My Life really never started......
...I remember right after high school moving away to college and feeling optimistic about about my life, my future social circle, what could happen at college. I never really thought about high school though after I left it. I just blocked so much of it out of my mind it was almost as if it barely existed. It just feels strange thinking about it now, because now I have a much better picture of how depressed I was in HS from not having any friends.
Ultimately I was a ghost in HS. I was avoidant and I didn't have any friends. The concept of how to make friends just wasn't something that was ingrained in me. Either because I just wasn't, or because maybe I had gotten burned really early on in life and that got me started on the wrong foot socially starting in elementary school.
When I left HS, I didn't see any of that, I just felt like it was everybody else, and not me. I think I knew deep down though that it was me, and I really knew it. I just didn't have the drive to better myself. I didn't have that struggle when I was in HS.
My struggle in HS was that I was lonely and I didn't have girlfriend, and I was an emotional guy. BUT I never ever let this show. I always tried to conceal this. As a result of blocking all of this, I never learned how to just be myself and make personal connections with other people. I just blocked myself off from everybody. I NEVER ever wanted to be "Emo" or have anything to do with people like that. I despised emo people. It just didn't seem like a "manly" thing to do.
I just missed out on high school. I missed everything. Not that there weren't opportunities along the way, but I failed to see them. I failed to have the teenage drive. That rebellious nature.
College was a waste as well. I moved away for college, but I just had no experience with people. I really failed in every possible way that I could have failed. I failed with girls completely, but it wasn't like I was rejected that many times. Comparing me with any other college student, I never really "tried". I let movies and television influence me on how life was supposed to be and what college was like. But as far as being "present" enough to make connections with people, I wasnt there.
Basically college was a complete waste. High school was a complete waste. My whole life up to maybe a year ago has all just been a waste. My life hasn't started yet. If anybody knows what I mean, I have too many lonely memories, too many times of being by myself, that something is missing inside me.
Maybe I am finally starting to mature emotionally? I really don't know. I just can't explain. If people on the spectrum are supposed to be 6-8 years behind, I was def. pushing the 8+ years.
But its just this strange feeling. My life really hasn't started yet. As bad as my high school and my college experiences were, I feel like they don't define me. Its almost as if there isn't anything that defines me. Whatever I need to create to define myself to have a social life, I have yet to do that. I never found my stride.
If you think about a guy or a girl that moves away for college, the experiences that go with it shape them into who they are. Maybe I have just smoked too much MJ, or drank too much.
I totally know what you mean. *hug*
I also feel like everyone else was somehow driven and knew just what to do at certain stages of their life, and I was left wondering if I had missed out on a user's manual that everyone else had read. I took adults' advice and was very responsible, even though it's apparently an unwritten rule that you're not really supposed to be responsible. You're supposed to ignore the advice, and the advice is supposed to kick in later, after you've spend your teenage years having reckless fun. Well, I never had that fun. Nobody told me this stuff!
But it's not just the "fun" stuff. I also never learned how to be ambitious, to set a goal just for the purpose of advancing my interests. To this day, I can only motivate myself by convincing myself that achieving my goals will help other people.
But there are benefits, aren't there? I guarantee that you have a unique perspective on the world because you had an odd start. If you play your cards right, you can actually end up impressing people with your unique outlook on the world. All that time when you were "missing everything", what were you doing instead? I bet you picked up some odd skills and habits. Think! What did you get as a consolation prize? There must be something.
I totally know what you mean. *hug*
I also feel like everyone else was somehow driven and knew just what to do at certain stages of their life, and I was left wondering if I had missed out on a user's manual that everyone else had read. I took adults' advice and was very responsible, even though it's apparently an unwritten rule that you're not really supposed to be responsible. You're supposed to ignore the advice, and the advice is supposed to kick in later, after you've spend your teenage years having reckless fun. Well, I never had that fun. Nobody told me this stuff!
But it's not just the "fun" stuff. I also never learned how to be ambitious, to set a goal just for the purpose of advancing my interests. To this day, I can only motivate myself by convincing myself that achieving my goals will help other people.
