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subatai_baadur
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07 Sep 2006, 3:42 pm

It would appear that my desire to leave humanity has reached its peak again. The fantasies about leaving society forever are coming back, and they're strong as ever. I've also resumed some of the crime fantasies, but not quite as much. This is starting to irritate me. My mind refuses to let go of this notion that I could leave society and mob mentality forever, despite this being nearly impossible. Does anyone else get these strange ideas, and if so, how on earth am I supposed to get rid of them. For now they are harmless, but eventually they're going to get really drastic and strong.


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07 Sep 2006, 4:18 pm

I get 'em. I presume they're relatively normal for people with Asperger's.


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07 Sep 2006, 4:58 pm

"It is hard for a pure and thoughtful man to live in a state of rapture at the spectacle afforded him by his fellow-creatures" Matthew Arnold

"Mankind are a herd of knaves and fools. It is necessary to join the crowd, or get out of their way, in order not to be trampled to death by them" Willam Hazlitt.



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07 Sep 2006, 5:17 pm

I assume that there is always the basic Holden Caufield-like desire to go and do such a thing, but the odd thing is that I'm starting to feel that it is attainable. I would just need money, and I have no qualms about robbery, so I have to wonder if maybe I could. Just a matter of finding a piece of property and getting a decent house built on it, then some food and maybe oil/gas for electricity if I didn't want solar or wind power. All in all, we're talking a sizable initial investment(500,000 dollars would be a low estimate), plus maybe 25,000 for food and water, and another 15,000 for electricity(northern New York, heating costs would be extravagant). Throw in costs of the little things(I'll take an estimate of 30,000 initial and maybe 5,000 annual. I'm trying to live with a bit of style here), and I'd say I could live for a good while on 1.5 million. It would be quite a bit of work, but I just have to wonder if it's possible.


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07 Sep 2006, 7:35 pm

Ssometimes when I get in my car I have a desire to head for the highway and just keep going,
Just want to go/get away and feel like I want to just drive and drive and drive, without noing where.

But, haven't felt like that for a while.


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07 Sep 2006, 9:04 pm

I have had these thoughts also but am not as picky about such things as electricity and such. Upstate NY has many areas that are sparcly populated getting wood for fuel is just your labor you don't even need much more tha a small house/cabin. There are many parts of the contry were it would be even easier.
As far as just driving away I used to think of that when I had a company van. I'd leave after getting check on Thursday call in Friday Monday I could have been anywhere. Now that I have kids and such these thoughts are not as commen as they used to be. I think it could be done and done a lot cheaper and easier than you think.


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07 Sep 2006, 9:52 pm

When I was about 14, I started to realize that I was not fit to live in normal society. (This was several years before I had heard of Asperger's, so I had no idea there were other people out there like me.) I did, however, realize that there was something wrong with me, although I can't remember what my diagnosis was. I half-hoped that someone would just come along, declare me crazy, and lock me in a mental institution, so that I could spend the rest of my days being cared for in a comfy padded cell.

Fortunately, at the time, I did not have the balls to do something drastic like robbing a bank or killing someone, although I did want to draw attention to my perceived plight. Eventually, though, I have managed to find my own place within society. It has been a long struggle, though, and every day is a battle to maintain my own happiness without giving up on society.



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07 Sep 2006, 11:00 pm

LOL...I used to daydream about this alot when I was a teenager, probably the only thing that got me though school some days...I planned my escape from society countless times when I became older even. Now that I have my son the thoughts are still there somedays... although I know it's not possible.

My dreams were somewhat like parts...secluded cabin in the woods somewhere far enough away where I couldn't be found for a good long time...

Now if money wasn't an object though...a nice big underground military bunker in the mountains somewhere... :wink:

Driving.... I used to just say "road trip" quite a bit when life got a bit too much....always found some interesting things on those trips...


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07 Sep 2006, 11:07 pm

I started planning my escape in the tenth grade. The cabin in the woods I would build myself, solar power, farming, biodiesel generator, the whole deal. Somehow, after ten years of planning, forgetting about it, working toward it, then doing other things, I'm now a slumlord in a small southern university town and I think this works better for my taste and was much more affordable. Supposing fifty percent occupancy for my rental units, I can afford, worst case scenario, to not work for about a decade. I quit my last job a month ago but perhaps will find something suitable to help out the cash flow situation before too long.