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CloudLayer
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30 Mar 2012, 1:28 am

I want to die. I hate people. I hate people. I hate people. I'm through with life on earth as a person. I'm just afraid to kill myself cause I'm pretty sure it hurts.



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30 Mar 2012, 1:36 am

You have value. Every person in the world has value.


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30 Mar 2012, 1:46 am

CloudLayer wrote:
I want to die. I hate people. I hate people. I hate people. I'm through with life on earth as a person. I'm just afraid to kill myself cause I'm pretty sure it hurts.


Please don't do it. I know it must be peaty dark place for you right now, I've been there. But it can be better. You need professional help, see a doctor, therapist, anyone that can help you. Live.



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30 Mar 2012, 1:51 am

My value is to get used and moved on from.

Human beings are cold selfish creatures, they will take you for all you are worth. I don't want to have value I want to be priceless. Human beings treat each other like commodities. They are very cruel.



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30 Mar 2012, 1:59 am

kojot wrote:
CloudLayer wrote:
I want to die. I hate people. I hate people. I hate people. I'm through with life on earth as a person. I'm just afraid to kill myself cause I'm pretty sure it hurts.


Please don't do it. I know it must be peaty dark place for you right now, I've been there. But it can be better. You need professional help, see a doctor, therapist, anyone that can help you. Live.


I honestly have no reason to live other than I am not up to killing myself. This is not a very pleasant place. People are horribly cruel.



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30 Mar 2012, 2:34 am

May I ask when you began feeling this way and why?



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30 Mar 2012, 2:58 am

CloudLayer wrote:
kojot wrote:
CloudLayer wrote:
I want to die. I hate people. I hate people. I hate people. I'm through with life on earth as a person. I'm just afraid to kill myself cause I'm pretty sure it hurts.


Please don't do it. I know it must be peaty dark place for you right now, I've been there. But it can be better. You need professional help, see a doctor, therapist, anyone that can help you. Live.


I honestly have no reason to live other than I am not up to killing myself. This is not a very pleasant place. People are horribly cruel.

I remember that my original motivation to not do it was that it would make life too easy for some people because at the time I was usually the pain in the ass ;P
So I stayed to make them suffer. Since then I managed to make myself a happy person again. And now I know that I was severely depressed at the time.
Please seek professional help. Find a shrink, take pills, go to therapy, live.



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30 Mar 2012, 3:17 am

I once heard that anger is more productive than despair.

If you hate people, it's not yourself that you should be taking it out on.



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30 Mar 2012, 3:55 am

If you've been hurt in a relationship/s I'm sorry for your pain. Not everyone out there is a beast, but there are many wolves in sheeps' clothing. Please hang on.


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30 Mar 2012, 4:11 am

I guarantee that you'll wake in a better place and in a better time, so you're tired of living and you feel like you might give in... Well don't. It's not your time - streetlight manifesto


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30 Mar 2012, 5:36 am

Invader wrote:
I once heard that anger is more productive than despair.

If you hate people, it's not yourself that you should be taking it out on.


8O Whoa! what a dangerous thing to say to a suicidial person!



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30 Mar 2012, 6:45 am

CloudLayer wrote:
I want to die. I hate people. I hate people. I hate people. I'm through with life on earth as a person. I'm just afraid to kill myself cause I'm pretty sure it hurts.


I'm people and I agree with you!
Except I don't believe you.

Your life does not revolve around or involve other people!
You are an Aspy!
And your motivations are knowledge, learning, sharing and believing!

Tell yourself to Fuckoff your yearnings for social inclusions
NT's involve themselves in them for about 5 seconds before they move on to the next one!
I know it's hard at your age to believe this,
but you are not the opinion of your peers

:!: :!: :!:
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30 Mar 2012, 10:07 am

The people who have hurt me the most in my life are Aspies, it has nothing to do with NT exclusion. Not to say all Aspies are "bad" but as it happens this has been the case for me.

I agree that there are many wolves in sheep's clothing. People do not care. Some people are not good. When I say that I don't mean that some people are born bad or good. I mean that they choose to do things that will hurt other people. They knowingly choose to do them! And they don't care enough to stop or apologize. Why do I keep thinking such people are behaving well? Some people just do not care about other people. They seem like they do but when it comes down to it they do not care if they make them hurt very badly. It doesn't hurt them to hurt people. Not enough for them not to do the things. People are horrible. Whether I stick around or not no one will care. People seem to think people who display no conscience and no capacity for empathy are good people. Do they have a conscience and capacity for empathy, hopefully, I don't see why they shouldn't. I know there's a whole empathy/autism debate but I have empathy even though I believe I arrived at it in a way that involved more logic/analysis than most need to use. Some people don't care if they have empathy or not. What are you supposed to do with those people? There's nothing to do with them! They don't see a problem! If they do they are not willing to do whatever emotional/logical steps it takes to see it. Oh Lord. Some people play life like it's just a game and you've reached your aim if you've won, never mind who you had to trample to win. Trampling over other people does not register enough for them to stop. There's nothing to do. There's just nothing to do with these people, you can't make them admit and care if they've hurt you because they will carry no pain, it all comes straight through them to whoever's behind them. If that makes them happy then honestly what do you do.



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30 Mar 2012, 11:02 am

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Whether I stick around or not no one will care.


Every person who replied to your post cares.


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30 Mar 2012, 11:08 am

I am sorry you are hurting so much.
Please stick around.
JonAZ is right - we care.


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30 Mar 2012, 11:09 am

I understand how you feel, and am quite depressed about a lot of stuff you've mentioned in this post. But one thing I try to keep in mind is 'Its no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.' So if anything its good you're not well adjusted to those sick social games people play........But I know it does get overwhelming, and depressing. Unfortunately I cannot convince you not to feel suicidal......but I can tell you I've been there and even attempted, not a very pleasent experience so I don't recommend it.


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