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23 Aug 2006, 2:17 pm

I'm trying to recover from anorexia, but still continue with exercise, because I cannot give up the exercise. I'm eating 2,400kcal a day, but I'm not gaining weight. I'm 1.625m and I weigh 39.5kg (5ft4in and 87lb). Help?


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23 Aug 2006, 3:51 pm

when i went "away" i weighed about 156 pounds, when i got back i weighed 138. im male, so thats a little thin for my height of 6'1. ive gained about 2 pounds and now weigh 140. ive found that i would rather be thin than fat. i don't think im anorexic or anything just someone who enjoys looking good. :D



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23 Aug 2006, 4:37 pm

the most helpful thing for me was to always eat meals in a calm, quiet place away from any sources of stress and annoyance. for me that meant having my meals in my room, away from the dinner table... but for some reason mum wouldn't let me and insisted for ages on us all having a family meal together just because that was 'normal' - there was always a bad atmosphere, the radio was on in the background blaring out the news which got me even more stressed, the dog would be yapping for food, it was sensory hell :cry: i couldn't eat my food properly and constantly had upset stomachs with the stress. as soon as i did things my way and had my meals by myself, i put weight on! :?



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23 Aug 2006, 5:29 pm

Steelmaiden....I dont know how long you have been in recovery, but it does take time....anarexia can effect your matabilism,brain chemistry,hormones and many other health issues...My limited understanding of it is that it is in part about "control" for individuals who often feel (some correctly),that they do not have alot of control over things and people in their environment..Some elements are a form of 'self-abuse"...(similiar to cutting/drug abuse/sexual promiscuity)based on a feeling of not being "OK" and worthy of punishment(or a desire to punish others but a strong morality that it is wrong to hurt others)...there can also be a problem with "body dysmorphic disorder"that what you see in the mirror does not accuratly "reflect" your true image...ie...most people would see your bones but you see a blown up body...(I have problems with this regaurding my face and body)...

I guess, my point is that the cause is often complex and there for difficult to change behavior....it sounds like you are on the road to recovery, to me.I could never give up the exercise...it is healthy and reduces stress and releases endorphins...but I dont know how intrussive your exercise is to your daily life....the basis of an "addiction" is that it effects our dailey life negatively...is this true for you (besides the weight issue?)Does it interfer with relationships,homework or job...are you physically harming your body with repetitive motions(problem with tendons and joints as you age)?

If not harmful to you I wouldnt stop the excercise.I would suggest you have your thyroid checked to make sure it isnt overactive(hyper-thyroid)if that is ruled out...maybe you can try to "bulk-up" the way many athletes do....you maynot be getting enough carbs or protein if you are exercising alot..."normal calories for basically sendentary society is NOT enough for athlets...there are also many protein shakes and such for athlets(I dont know much about these)but they might be helpful....ruling out a physical problem with your matabilism and an unconcious desire "Not to regain the weight"...the only other thing I can think of is more healthy callories....

Good luck...(have you tried online support groups?I am sure they would know more about this then me)


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27 Aug 2006, 1:11 pm

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when i went "away" i weighed about 156 pounds, when i got back i weighed 138. im male, so thats a little thin for my height of 6'1. ive gained about 2 pounds and now weigh 140. ive found that i would rather be thin than fat. i don't think im anorexic or anything just someone who enjoys looking good. :D


I think I look good, but a BMI of around 15 tells me that I am physically not healthy. My doctor has told me many times that I risk heart conduction problems and osteoporosis to name only a couple.


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27 Aug 2006, 1:12 pm

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the most helpful thing for me was to always eat meals in a calm, quiet place away from any sources of stress and annoyance. for me that meant having my meals in my room, away from the dinner table... but for some reason mum wouldn't let me and insisted for ages on us all having a family meal together just because that was 'normal' - there was always a bad atmosphere, the radio was on in the background blaring out the news which got me even more stressed, the dog would be yapping for food, it was sensory hell :cry: i couldn't eat my food properly and constantly had upset stomachs with the stress. as soon as i did things my way and had my meals by myself, i put weight on! :?


You're right! I had dinner by myself today and did not have my Mother constantly heckling me to eat faster (I eat very slowly), and I did not feel bloated (something that often happens to me and causes me to eat less because I am scared of my waistline increasing) or have indigestion afterwards! I wear earplugs now and I have been feeling calmer.


