I AM A PATHETIC PIECE OF ****

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10 Nov 2007, 1:32 pm

WHEN YOU ARE A KID, PEOPLE FORGIVE YOUR QUIRKS, YOUR SOCIAL INEPTITUDE AND YOUR FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. WHEN YOU ARE AN ADULT, AND YOU STILL DISPLAY THE SOCIAL TRAITS THAT YOU DISPLAYED WHEN YOU WERE TEN, YOU MAKE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. THEY'LL QUESTION YOUR INTELLECT AND YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND MIGHT EVEN WONDER IF YOU ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY. YOU CAN'T REACH OUT FOR HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNWILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM; TO THEM, YOU ARE JUST AN A--HOLE WITH A BAD ATTITUDE. YOU CAN'T FIND A SATISFYING JOB BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PASS AN INTERVIEW. YOU CAN'T MAKE FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU ARE WEIRD. YOU CAN'T FIND ROMANCE FOR THE SAME REASON. YOU CAN'T OVERCOMPENSATE FOR YOUR SOCIAL DEFICIENCIES WITH MATERIAL POSESSIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS BROKE BECAUSE YOU ARE UNDERPAID AND UNDEREMPLOYED. YOU ARE PROBABLY UGLY AND OVERWEIGHT. THAT PRETTY MUCH DESCRIBES ME. I AM A TOTAL LOSER. A TOTAL LOSER. THE BULLIES FROM HIGH SCHOOL WERE RIGHT. I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THEM.



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10 Nov 2007, 1:42 pm

The bullies weren't right. You're not a loser, your giving up because your stuck in a rough spot. If you quit and buy into all that crap then you'll be a loser. People might be uncomfortable with aspies but that is their problem for being ignorant and unexcepting @$$-holes. Basically they are what they accuse us of being. Find what makes you happy, get the education to do it and fight for it, because dreams will only come true if you work for them. Also, don't be ashamed to get help, if you need social skills training get it or find the books which explain social rules and interview principles and practice. Your going to fail at times and your going to feel worthless sometimes this is completly normal. Vent, do what you need to do to get over it, and then try again.



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10 Nov 2007, 1:47 pm

Don´t be silly.

You´re not weird.
You´re not a loser.
They were not right.
They were children who didn´t know any better.
It´s ok if some people don´t understand you.
We are here fo you.
Don´t worry.
It´s gonna be ok.
You´re gonna be ok.
I´ll think of you.



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10 Nov 2007, 1:50 pm

It's tragic if the knocks have made you feel that way about yourself... :( it's all an illusion! - you're not a pathetic piece of ****.


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10 Nov 2007, 2:05 pm

MW99,
it's official,humans can be crap,and there are loads of them.
don't use their ignorance and silly problems with accepting difference as a way of confirming self being pathetic,because that is no self confirmation at all,it in fact confirms just how immature other people can be.
would actually want to be friends with people who have such prejudiced views with who they want to know?

it sounds like would benefit a lot from getting assessed for AS [judging from profile are not diagnosed already?].


one of the best ways to get revenge on nasty people and bullies is to not to quit from life,keep going and don't give up on own personal challenge [AS].

things like social skills training and an AS social group could help and a diagnosis could help with getting
support [if needed] help around jobs/interviews,and if applies-disability benefits.