But there are benefits, aren't there? I guarantee that you have a unique perspective on the world because you had an odd start. If you play your cards right, you can actually end up impressing people with your unique outlook on the world. All that time when you were "missing everything", what were you doing instead? I bet you picked up some odd skills and habits. Think! What did you get as a consolation prize? There must be something.
Hmm I am not sure what my odd skills and habits are. I would have to think about that. Mostly, I can't remember what I was doing. It was either playing on the computer or playing video games.
But yeah you are right, I was overly responsible in HS. I didn't drink, and I didn't smoke. Didn't talk to people really that much. That all flew out the window after I started college. Not that I was super heavy into it, but I did it enough times. And now mostly being sober again, I have a really conflicting view on what MJ and alcohol did to me and if it is safe or not. I liked having a group in college, even though they mostly didn't go to my school and they drank and smoke. I liked fitting in somewhere and we would play cards and make jokes and have fun. EVen though having them as a group didn't get me closer to any girls, it was just another outlet for me to take my mind off of what I really wanted. My real deep down desires. I hung out with them for a good two or three years.
But now none of that means anything. Its all worthless. I don't hang out with those people anymore. In fact I really don't hang out with anyone. Now I am looking back on my first experiences with College, and my mind feels warped. I start thinking about all of the people in orientation that I didn't talk to, all of the people I didn't make a connection with. Its just endless..........this endless feeling. Whenever I drive by the campus, I can picture it all again, and its very depressing.
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Ultimately I was a ghost in HS. I was avoidant and I didn't have any friends. The concept of how to make friends just wasn't something that was ingrained in me. Either because I just wasn't, or because maybe I had gotten burned really early on in life and that got me started on the wrong foot socially starting in elementary school.
When I left HS, I didn't see any of that, I just felt like it was everybody else, and not me. I think I knew deep down though that it was me, and I really knew it. I just didn't have the drive to better myself. I didn't have that struggle when I was in HS.
My struggle in HS was that I was lonely and I didn't have girlfriend, and I was an emotional guy. BUT I never ever let this show. I always tried to conceal this. As a result of blocking all of this, I never learned how to just be myself and make personal connections with other people. I just blocked myself off from everybody. I NEVER ever wanted to be "Emo" or have anything to do with people like that. I despised emo people. It just didn't seem like a "manly" thing to do.
I just missed out on high school. I missed everything. Not that there weren't opportunities along the way, but I failed to see them. I failed to have the teenage drive. That rebellious nature.
College was a waste as well. I moved away for college, but I just had no experience with people. I really failed in every possible way that I could have failed. I failed with girls completely, but it wasn't like I was rejected that many times. Comparing me with any other college student, I never really "tried". I let movies and television influence me on how life was supposed to be and what college was like. But as far as being "present" enough to make connections with people, I wasnt there.
Basically college was a complete waste. High school was a complete waste. My whole life up to maybe a year ago has all just been a waste. My life hasn't started yet. If anybody knows what I mean, I have too many lonely memories, too many times of being by myself, that something is missing inside me.
Maybe I am finally starting to mature emotionally? I really don't know. I just can't explain. If people on the spectrum are supposed to be 6-8 years behind, I was def. pushing the 8+ years.
But its just this strange feeling. My life really hasn't started yet. As bad as my high school and my college experiences were, I feel like they don't define me. Its almost as if there isn't anything that defines me. Whatever I need to create to define myself to have a social life, I have yet to do that. I never found my stride.
If you think about a guy or a girl that moves away for college, the experiences that go with it shape them into who they are. Maybe I have just smoked too much MJ, or drank too much.
I know the feeling dude, but I never smoked MJ, lol.
I had an "OK" school life....but most of it was being manipulated in a gang of so called "friends" who fellout with one dude each week...me included. I started to have a "social" life in my last year...but one guy in college completely F'd that up for me now as my mindset has never been the same since (it is THAT bad and it upsets me).
