Lost my only friend i can see regularly

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legomyego
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24 Aug 2012, 5:56 pm

No he didn't die or disapear....just flipped out for some reason and now we are no longer friends after over 20 years.
We were hanging out in the garage and he was working on putting together a weight lifitng bench.
I went upstairs to get some cider to drink and he starts flipping out that i went into the kitchen and just started taking food.
After 20 years you'd think a glass of water and a packet of cider additive wouldn't mean anything among friends.
So i told him...if you were in my house (my parents house and in his case his grandma's house) he could have anything in the house he wanted to eat.
But i wasn't even eating but rather fixing something to drink because my throat was dry.
Anyways, his outburst caused me to say fine i'm just gonna leave.
He follows me to my car, keeps saying that i was rude in going into the kitchen and starting the microwave.
And I said I hadn't done anything wrong.
Then i told him he was treating me like I had stole something from him.
He said just leave and never come back because we don't get along.
So i said fine i guess we don't and left.

Now im down to my brother and a few friends scattered across the US that I rarely talk to.
My brother being the only one i can talk to on a regular basis if I'd like to.

Anyways...just wierd to lose my friend randomly....

Feel lonely but also maybe thinking he wasn't a good friend so this could be a good thing.

Thinking of going fishing...



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24 Aug 2012, 6:33 pm

You did steal. Even if you know someone, you can't take another persons' stuff without asking. That is theft.



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24 Aug 2012, 6:45 pm

zxy8 wrote:
You did steal. Even if you know someone, you can't take another persons' stuff without asking. That is theft.

well then i guess by that logic he has stolen water many times ><

Also the cider was his grandma's and she has said i can have it many times. Her house, not his i would prefer to follow the owners rules rather than someone who lives there rent free despite having a full time job.

So no i didn't steal....it wasn't his "stuff" (though i wouldn't call food stuff, much less something to drink) it was his grandma's and she had given me past and future ok to drink water and cider.



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24 Aug 2012, 6:47 pm

legomyego wrote:
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You did steal. Even if you know someone, you can't take another persons' stuff without asking. That is theft.

well then i guess by that logic he has stolen water many times ><

Also the cider was his grandma's and she has said i can have it many times. Her house, not his i would prefer to follow the owners rules rather than someone who lives there rent free despite having a full time job.

So no i didn't steal....it wasn't his "stuff" (though i wouldn't call food stuff, much less something to drink) it was his grandma's and she had given me past and future ok to drink water and cider.


You still need to ask, otherwise its' theft.



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24 Aug 2012, 6:55 pm

Ok the zxy8 has spoken...i'm a thief.

Maybe he should have called the police =/...



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24 Aug 2012, 6:58 pm

legomyego wrote:
Ok the zxy8 has spoken...i'm a thief.

Maybe he should have called the police =/...


Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean you can act immature and go psycho.



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24 Aug 2012, 7:37 pm

zxy8 wrote:
legomyego wrote:
Ok the zxy8 has spoken...i'm a thief.

Maybe he should have called the police =/...


Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean you can act immature and go psycho.


Yes i went totally "psycho" go bug someone else.



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24 Aug 2012, 7:41 pm

legomyego wrote:
zxy8 wrote:
legomyego wrote:
Ok the zxy8 has spoken...i'm a thief.

Maybe he should have called the police =/...


Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean you can act immature and go psycho.


Yes i went totally "psycho" go bug someone else.


You did go psycho by the words you said to me.



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24 Aug 2012, 8:33 pm

legomyego wrote:
Yes i went totally "psycho" go bug someone else.

Try not to take it personally, he's trolling in my thread too. He's displaying the same rigid thinking here that he is in mine - you must comply with his way of thinking because there is no other. Disagreement will be punished.

If your friend is willing to end 20 years of friendship over a lousy packet of cider, he's not a good friend. (It's always good manners to ask for something first, but friends that close should have more leniency when minor disagreements come up. Another fine example of rigid thinking.)

I hope he accepts an apology and/or a peace gesture?



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24 Aug 2012, 8:35 pm

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Yes i went totally "psycho" go bug someone else.

