Should I just end it now?

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14 Oct 2011, 8:54 pm

Today is just one of those days when it really hits. The loneliness, despair, misery, depression, and frustration just get to be a bit much. I might need to stop to coming to this site so much. A few posts I read today mad me so mad and frustrated that I actually felt like hurting someone. That certainly doesn't help.

I've been feeling this way for the past few years, and lately it's starting to wear on me. It's like I'm running out of reasons to keep living.

I'm alone, poor, and have nothing going for me. I might be homeless in a few year when my grandma croaks. (it's inevitable)

I'm butt ugly, slow and stupid, a 9th grade sped drop out, boring, uninteresting, irritating and annoying. I have no friends and have never dated, and no girl will probably ever be interested in me. I'm also a 25 year old hermit that barely knows how to bathe and take care of himself. My only interests are video games, anime, porn, and certain shows on tv.

My future is one that is bleak, and has no hope or chance for happiness or love. Why shouldn't I just off myself now and save myself from more pain and misery in the future?



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14 Oct 2011, 9:16 pm

Before you make a decision, write down a list of everyone who would be both sorry to see you go, and happy to see you go. After you do that, contact each of them and see what they have to say. I never make an important decision without consulting as many stakeholders as possible, as it tends to preserve harmony and order in the world. I like an orderly world. Don't you?



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14 Oct 2011, 10:25 pm

I say you definitely should not for the reasons I've laid out before. I understand that you feel very bad now and I want you to not suffer any longer and you can do that AND continue living. I actually physically drew up a chart putting all of the reasons you believe you have to end your life into categories by why they are not reasons to end your life and it leaves 0 reasons to end it. I know you feel bad and I didn't want to seem flippant by posting it but I can if you have any interest in seeing it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a fellow person suffering and believing they are doomed when I can see they are not. And it does not take any kind of special vision to see it, just an outside perspective. It is hard when you are mired in your own difficult circumstances, most debilitating of all depression, to see that they are ones that you can get out of and be happy.

I really think you need to talk to mental health professionals about ways to stop feeling like this.

If you feel really bad and like you might harm yourself please call 911.



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15 Oct 2011, 12:07 am

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I say you definitely should not for the reasons I've laid out before. I understand that you feel very bad now and I want you to not suffer any longer and you can do that AND continue living. I actually physically drew up a chart putting all of the reasons you believe you have to end your life into categories by why they are not reasons to end your life and it leaves 0 reasons to end it. I know you feel bad and I didn't want to seem flippant by posting it but I can if you have any interest in seeing it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a fellow person suffering and believing they are doomed when I can see they are not. And it does not take any kind of special vision to see it, just an outside perspective. It is hard when you are mired in your own difficult circumstances, most debilitating of all depression, to see that they are ones that you can get out of and be happy.

I really think you need to talk to mental health professionals about ways to stop feeling like this.

If you feel really bad and like you might harm yourself please call 911.


It hurts, a lot. It's especially hard when people IRL, on forums (this one included) and tv shows are having fun with friends, dating, and being successful in life, while I'm in my situation.

I've always felt like I'm missing out on life or being left out of something. It's like I'm trapped in box/cage/jail cell made of misery, despair, depression and loneliness. It feels like I'm by myself and there's no way out.

I just really, really want to stop feeling this way. In my future, I'll still have the same problems, feelings, and I'll probably have worse living arrangements so there's really no end in sight. Why continue living when there's no hope for any kind of change.

Suicide seems reasonable at this point.



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15 Oct 2011, 12:12 am

BTW Purchase, I appreciate your advice, although I don't how much help it'll be at this point.

Thanks anyway.

You're too nice, nice to the point of being kinda creepy. :lol:



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15 Oct 2011, 12:52 am

purchase wrote:
I say you definitely should not for the reasons I've laid out before. I understand that you feel very bad now and I want you to not suffer any longer and you can do that AND continue living. I actually physically drew up a chart putting all of the reasons you believe you have to end your life into categories by why they are not reasons to end your life and it leaves 0 reasons to end it. I know you feel bad and I didn't want to seem flippant by posting it but I can if you have any interest in seeing it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a fellow person suffering and believing they are doomed when I can see they are not. And it does not take any kind of special vision to see it, just an outside perspective. It is hard when you are mired in your own difficult circumstances, most debilitating of all depression, to see that they are ones that you can get out of and be happy.

I really think you need to talk to mental health professionals about ways to stop feeling like this.

If you feel really bad and like you might harm yourself please call 911.

MR20 wrote:
BTW Purchase, I appreciate your advice, although I don't how much help it'll be at this point.

Thanks anyway.

You're too nice, nice to the point of being kinda creepy. :lol:

Thank you purchase ...



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15 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

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Before you make a decision, write down a list of everyone who would be both sorry to see you go, and happy to see you go. After you do that, contact each of them and see what they have to say. I never make an important decision without consulting as many stakeholders as possible, as it tends to preserve harmony and order in the world. I like an orderly world. Don't you?


Idk Maybe my grandma and my sister, who's schizo. I don't know about anyone else. It may not matter about my sister because she may be in a mental home in a few years. I won't be to take care of her after my grandma dies, (driving her to the doctor, paying for her medicine, looking out for her well being, etc) so this'll probably be the best thing for her.

She won't really need me.



