NHS doctors piss me off beyond bellief

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NHS doctors are totally incompetent, in my experience.

They do open surgery for a condition which you don't even have.
And bugger up the surgery.

If you test positive for a potentially fatal illness they don't bother to do proper further testing - never mind give you proper treatment.
You can be signed off for a decade because of being too ill to work, and they still don't think there's any clear benefit to trying to figure out what's wrong with your health. Never mind trying to help you get better.

They laugh at you behind your back "in the staffroom" saying that you're faking all of your symptoms... and aren't shy to let you know they're doing that.
They laugh at you for having "duff DNA" , being a hypochondriac even though you're not, being crazy for refusing to pretend you're not really ill ... etc.
If you write a letter, they don't even bother to read it and give the most lazy, inappropriate, rubbish replies.

Nobody is auditing them (complaints have to go to the very NHS doctors who are buggering about in the first place) and they think that means they can be as rubbish as they like. Health Protection Services could not give less of a toss if they tried.

Then if you complain, the NHS doctors bluntly state "well what do you expect for free ?" .... even though (so I am told) NHS doctors actually make a fortune.... something like £75 an hour.
£75 an hour ! !! !

They tell you to have CBT "to address false illness beliefs" , but try to pressure you into agreeing on the basis that you need to pretend that you're not really ill. Even if you tested positive for a potentially fatal illness, and are long-term incapacitated.
When you refuse to go along with irrational notions that you're not ill, they claim you're resisting treatment and refuse to refer you for CBT.

Even if they have already tried to get you sectioned on false grounds and then every mental health professional they've ever sent you to see (including the fancy clinical psychiatrist) agrees with your perspective and thinks the doctor is being an incompetent f**ktard, and that of course you are ill ..... the NHS doctors will ignore those mental professionals and behave as though they know better and like of course you're not really ill. Because THEY are the ones with the mental health problem. Not you.

They throw out bogus diagnoses without doing any form of testing for a condition.
And make up the most stupid lies imagineable.

They have no shame in constructing a whole fake medical history for you which is much less dodgy than the one which actually happened..... telling you that "you're remembering it wrong" .... purely because they're too stupid and incompetent to figure out how to get your real notes up on the computer, and want people to pretend that they're less criminally neglectful than they truly are.

NHS doctors annoy me so much.... I just want to slap my local doctors in their stupid smug faces sometimes.


Thankyou for humouring my little rant.

You forgot a few, and not just limited to NHS doctors.

They think they are a lot smarter then you.
They can diagnose all your problems in less then 30 seconds.
Patients only confuse the issues.
They never admit they have you mixed up with another patient.
If they don't like you, everything you do is wrong, all that you say is dum.
They often have more psychological and/or emotional issues then you.
If they really were sharp at what they do they wouldn't be in NHS or similiar programs.

My approach to Doctors is to give them the benefit of the doubt. They don't have to be great, just competent. But as soon as I believe they are wrong about something and not listening, or being rude I do not put up with it at all, and will see another doctor.

I'd agree with that.

And if they mix your results up with somebody else and give you the wrong one, they just behave like that's totally normal procedure and no big deal. Which honestly I think probably IS totally normal for the NHS.

They claim to be unable to cope with thinking about more than one symptom in a face to face appointment... but when you try and write by letter about your condition they just do the "we'd be happy to discuss this matter in person" routine.

The NHS is a bloated flatulent organisation and because of it's existence there are no private doctors in many areas, and no way to reach one without the kind of long-distance travel which by definition many very ill people are unable to do.
And so, a lot of people can only attend the one miserable little doctor's practice that's within their "cachement area"

And ALL of the doctors from that practice might well be "of one mind" .... when you point out that some of them are blatantly prejudiced against you before you've even said a word, they just repeat that they are "of one mind" .... I reckon they all just have one communal brain-cell which they plug into whenever a patient comes along.

The only competent doctor which I ever met was the one who helped me to get signed off.... he wasn't in my cachement area but he saw me informally then wrote a letter on my behalf telling the other doctors to get their act together.... but he's been retired for years !

Have you ever read "Running with scissors" ?
I wouldn't even be surprised if a lot of doctor's families are like the one in that book.