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27 Aug 2006, 1:20 pm

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Steelmaiden....I dont know how long you have been in recovery, but it does take time....anarexia can effect your matabilism,brain chemistry,hormones and many other health issues...My limited understanding of it is that it is in part about "control" for individuals who often feel (some correctly),that they do not have alot of control over things and people in their environment..Some elements are a form of 'self-abuse"...(similiar to cutting/drug abuse/sexual promiscuity)based on a feeling of not being "OK" and worthy of punishment(or a desire to punish others but a strong morality that it is wrong to hurt others)...there can also be a problem with "body dysmorphic disorder"that what you see in the mirror does not accuratly "reflect" your true image...ie...most people would see your bones but you see a blown up body...(I have problems with this regaurding my face and body)...

I guess, my point is that the cause is often complex and there for difficult to change behavior....it sounds like you are on the road to recovery, to me.I could never give up the exercise...it is healthy and reduces stress and releases endorphins...but I dont know how intrussive your exercise is to your daily life....the basis of an "addiction" is that it effects our dailey life negatively...is this true for you (besides the weight issue?)Does it interfer with relationships,homework or job...are you physically harming your body with repetitive motions(problem with tendons and joints as you age)?

If not harmful to you I wouldnt stop the excercise.I would suggest you have your thyroid checked to make sure it isnt overactive(hyper-thyroid)if that is ruled out...maybe you can try to "bulk-up" the way many athletes do....you maynot be getting enough carbs or protein if you are exercising alot..."normal calories for basically sendentary society is NOT enough for athlets...there are also many protein shakes and such for athlets(I dont know much about these)but they might be helpful....ruling out a physical problem with your matabilism and an unconcious desire "Not to regain the weight"...the only other thing I can think of is more healthy callories....

Good luck...(have you tried online support groups?I am sure they would know more about this then me)


Excellent advice! I will tell you that I recently replaced my scales (the ones that I had were very old) and I actually weigh 41kg, which gives me a BMI of 15.6. My goal weight is 42kg for the short term, so I am doing well. I have concluded that I have a slightly overactive thyroid (I have a good appetite) as I have some of the symptoms of hyperthyroidism (I read a lot of medicine and anatomy), but not all, such as the warm, sweaty skin.

I am on the road to recovery well now, as I am gaining weight (finally!) and I am getting much stronger (I picked up a 5kg box and it felt like lifting nothing to me). I can also run for longer distances.

What I don't like is the unpredictability of meal times and meals during the holidays. I cannot predict how many calories I will consume so I find it difficult to spread it out during the day, and end up eating more in the evenings.


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27 Aug 2006, 2:12 pm

I met someone with anorexia, and come to find out she seemed very nice. She was very lenient as well.

Good luck with you!


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27 Aug 2006, 2:21 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
I met someone with anorexia, and come to find out she seemed very nice. She was very lenient as well.

Good luck with you!


I've noticed that people with anorexia are very kind and can be very creative. However the anorexia really pulls them down.


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27 Aug 2006, 2:23 pm

Which is unfortunate


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31 Aug 2006, 3:38 am

*Eats*


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31 Aug 2006, 5:32 am

I was just on the verge of developing anorexia. I haven't had much of an Appetite, lately. Than I've decided that if I want to be able to live, in order to be able to go to London and ride the very last of the Routemasters, one day that I'd better keep alive by continuing to eat decent meals. My case wouldn't have been the typical "Oh no! I'm fat!" case. It would have been more of a, "What's the use of living if I can't have a Dream?" case. However, I do admit that I'm not the skinniest Young Woman in North America. I've eased myself out of my Black Mood, last night, after a long day of dark thoughts.



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31 Aug 2006, 7:57 am

Are you trying to satirize people with anorexia?


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31 Aug 2006, 10:47 am

larsenjw92286 wrote:
Are you trying to satirize people with anorexia?


Na! I just haven't felt like eating, lately. :|



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31 Aug 2006, 10:48 am

No, I was addressing someone else.


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31 Aug 2006, 10:55 am

larsenjw92286 wrote:
No, I was addressing someone else.


Darn! I always do that. (Slapping myself on my knee.) Sorry. :? :lol: