Plus, that damn cat!
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That damn cat is peeing on everything now, not just my bed when it gets a chance. It's peed and pooped all over my daughters bed too, several times in the past two or three days. She's got a clean litter box, it's not a new kind of litter, etc. That's it, she's an outside cat now! I'm done with her trying to pull down the curtains and succeeding, I'm done with her knocking all the stuff off shelves and flat surfaces, I'm done with her literally tearing holes in curtains and tablecloths. Cat pee is the limit that I don't cross. Forget it. My daughter is ok with her being an outside cat. I told her she either goes outside or we give her to somebody else. She's looking for somebody else to give her to meanwhile, but at the moment, she's outside. She's also driving me f*****g crazy meowing at the door and trying to get in. I've had it. There is no shelter or any place like that down here to take her to. Plus, I'm out of gas and my brakes are messed up pretty bad so I'm not driving to Tuscaloosa or Bham for a shelter right now. I've got to take the van over to the car guy's house as soon as DH gets paid so I'll be without a ride for a little while anyway. I've about had it with cats!
All cats have Asperger's.
But I've learned not to rip down the curtains, knock stuff off the shelves, and piss and s**t in the bed.
So I get to live in the house.
Feral Aspies (and cats that act ferally) need to live in the woods.
Throw that cat out side.
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Well, older daughter threw a fit and said she would keep the cat in her room, and that's the younger daughters cat and not even hers, so the cats back here.
I think I've decided that if that damn cat pees on one more thing, I'm going to pee on the cat! Of course that could end up with me at the emergency room with some very strange injuries to explain and possibly being investigated by some animal rights people, so maybe I should just get my husband to do it. He won't have to be as close to actually hit it.
The only suggestion I could make is keep the cat outside, I've never known a fully grown cat to piddle on people's beds,
My cat pooped in the bath one day but usually she uses the kitty litter. "I think she was trying to tell me something"
If you have a garage make the cat sleep there at night.
one time I was given a house to stay in by a family friend with a warning to put food out for the cat but not to expect to see it as it was very skittish and hates people and to keep doors closed as it will pee on the pillows and bed etc.
Of course, the cat was a complete delight as soon as we spoke to her, found out that her litter box was left dirty (and after she saw that I cleaned it after every time she went) and washed out her bowls and changed her food, I came into the living room to find my then fiance lying down with the cat happily sat on his chest.
The cat further told us that it wanted to be allowed to go outside which I conveyed over and the cat had since had her bed relegated to the sheltered spot under the balcony and is the happiest cat ever.
If a cat pees everywhere in the house it's either because it is incontinent or because you've pissed her/him off.
One time I accidentally left my cats shut inside without a litter box I came home to found a nice pile of poo - in the fireplace. My cat knew I didn't do it on purpose so he went in the one place he thought would cause the least mess (bless him forever).
That cat knows you hate her and hates you back. That's all there is to it.
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Of course, the cat was a complete delight as soon as we spoke to her, found out that her litter box was left dirty (and after she saw that I cleaned it after every time she went) and washed out her bowls and changed her food, I came into the living room to find my then fiance lying down with the cat happily sat on his chest.
The cat further told us that it wanted to be allowed to go outside which I conveyed over and the cat had since had her bed relegated to the sheltered spot under the balcony and is the happiest cat ever.
If a cat pees everywhere in the house it's either because it is incontinent or because you've pissed her/him off.
One time I accidentally left my cats shut inside without a litter box I came home to found a nice pile of poo - in the fireplace. My cat knew I didn't do it on purpose so he went in the one place he thought would cause the least mess (bless him forever).
That cat knows you hate her and hates you back. That's all there is to it.
First, the litter box is cleaned and changed every day. Nothing is left dirty. I know that can cause them to go in other places, usually the bath tub. She's never been stuck with a dirty litter box.
Second, I didn't hate the cat right off. She was a little kitten and everybody loved her. She would do kitten type things like climb the curtains and knock things off and we have a spray bottle to teach her not to do that and that's something all cats do and they outgrow it. I had no problem with her about that.
Third, when I started disliking her was one morning when she came into my room and was on the bed with me and I was just waking up and she was walking around up by my head and then just peed on the bed!! Litter box clean and the door wasn't shut, no reason to pee there! Then she would go back in my room and pee on my bed when she could get the chance to get in there, so now my door is kept shut all the time. Lately she's started peeing on my daughters bed at night when she's in there with her. The litter box is in there and yes it was clean. She would just pee on the bed for no reason. It's not an all the time thing and it's just on the beds. So yeah, I'm fairly unhappy with her.