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10 Nov 2007, 2:15 pm

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WHEN YOU ARE A KID, PEOPLE FORGIVE YOUR QUIRKS, YOUR SOCIAL INEPTITUDE AND YOUR FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. WHEN YOU ARE AN ADULT, AND YOU STILL DISPLAY THE SOCIAL TRAITS THAT YOU DISPLAYED WHEN YOU WERE TEN, YOU MAKE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. THEY'LL QUESTION YOUR INTELLECT AND YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND MIGHT EVEN WONDER IF YOU ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY. YOU CAN'T REACH OUT FOR HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNWILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM; TO THEM, YOU ARE JUST AN A--HOLE WITH A BAD ATTITUDE. YOU CAN'T FIND A SATISFYING JOB BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PASS AN INTERVIEW. YOU CAN'T MAKE FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU ARE WEIRD. YOU CAN'T FIND ROMANCE FOR THE SAME REASON. YOU CAN'T OVERCOMPENSATE FOR YOUR SOCIAL DEFICIENCIES WITH MATERIAL POSESSIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS BROKE BECAUSE YOU ARE UNDERPAID AND UNDEREMPLOYED. YOU ARE PROBABLY UGLY AND OVERWEIGHT. THAT PRETTY MUCH DESCRIBES ME. I AM A TOTAL LOSER. A TOTAL LOSER. THE BULLIES FROM HIGH SCHOOL WERE RIGHT. I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THEM.


and then what? After you listened to them you would still be what you are, right?

every word you said, I am, and everything you didn't have to say, I am too. However I think of how many people I am pissing off by being around, and somehow that makes life just one iota more bearable.

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10 Nov 2007, 2:15 pm

The more you keep telling yourself those things, the more likely it'll come true. Those bullies stripped you of your self esteem and made you feel like a failure, making you more likely to fail and thus it continues round. It's that horrible problem cycle. I know it well. Personally, I would suggest trying to get a bit of counseling to help you break through that cycle - do you have any access to free counselling?

I realised that there's no point in caring what others think of you too much. Once I'd got this into my head, I found that everything was so much easier AND I was still being true to myself. I'm an odd person but I've found that some people seem to like that.

I think you've get others thoughts out of your head. Just say, "why the feck should I care what they think? If they don't like who I am, then tough luck to them, they're missing out on a good friend"



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10 Nov 2007, 2:18 pm

I could've written the opening post. I feel exactly the same. And I'm so lonely I just can't stand being alive anymore.


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10 Nov 2007, 2:43 pm

The question is not whether or not they were right. The question is, do you make people uncomfortable, or are people uncomfortable around you? Unless you intentionally set out to do so, you are not responsible for how other people think or feel. That is there responsibility. You give yourself TOO much credit to think otherwise. Actually, it's a way for victims to try and claim some control over their situations by taking the blame for how others feel, because it's easier to change your own behavior than theirs.

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10 Nov 2007, 2:53 pm

I don't see the problem as who's better than who, but as who has the power position in society.

Who has been given the power to make the rules, choose the players, pick the games we all will play.

Whether it's grade school, high school or adult life... it really depends on who has the power... perceived or actual.

One way these power people get their position is through bullying... the art of reading people so well that you can differentiate between victim and nemesis.
Some bullies are a clumsy lot... bashing about until they find someone gives in to their self-designed power trip.
Some bullies are very intelligent and crafty.

What they all have in common is the ability to surround themselves with those who cower, and/or those who worship.

The problems during pre-adult years is that there is a much bigger herd mentality to the bullying and there is greater opportunity to apply this in social settings. These social settings occur on a much more frequent basis during the course of the day than in the adult setting, usually.

During the adult years, bullying is confined to work or social gatherings.
The work place for an adult is much different than the workplace for a pre-adult. One is in place due to a contract between the individual and the company/clients, the other is in place through force... the child is mandated to attend school, while the adult may or may not work due to their own decision or that of the employer.

It's too easy to just say, "Just don't give the bully any ammunition to use against you.", or , "Just ignore them and they'll go away when you stop being an easy target.", etc.

I think quite a lot of folks here would agree with your feelings at some point in their lives.
The key point here is to get beyond it somehow; to quit measuring yourself against those other kinds of people.
You should really start to understand the issues and 'defects' of those other folks instead of using them to measure yourself by.
Some people say a person needs to hit rock bottom before they can lift themselves back up... I personally don't believe it.

I'd say, just keep looking for the opportunities that you can exploit for your own personal welfare. I don't mean to do this in a bad way... but there are probably times and places when you were or are able to have something positive happen in your life.