Try not to take it personally, he's trolling in my thread too. He's displaying the same rigid thinking here that he is in mine - you must comply with his way of thinking because there is no other. Disagreement will be punished.

If your friend is willing to end 20 years of friendship over a lousy packet of cider, he's not a good friend. (It's always good manners to ask for something first, but friends that close should have more leniency when minor disagreements come up. Another fine example of rigid thinking.)

I hope he accepts an apology and/or a peace gesture?


I am not trolling in that thread. If you are late for work, you should be fired. Just because you don't agree with my view, you call it trolling? Please, be mature about it, really.



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24 Aug 2012, 8:37 pm

zxy8 wrote:
I am not trolling in that thread. If you are late for work, you should be fired. Just because you don't agree with my view, you call it trolling? Please, be mature about it, really.

Because you're not willing to discuss things, only rigidly criticize others for not doing things the same as you. You're not only trolling me, you're also trolling this OP. That's hardly "mature" of you.



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24 Aug 2012, 8:39 pm

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zxy8 wrote:
I am not trolling in that thread. If you are late for work, you should be fired. Just because you don't agree with my view, you call it trolling? Please, be mature about it, really.

Because you're not willing to discuss things, only rigidly criticize others for not doing things the same as you. You're not only trolling me, you're also trolling this OP. That's hardly "mature" of you.


I did discuss things. Don't be late for work, and don't steal. I explained that there are other circumstances where people may be late for work, such as car crashes and stuff. And if someone steals, well that's jsut wrong. I am clearly not trolling. You are only calling it trolling because someone isn't agreeing with you. Please don't be psycho about this, be friendly :)



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24 Aug 2012, 8:56 pm

It is not stealing to get a drink at a friends house.
If I had a friend of 20 years I would think it would be fairly common that we would grab a soda or a drink out of each others fridges when we were hanging out.
Just like I would think if you were grabbing a burger and one of you was short the other would probably just say here's the "insert random amount of change here" don't worry about it you'll catch me next time.

Sheesh,



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24 Aug 2012, 8:58 pm

Mike_Garrick wrote:
It is not stealing to get a drink at a friends house.
If I had a friend of 20 years I would think it would be fairly common that we would grab a soda or a drink out of each others fridges when we were hanging out.
Just like I would think if you were grabbing a burger and one of you was short the other would probably just say here's the "insert random amount of change here" don't worry about it you'll catch me next time.

Sheesh,


If you don't ask, it is stealing.



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24 Aug 2012, 9:05 pm

zxy8 wrote:
Mike_Garrick wrote:
It is not stealing to get a drink at a friends house.
If I had a friend of 20 years I would think it would be fairly common that we would grab a soda or a drink out of each others fridges when we were hanging out.
Just like I would think if you were grabbing a burger and one of you was short the other would probably just say here's the "insert random amount of change here" don't worry about it you'll catch me next time.

Sheesh,


If you don't ask, it is stealing.


If you have to ask anything other then "Want me to grab one for you too?" after 20 years, you need a better friend.



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24 Aug 2012, 10:15 pm

Mike_Garrick wrote:
It is not stealing to get a drink at a friends house.
If I had a friend of 20 years I would think it would be fairly common that we would grab a soda or a drink out of each others fridges when we were hanging out.
Just like I would think if you were grabbing a burger and one of you was short the other would probably just say here's the "insert random amount of change here" don't worry about it you'll catch me next time.

Sheesh,


ya and that's pretty much how it has been...

i'd always offer him drinks/food when he was over and vice versa....it just seems strange to end a friendship over something trivial.
had he not been so hostile and lead me to basicly a shutdown where i couldn't say much other than yes or no to him..i might have apologized but i am not good with confrontation
In confrontation i tend to go into fight or flight mode...i definitely didn't want to fight so i left.
i've known him since elementary and we've both lived in the same neighborhood for that amount of time.

I dont believe I can apologize, i feel that he has rejected me as a friend and said "don't ever come back" because of this...seems pretty crystal on his end. =/
Guess it's time to move on hopefully to better friends...=/