Plus she's still climbing the curtains and pulling things down even after being sprayed with water and told no. Nobody is treating the poor kitten badly. I didn't have any bad feelings towards her until all the bed peeing started. I still pet her and everything else. I just don't trust her and we have got to figure out something because I'm not going to have my belongings torn up by claws or ruined by pee.
So, try again to find the answer as to why this wonderful little sprite is behaving so very naughtily.

Have you taken her to the vet?
She is definitely trying to say something with peeing on the bed issue - is she spayed/neutered? When I was little and used to have entire cats around the house, they would pee sometimes on the carpet for no reason and I am told that unnutered cats can have lots of urinary tract problems. In general, female cats can have lots of urinary tract issues, specially if they are fed only dry food diet. It would be definitely worth checking with the vet if you haven't already?
From what you said it seems psychological because she started with you first and I am assuming you are the main food provider/cleaner of litter etc, what I would call 'cat mommy'. So she has come to you first with her problem but when you failed to address the said problem she moved to your daughters bed. Something is bothering her so you just have to keep going through everything until you get to the solution - as giving her away and putting her permanently outside have already been discounted as possible solutions.
It could be neighbourhood as well - if another cat has moved in and is bullying her outside, it could be making her unhappy. If you have moved anything in the house or changed something that she is particular about (you may not have even noticed) then it may be that.
Has someone moved in? Is she trying to mark her territory? It's better if you can figure out what it is and because that way you will have learned a bit of cat language which is always nice.
Also, even with my vast and superior knowledge of cats and cat language, I STILL cannot stop my girl cat from occasionally bringing live things to play with in the house. She knows full well its not allowed, but she is so strong willed that nothing works in this regard. She feels sheepish for a while afterwards when I am cross and won't pet her so she spends Ages trying to endear herself to me and of course I always give in, but she still has some sort of brain disconnect when it comes to this - if I catch her with it still in her mouth she will turn around and run back out of the cat flap with it to torture it on the lawn instead but once or twice she waited for me to turn my back and brought it back in again!
So, I sympathise with your problem but also with the cat - and hope you find a win-win solution.
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Not yet. She doesn't seem to be sick and we will take her for shots when we take the dogs. She isn't doing it all that often. Once every few days, then my daughter's bed two nights in a row. That's why I don't think it's a UTI, she's not doing it often and just on random things. It's also not just trickling, it's a good amount. I was a vet tech and am familiar with common things to look out for in cats and dogs, and she's got no signs of a UTI.
She is definitely trying to say something with peeing on the bed issue - is she spayed/neutered? When I was little and used to have entire cats around the house, they would pee sometimes on the carpet for no reason and I am told that unnutered cats can have lots of urinary tract problems. In general, female cats can have lots of urinary tract issues, specially if they are fed only dry food diet. It would be definitely worth checking with the vet if you haven't already?
We will have her spayed when we take her. She's only about four months old right now, and she doesn't go outside except when we put her out there and then she wouldn't leave the porch area. We have wood floors and no carpets and there has been no pee except for the beds. The bottom line on that is, I'm not having it. If we can't get this resolved soon, both my daughters know that she has to go. I'm not having the mattresses ruined by cat pee, and cat pee is one odor that I absolutely cannot stand and I'm very sensitive to it and can smell it when it's very faint. As I said, I don't believe it's a UTI because of where she peed and the fact that it isn't often. With a UTI they will dribble urine here and there. She pees a full amount on the beds. I have an old feather mattress on top of my regular mattress and I can't find another one like it because they don't make them anymore. If I have to choose between a kitten that I've known for a few months and my ability to sleep well, the kitten will find a new home. The same can be said for my daughters mattress. I don't have the money to replace hers when it's ruined, and I don't have the money at the moment to take her to the vet and pay $50 to be told she doesn't have a UTI.
From what you said it seems psychological because she started with you first and I am assuming you are the main food provider/cleaner of litter etc, what I would call 'cat mommy'. So she has come to you first with her problem but when you failed to address the said problem she moved to your daughters bed. Something is bothering her so you just have to keep going through everything until you get to the solution - as giving her away and putting her permanently outside have already been discounted as possible solutions.
My daughter feeds her and holds her and plays with her most of the time and she basically stays right up under her when she's at home, but she gets petted by everyone, me included. I do change the litter box every day when I take out the trash, and I clean it and put fresh litter in, every day. Same kind of litter, same kind of cleaner, nothing new there. We went a couple of months without a problem. Then there were a couple of instances with my bed, and now my daughters bed. There is nothing else to change. She's got the same kind of food she always has, fed in the same place and times as always, and fresh water. There is nothing else that pertains to the cat that has changed, and nothing has changed here.
It could be neighbourhood as well - if another cat has moved in and is bullying her outside, it could be making her unhappy. If you have moved anything in the house or changed something that she is particular about (you may not have even noticed) then it may be that.
