through thanks to being coqsed into it by the things they where saying outside my apartment. when I got this anti depressant from my psychologist it had the strangest of side effects including the sensation of getting kicked in the balls and one of my nuts pulling closer to my body. I couldent handle it anymore. I just wanted them to tell me why they where doing it. I stopped the anti depressant and then they started to say outside my apartment that I was getting a 80 years in prison. I got really scared I wanted to restart the medication but I didn't know if it was too late to restart it or not. I talked to my psycologest and told him about it and he said that I shouldent take the medication any more and sense he was the one that gaxe it to me I thought that it was them saying it to me. I mean whouldent it be him that was supposed to get me to take it like I was sopposed to? so if he said that I didnt need to take it anymore than as the official representetive of the people watching me that should have been the end of it shouldent it?



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16 Aug 2011, 5:22 pm

You may have schizophrenia.


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16 Aug 2011, 5:53 pm

FireMinstrel wrote:
You may have schizophrenia.

or perhaps paranoid personality disorder. I'd discuss it with your doctor.



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16 Aug 2011, 6:52 pm

why do you say that?



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16 Aug 2011, 7:06 pm

HelloMeD,

Nobody here is qualified to make such a diagnosis as "paranoia" or "schizophrenia", so there isn't any need for concern when they use those words.

However, you would be better off taking any concerns you may have to your physician or psychologist, as they are the only ones qualified to tell you what you need to know.

Not having any medical credentials myself, I have no idea if this should be the end of it or not.

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16 Aug 2011, 7:28 pm

why is it that somthing plausible happens and nobody beleves in it. this is happening. I want true justice to happen. I made a mistake and they are crucifying me. I know everybody hates the mistake I made. I feel that they should have told me in the first place what was going on and not treat me poorly. I would have taken the pill I would have know that the reason they did that wass and would ahave complyed

Edit: I feel sorry for my mistakes I just feel I am at a point where I need them to know what they wont listen too. I feel that no one will listen. I am not acting like a child I am just saying that I made an honest mistake it the past. I know it had reprecutions and I am sorry. I didnt know that my actions would cause what it did. and I didnt know that it was a crime.



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16 Aug 2011, 8:17 pm

HelloMeD:

When have the police made contact with you? How many times have you talked to them face to face in the last few years?

You were probably given the anti-androgens out of concern that you were starting to get into illegal material and they wanted you to kill your sex drive before you got arrested for it. Unless a sworn law enforcement officer came and issued you a summons to court or [unlikely] a warrant for your arrest, you were not charged with anything and you cannot be convicted of anything without being given your day in court to defend yourself in front of a jury. There are no exceptions to this law.

No law enforcement officer can decide your sentence. No law enforcement officer can find you guilty. Your doctor cannot act as the representative of the police. In fact, in most states there are no more than 4 reasons your doctor can talk to the police without your permission: if you disclose something to them that makes them suspect another person is being abused, if you express an intent to hurt somebody, if you express intent to hurt yourself, or if a judge orders your doctor to submit a copy of your medical files to the court. This last one requires justification by standards in the law for a judge to sign that order.

If you are going to continue to view porn, switch to images of real people over 18. Childish style drawings typical of anime, and depicted as porn can be a slippery legal slope in some places. Also, talk to a psychiatrist about the people talking outside your apartment and your fears and concerns about them. The psychiatrist can probably make it go away or at least make it less of a problem, but there will be pills involved and you will be free to reject them or quit taking them later without fear of getting arrested for that. If you do take them and decide to quit taking them, talk to the psychiatrist first because some can be dangerous to quit suddenly due to medical reasons because your body may react badly to the sudden change. Chances are that you and a psychiatrist can work out some meds you are comfortable taking, though you two may have to try a few different combinations.


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16 Aug 2011, 8:26 pm

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HelloMeD:

When have the police made contact with you? How many times have you talked to them face to face in the last few years?

You were probably given the anti-androgens out of concern that you were starting to get into illegal material and they wanted you to kill your sex drive before you got arrested for it. Unless a sworn law enforcement officer came and issued you a summons to court or [unlikely] a warrant for your arrest, you were not charged with anything and you cannot be convicted of anything without being given your day in court to defend yourself in front of a jury. There are no exceptions to this law.

No law enforcement officer can decide your sentence. No law enforcement officer can find you guilty. Your doctor cannot act as the representative of the police. In fact, in most states there are no more than 4 reasons your doctor can talk to the police without your permission: if you disclose something to them that makes them suspect another person is being abused, if you express an intent to hurt somebody, if you express intent to hurt yourself, or if a judge orders your doctor to submit a copy of your medical files to the court. This last one requires justification by standards in the law for a judge to sign that order.