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15 Oct 2011, 1:43 pm

Two things keep me from committing suicide:

1) I will botch the attempt and become even less functional and even more dependent on others.

2) The possibility of reincarnation - I could come back even worse off.

Oh, and there's always the possibility that things will get better (I have a hard time believing this one, but you never know.)

I agree with the above posters - tell your doctor that you are having these feelings. Medications can help.



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15 Oct 2011, 2:13 pm

Sometimes people in care homes aren't treated so well, and having a relative visit every now and keep an eye on things (and keep the staff "on thier toes") can help to prevent that. So, your sister might need your help in the future.



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16 Oct 2011, 9:29 pm

MR20 wrote:
lotuspuppy wrote:
Before you make a decision, write down a list of everyone who would be both sorry to see you go, and happy to see you go. After you do that, contact each of them and see what they have to say. I never make an important decision without consulting as many stakeholders as possible, as it tends to preserve harmony and order in the world. I like an orderly world. Don't you?


Idk Maybe my grandma and my sister, who's schizo. I don't know about anyone else. It may not matter about my sister because she may be in a mental home in a few years. I won't be to take care of her after my grandma dies, (driving her to the doctor, paying for her medicine, looking out for her well being, etc) so this'll probably be the best thing for her.

She won't really need me.


Well, you wouldn't know whom to talk to unless you sit down and write the list. Let me give you an example from my own life. I am trying to change jobs, and asked my mentor for advice. She said that she wanted me to write down a list of everyone I ever interacted with, and reach out to them. Sure enough, it was way more people than I thought.

Just remember that life is way more interconnected than any one of us thinks. Everyone is a stakeholder in each other.



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17 Oct 2011, 12:59 am

MR20 wrote:
My future is one that is bleak, and has no hope or chance for happiness or love. Why shouldn't I just off myself now and save myself from more pain and misery in the future?


For the record, I'm not picking on you.

Why is it that the first time you try to make a command decision in your live, it is to consider committing suicide? You have tried nothing yet to make things better so you have no idea what your prospects for life are like. Call 911 or at least call the suicide hotline. Yes, you might get picked up and taken to the hospital if you call 911, but it's not nearly as bad as it sounds. The psychiatric hospitals on TV and in the movies are either exaggerated portrayals of outdated facilities or totally fictitious (ex. "Batman"). There is counseling available as well as help finding services and new living arrangements if you will try contacting someone for help.


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17 Oct 2011, 1:25 am

Just say no to suicide.



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17 Oct 2011, 3:38 am

MR20 wrote:
My future is one that is bleak, and has no hope or chance for happiness or love. Why shouldn't I just off myself now and save myself from more pain and misery in the future?


I have felt this way too in the past, and have felt extremely suicidal. The thing is, when you are in that place it is very hard to have any hope, to see anything other than negativity and blackness.

Things can change though. With time, and with luck, and with effort, things can improve.
I'm pretty sure people have given you lots of useful advice on wp. Maybe you just can't see that it could be of use because you are in such a dark place.

When you are in such darkness medication and therapy seem to be a useful starting point. Medication has saved my life in the past, and helped give me enough strength to work my way out of the pain. I hope you can find your way out of your own pain.

Life is full of surprises, you don't know what will happen to you in the future. Try to find happiness wherever you can.



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17 Oct 2011, 10:59 am

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I say you definitely should not for the reasons I've laid out before. I understand that you feel very bad now and I want you to not suffer any longer and you can do that AND continue living. I actually physically drew up a chart putting all of the reasons you believe you have to end your life into categories by why they are not reasons to end your life and it leaves 0 reasons to end it. I know you feel bad and I didn't want to seem flippant by posting it but I can if you have any interest in seeing it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a fellow person suffering and believing they are doomed when I can see they are not. And it does not take any kind of special vision to see it, just an outside perspective. It is hard when you are mired in your own difficult circumstances, most debilitating of all depression, to see that they are ones that you can get out of and be happy.

I really think you need to talk to mental health professionals about ways to stop feeling like this.

If you feel really bad and like you might harm yourself please call 911.


Why do you keep pretending to care about anyone but yourself? Do you get off on this s**t?



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17 Oct 2011, 11:13 am

^ believe it or not, some people actually do care about other people when they're feeling suicidal.


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17 Oct 2011, 11:24 am

SadAspy wrote:
purchase wrote:
I say you definitely should not for the reasons I've laid out before. I understand that you feel very bad now and I want you to not suffer any longer and you can do that AND continue living. I actually physically drew up a chart putting all of the reasons you believe you have to end your life into categories by why they are not reasons to end your life and it leaves 0 reasons to end it. I know you feel bad and I didn't want to seem flippant by posting it but I can if you have any interest in seeing it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a fellow person suffering and believing they are doomed when I can see they are not. And it does not take any kind of special vision to see it, just an outside perspective. It is hard when you are mired in your own difficult circumstances, most debilitating of all depression, to see that they are ones that you can get out of and be happy.

I really think you need to talk to mental health professionals about ways to stop feeling like this.

If you feel really bad and like you might harm yourself please call 911.


Why do you keep pretending to care about anyone but yourself? Do you get off on this sh**?


Wow. Just because you hate people doesn't mean everyone does.
Purchase is one of the loveliest people around here despite all she's been through.
You'd do well to be more like her.
Also, derailing a thread in the haven with your hate isn't on.



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