I am glad I have a job and stuff but I am still not "100%" happy....sure I have money but I use it to buy crap basically and don't go outside much aside from shopping and going to work via car.
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Thanks, I hope things get better for you as well. How can you relate? How was your hs or college like?
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Thanks, I hope things get better for you as well. How can you relate? How was your hs or college like?[/quote
well my highschool/college experience was pretty much........., not there really i went from class to classnever really talking to anyone unless on the rare occasion(mostly from teachers etc) i was spoken to (and trying to dodge the bullies that would hang in the halls waiting for you),basically i was a ghost,i never went on field trips or to any balls/dances or such,never had a girlfriend had no friends ,i didnt really know how to make them,i might have had maybe 1 or 2 that i would actually call "friends" but its hard to remember alot of it as i kinda blocked it all out it was a rather traumatic time im actually surprised i didn't end up doing drugs and drink.i was also a very emotional guy and tried my hardest to hide it as well as trying to hide my somewhat "nerdy" personality it all kinda ended up with me not really knowing who i was or what "I" wanted out of life after putting all that behind me(highschool/college) i thought things would change in the adult world........but i was wrong,so nowadays i spend most of my time at home alone i still fight with my depression and lonelyness which was a big thing throughout highschool/college i dont get out much,i still have trouble making friends i do have a handful more than i did before,still never had a girlfriend and still a virgin
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anyway in short i feel like ive missed so much and as to how i can relate,im not sure how to descibe it really but just reading your piece reminded me of so much about my past and felt so familiar
thanks for taking an interest anyway and good luck with your future.
Aspies mature at a slower rate than NT's, so you totally can still be a kid at 25. I know that HS didn't define me, and looking back on how stressed and crazy I was in HS and how I wanted to grab a gun and blow everybody away (this was before school shootings became a regular fact of life) and how 20 years later I have no idea what happened to my bullies, where they are, what they're doing, and even better I don't care and they likely don't even remember me, it all seems so silly to hear NT's going on about HS nostalgia. Let's face it, HS sucks. After I graduated HS I deliberately did things that forced me to step out of my comfort zone, and I'm a better person today for it. If you find yourself in a rut, identify what's holding you back, then deliberately break that mold.
I just wanted to add;
I am 25 now, and I feel like my emotional development has literally just caught up with all the harsh experiences I have endured. It has made me hardened, in a good way.
I can do more normal social facial expressions and so on. I am much less trusting (though I still find confrontation almost overwhelmingly impossible due to the Aspie thing of feeling other people's emotions as your own. It's therefore hard to countenance)
I don't pretend there is no work still to be done. But I am relieved to feel older and emotionally more mature.
When I was 20 I was ridiculously immature. My problems with theory of mind have been enormous, dreadful, dangerous; they're better now. But I still have to be careful.
I've noticed that whilst I notice non-verbal signals, for example, I second guess them. I don't register them quickly enough. I am trying to learn to improve on this.
'Cos if some creepy weirdo I have to engage with formally repeatedly looks at my tits (this happened recently), it's safe to assume he's being predatory rather than just noticing it but basically it registering as null in my mind.
Go easy on yourself.
Learn to accept the harsh ways of the world, build on what you have learnt and keep working hard to mature and improve your sense of self.
Don't give up
We develop slower, but we can get there eventually. Having a diagnosis is a plus from this point of view. Those without won't even recognise their own developmental delays necessarily
You're young enough to catch up, with the right knowledge.
I have known blatant-but-undiagnosed Aspies in their 40s/50s who were SO immature, and so unaware of their behaviour.
Diagnosis is definitely a plus
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Diagnosis is definitely a plus
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Diagnosis is definitely a plus
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I have to say, I'm so relieved that there is so much more information out there and that I had the nous to identify myself, meet the right people to push me further and eventually learn lots about autism and get a diagnosis.
I cringe at all my social problems so far. It terrifies me how much I would still lack insight without this diagnosis. My social skills are limited, but thank God I know I am autistic and can moderate certain things and also understand myself, and know my limitations.
It is sad for people who go through life never knowing
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