If you are going to continue to view porn, switch to images of real people over 18. Childish style drawings typical of anime, and depicted as porn can be a slippery legal slope in some places. Also, talk to a psychiatrist about the people talking outside your apartment and your fears and concerns about them. The psychiatrist can probably make it go away or at least make it less of a problem, but there will be pills involved and you will be free to reject them or quit taking them later without fear of getting arrested for that. If you do take them and decide to quit taking them, talk to the psychiatrist first because some can be dangerous to quit suddenly due to medical reasons because your body may react badly to the sudden change. Chances are that you and a psychiatrist can work out some meds you are comfortable taking, though you two may have to try a few different combinations.


thank you for responding. I dont know what to do . All I needed was for them to tell me why they where giving me the drug. I thought it was for somthing that would only get you a year in jail at best for and that wasnt the case aperently. I just needed to know but they keep my mother lying to me and they wont budge telling me anything so what was I going to do? I had stopped taking the second meds because they hurt and made me sick(it took a few days before it really started to hurt)but hung in there for I think more than a week maby two weeks. Why couldent they just talk to me? I am not so bad an autistic that I need them to go around and lie to me about it. They just needed to tell me the truth. I needed to make an informed decision. If I knew what they where after in the beginning and knew that It wasnt too late to take the pill I would have taken the pill but they wouldent talk to me at all. so I pleaded my case time and time again on my computer to try and try banging my head against a wall practically to get them to talk to me and tell me what I needed to know. and I read that they are not supposed to give you anti androgens unless they tell you the side effects and get your signed permission.



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17 Aug 2011, 12:06 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You are not likely to get any of this sorted out without the help of a psychiatrist.


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17 Aug 2011, 6:04 pm

this isnt a joke it is really happening. Im not kidding. I am not crazy. I know that they are watching me. I know they gave me antiandrogens. I know it. there is nothing that a psychologist can do.



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17 Aug 2011, 6:17 pm

If by any chance you are being stalked by police...I have known people who are in that situation for real...the most important thing you can do is DONT react to them. Dont freakout because that feeds the stalkers. Ignore them and document date and time and what happened, so you have a record if something does go down. Learn your miranda rights...and if you have an arrest that violates your miranda rights, then the court has to let you go.

Other than that, talk to your psychiatrist because trauma can cause chemical changes in your brain and make it harder to cope with a situation.

There is a saying in the anti-stalking world which is
dont go on the dance floor, soon your stalkers will be dancing by themselves.
Meaning ignore them and they will get bored with you. Even if it esclates, hold your ground and ignore them and document date/time and what happened by whom.

You also need to explore all options and if it is some type of halucination...you need to rule that out too by taking psychotropics...there are many others without such dire side effects, so schedule and appointment with your psychiatrist and tell him/her what happened with the last drug and try a different one.
Dont go on zyprexia...it will cause you gain alot of weight and doesnt really work, risperal works better but has the potential to cause alot of weight gain.

I dont know much about the others.
But stopping your psychotropics aruptly can cause halucinations and other things that too.

If you are still having these events after medication for more than a month ...then just do what I said above about ignore and document.

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17 Aug 2011, 6:46 pm

jojobean wrote:
If by any chance you are being stalked by police...I have known people who are in that situation for real...the most important thing you can do is DONT react to them. Dont freakout because that feeds the stalkers. Ignore them and document date and time and what happened, so you have a record if something does go down. Learn your miranda rights...and if you have an arrest that violates your miranda rights, then the court has to let you go.

Other than that, talk to your psychiatrist because trauma can cause chemical changes in your brain and make it harder to cope with a situation.

There is a saying in the anti-stalking world which is
dont go on the dance floor, soon your stalkers will be dancing by themselves.
Meaning ignore them and they will get bored with you. Even if it esclates, hold your ground and ignore them and document date/time and what happened by whom.

You also need to explore all options and if it is some type of halucination...you need to rule that out too by taking psychotropics...there are many others without such dire side effects, so schedule and appointment with your psychiatrist and tell him/her what happened with the last drug and try a different one.
Dont go on zyprexia...it will cause you gain alot of weight and doesnt really work, risperal works better but has the potential to cause alot of weight gain.

I dont know much about the others.
But stopping your psychotropics aruptly can cause halucinations and other things that too.

If you are still having these events after medication for more than a month ...then just do what I said above about ignore and document.

Jojo


I don't really know how to respond. Ignoring them doesn't work. for the first month I ignored the tendency for them to stomp in the next apartment when I opened my eyes, and the tendency to stomp whenever I had an erection. that didn't stop when I ignored them. there have been so many things that they have done that I cannot remember them all. I know that it is real. I wish I could have talked to the prosicuter before things got bad and found out what they where after me for so That I would have gone through with the pill. I just didn't realize what they where after me for cause It didn't even click that I had committed a crime other than porn.



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18 Aug 2011, 9:40 am

is anybody out there please. I feel all alone in this I need your advice



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18 Aug 2011, 2:52 pm

Check out the the book "cause stalking" by David Lawson

It will make sense of all this...explains it perfectly. However, you need to continue to ignore them. It is hard, but it is the only way.

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18 Aug 2011, 3:22 pm

May want to consider talking to a legal consultant, if it were happening to me the first thing i'd try to get is proof.

Possibly get a video camera, possibly write a letter to your congressman or to a major political figure.

Maybe a recording device if anything suspicious is said.

Even if they were to bust you for porn? Sentences to run concurrent? Probably wouldn't even be too bad. I'd try to get the drop on them first and police doing anything illegal such as harassing or colluding with your doctor, seems likes the greater of two evils.

If you have any problems that can be solved with medicine, please keep seeing a health care professional.

Your psychologist offered you the chance to be off your pills, because he probably is acting in what he thinks your best interests are.



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19 Aug 2011, 4:56 pm

I dont know for certain but I think they are going to arrest me next week. I pray that isnt the case.