Especially bugs me, the idea of it being a free service, well who pays their wages then?

You're right, it's NOT a free service, at least if you ever paid taxes (even if it was that's not supposed to be an excuse for incompetence and lack of accountability)

I paid in a similar system since I was 18 and learnt to keep myself as healthy as possible At least these days I can afford to pay for a private consultation, but I very rarely need to.

No point in starting a long rant of my own, but hell, LadyWoof, I know exactly what you're talking about. Just one thing that gets on my nerves: dare to say a bad word (no matter how justified) about doctors or psychologists/psychiatrists in "polite" company and you'll be treated as an uneducated savage

Well, you can be assured that I gave the doctor who said that a right bollocking.

It went like this -

Dr. Quack : "Well what do you expect for free ?"

Me - " Oh, please..... don't even try to kid on that you're providing a service for free. It's not like you're a shining altruistic angel providing this service for free from the goodness of your heart. NHS doctors get paid a fortune out of tax funds... which in case you forgot, everybody in society is forced to contribute towards - whether you're providing a half-decent service or not. How much do you get paid again ?"

Dr. Quack - " (grumbling) Not enough.... they should really pay us more."

Me - ""They ?" You mean the people who're being given shoddy "free-grade" service ?
Why should "they" be paying you more, when you think it's fine to provide the public with such poor service that really you shouldn't be paid for it at all ? "

Dr. Quack : (sheepish) "Well... you do have a point...."

Me : "Yes. I do. And if you're not going to behave like a professional, then there's no point me even being here."

Dr. Quack : "The appointment is over now. Bye"

Thankyou for your supportive comments.
I completely agree.

Everybody in this country pays taxes.
As an example, right now VAT is 17-20% for a lot of goods.
You can't even buy tampons without having to cough up for taxation.

And, I totally agree about "polite" company..... lots of people seem determined to think that the NHS is just fantastic, and will stubbornly stick to that opinion no matter what you say about.

I think what you're describing is endemic to health care in general across the world and not just the NHS. I live in the US and I just switched my primary care physician to someone else. The main reason I left my previous PCP was because his answer to everything was lose weight, lose weight, and guess what... lose weight.

I've had five main problems over the last two years.
1) HRT for transitioning
2) hypertension
3) sleep apnea
4) My right knee is jacked up
5) Anxiety/Stress

I solved issues 2 on my own with OTC supplements. Issue 5, I've learned to manage with the help of a counselor whereas his answer was to throw medication at it without fixing the underlying problems that caused it. I fixed these problems and work to fix them as they crop up. I was referred to a specialist for the sleep apnea which was super helpful. My right knee is still messed up. The doc was only good with the HRT and I can get that elsewhere and get help on my issues.

I saw my new doc today for my first appt, and his assistant checked my knee out and suggested that on my return visit in 2 weeks we'll check further, but he thinks my right knee meniscus is damaged, which is way more than anything my previous doc could figure out.

I still have about 20-30 more lbs to lose and It's slow but steady but it was super frustrating that my old pcp would go, you should exercise to lose weight, and I'd return and say fix my knee because using an elliptical or walking is painful and shouldn't be, and he'd go lose weight and your knee will get better. When I weighed 60+lbs more than I do now, I did not have this problem with my knee, your idea that more weight loss will fix this is BS, and thus I have a new PCP.

Getting lame service sucks. Even outside of Healthcare, getting lame service is lame.

I agree with you stardraigh, it seems to be getting worse everywhere (and I'm really sorry about the problems you're struggling with). My experience across Europe is that at best it's a lottery: you might get someone good but more often you won't... Things change dramatically of course in private practises.

And the main problem is that the consequences of bad service in this area can be extremely serious and sometimes irreversible. It's not just a rude clerk or an obtuse bureaucrat you're dealing with. And when we're talking about mental health the damage that can and is done is really frightening,

LadyWoof, that dialogue now makes you my hero, I rarely start that kind of thing because I'm not able to stop

Re: Stardraigh
Aw I'm sorry to hear that you've also been having bad experiences with health care so-called professionals.

Re: BenderRodriguez
Thanks ! hehe.