Maybe if you could be more specific here about your situation, we could come up with some ideas that might work. :D


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10 Nov 2007, 3:00 pm

Mw99 wrote:
WHEN YOU ARE A KID, PEOPLE FORGIVE YOUR QUIRKS, YOUR SOCIAL INEPTITUDE AND YOUR FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. WHEN YOU ARE AN ADULT, AND YOU STILL DISPLAY THE SOCIAL TRAITS THAT YOU DISPLAYED WHEN YOU WERE TEN, YOU MAKE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. THEY'LL QUESTION YOUR INTELLECT AND YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND MIGHT EVEN WONDER IF YOU ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY. YOU CAN'T REACH OUT FOR HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNWILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM; TO THEM, YOU ARE JUST AN A--HOLE WITH A BAD ATTITUDE. YOU CAN'T FIND A SATISFYING JOB BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PASS AN INTERVIEW. YOU CAN'T MAKE FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU ARE WEIRD. YOU CAN'T FIND ROMANCE FOR THE SAME REASON. YOU CAN'T OVERCOMPENSATE FOR YOUR SOCIAL DEFICIENCIES WITH MATERIAL POSESSIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS BROKE BECAUSE YOU ARE UNDERPAID AND UNDEREMPLOYED. YOU ARE PROBABLY UGLY AND OVERWEIGHT. THAT PRETTY MUCH DESCRIBES ME. I AM A TOTAL LOSER. A TOTAL LOSER. THE BULLIES FROM HIGH SCHOOL WERE RIGHT. I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THEM.


What advice could the bullies from high school have possibly offered that would have been of value? And why would you want to fit in with a bunch of as*holes? I was considered to be an oddball in up through high school and even in college. But guess what. On Wrong Planet, I found a whole community of weirdos just like me. Does that mean I am going to give up? Hell no. Where there's a will, there's a way, and the day I will give up is the day when they will put my cold hard body in a coffin.


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10 Nov 2007, 3:07 pm

Get a CDL, start driving a long distance truck, you will fit right in. They are always hiring, school is six weeks, and the company will often pay, the money is good, in a few years you can own your own sleeper rig.

It is the lone cowboy job of the era.

Many a trucker has bought a ranch, driven till it was paid off, and then sold the rig, and watched cows eat grass. You are done and set for life.



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10 Nov 2007, 3:19 pm

sounds beautiful.


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10 Nov 2007, 3:37 pm

Inventor wrote:
Get a CDL, start driving a long distance truck, you will fit right in. They are always hiring, school is six weeks, and the company will often pay, the money is good, in a few years you can own your own sleeper rig.

It is the lone cowboy job of the era.

Many a trucker has bought a ranch, driven till it was paid off, and then sold the rig, and watched cows eat grass. You are done and set for life.


I was starting to write a bunch of questions for you about truck driving Inventor, but I'll start a new thread for that.


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10 Nov 2007, 3:57 pm

Inventor wrote:
Get a CDL, start driving a long distance truck, you will fit right in. They are always hiring, school is six weeks, and the company will often pay, the money is good, in a few years you can own your own sleeper rig.

It is the lone cowboy job of the era.

Many a trucker has bought a ranch, driven till it was paid off, and then sold the rig, and watched cows eat grass. You are done and set for life.


How much money does the average truck driver earn per year?



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10 Nov 2007, 4:07 pm

Mw99 wrote:
Inventor wrote:
Get a CDL, start driving a long distance truck, you will fit right in. They are always hiring, school is six weeks, and the company will often pay, the money is good, in a few years you can own your own sleeper rig.

It is the lone cowboy job of the era.

Many a trucker has bought a ranch, driven till it was paid off, and then sold the rig, and watched cows eat grass. You are done and set for life.


How much money does the average truck driver earn per year?


Just to let you know... I started a new thread asking him about driving trucks... I just forgot to ask the question about money! :roll:
I didn't want to hijack your thread.

Here's mine--->Long-Haul Trucking thread<-----


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