She's only been outside that one time. Nobody is bullying her. She doesn't go out. We have two dogs in the house but they were here before she was and they get along fine.
Has someone moved in? Is she trying to mark her territory? It's better if you can figure out what it is and because that way you will have learned a bit of cat language which is always nice.
Nobody has moved in. But if they had, then figuring out who gets to stay is simple. No person would be kicked out and no animal would be allowed to pee on the beds because they were upset over it.
Also, even with my vast and superior knowledge of cats and cat language, I STILL cannot stop my girl cat from occasionally bringing live things to play with in the house. She knows full well its not allowed, but she is so strong willed that nothing works in this regard. She feels sheepish for a while afterwards when I am cross and won't pet her so she spends Ages trying to endear herself to me and of course I always give in, but she still has some sort of brain disconnect when it comes to this - if I catch her with it still in her mouth she will turn around and run back out of the cat flap with it to torture it on the lawn instead but once or twice she waited for me to turn my back and brought it back in again!
So, I sympathise with your problem but also with the cat - and hope you find a win-win solution.
There is also the sheer destructiveness of her. She's torn my bedroom curtains, pulled down three sets of curtains, and while she's not scratching the furniture as much anymore, she's still after the curtains. I had to take my diningroom curtains down for right now because she pulled them down and they are delicate fabric and I'm not having them torn to shreds by her jumping on them. I want my curtains back up. That's not really an unreasonable thing to want. Also, God knows what's going to happen when we put up the Christmas tree. We have had cats and Christmas trees before and know the precautions and how to keep things from getting trashed too much, but I asked my daughter why she couldn't have gotten something less destructive, like a wolverine maybe.
I'm at the end of my rope. If she pees on any bed or furniture one more time, she is going back to the girl that my daughter got her from. My kids know that, and they know that they were able to get me to let her back in and let her stay for another chance, but she isn't a cat we have had for long and like a member of the family or anything yet. I'm not ready to throw out my belongings for her, like I would for our dogs who we have had for years. In other words, there is only so far I'm willing to go for her right now. There is no telling if she will ever stop this or not, and my kids know and they do agree, that if it's a choice between things that will be ruined by her, that we can't replace, or giving her back to the girl we got her from, it's bye bye kitty. I'm only telling them we will have to give her back to the girl, not putting her in a sack and taking her to the river. (which no, I wouldn't do anyway) We live out in the country, in a very small town in the middle of nowhere. Cats are all over the place, for a dime a dozen. You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting, well, a litter of kittens somebody is trying to give away. She could get another cat or even another bunny since her bunny died at the end of the summer. It's up to her. But there is only so much I'm willing to let slide before I say she has to go. It's not like she's a cherished family pet for years and is now sick and I'm giving her away. That's a different story altogether. You make accommodations for pets you have had for years. But to let the destructiveness and peeing go on without stopping it would be irresponsible of me.
ETA: I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate your advice. I do. Very much. Thank you for taking the time to give it to me. It may sound cold or mean but our belongings and furniture are a higher priority to me than a kitten we have had for a few months. My kids would get to that point as well, but it would only be after they saw that yes, I was right, their things are getting ruined. Then they would be without the kitten and without whatever else she decides to have a vendetta against this week.

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The problem with outside is she won't stop meowing and scratching at all the doors and windows. She did this for hours last time. Finally she climbed the tree right by the porch and got on the roof and my daughters fiancé got her down. Nobody can take hearing that for hours and hours.
That's still a kitten but at 4 months they can start getting into heat. I bet you anything that once she is spayed you will stop having all these problems. I had my kittens done at 4.5 months and they were complete terrors until then. Calmed right down afterwards. Otherwise, confine her to one room overnight with cat litter and food (but not too close to eachother) and some toys until you are able to get her to the vet. She is probably having a cat equivalent of teenage hormone rush. Some cats really are worse than others.
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That's still a kitten but at 4 months they can start getting into heat. I bet you anything that once she is spayed you will stop having all these problems. I had my kittens done at 4.5 months and they were complete terrors until then. Calmed right down afterwards. Otherwise, confine her to one room overnight with cat litter and food (but not too close to eachother) and some toys until you are able to get her to the vet. She is probably having a cat equivalent of teenage hormone rush. Some cats really are worse than others.
Here is what I seem to be having a problem getting across. I cannot take the cat to the vet to get fixed for a few months yet. We have other things we have to pay before that. We will take her when we take the dogs in for their yearly shots.
I do not have a room in my house that can be emptied of everything that I don't want chewed, torn or broken and that can be dedicated entirely to this cat for those few months.
Basically then, nothing can be done until we can get her fixed, or possibly find out what's bothering her? The girl can have her back then. My household cannot revolve around this.