How to get rid of religion & politic frustration w/ ppl
I'm not here to debate, otherwise this would be in the politic section. All of that NWO stuff and information on how everything is possibly a lie has been bombarding my mind for the past 4 years. The reason it bombards my mind has more to do with the fact that ppl tend to be illogical about it, tell me im wrong/nuts/paranoid/racist or 'these r just opinions' w/o ever researching the stuff at all. Now ppl can do or say/feel however they want, but now I just feel that it's time for me to walk away from these subjects all together forever because ppls reactions just get me so upset and I meltdown.
Sometimes I feel guilty about leaving the topics alone or feel that if someone in the future tells me about some of these things and I go "I don't want to talk about that stuff",they might get as upset as I do. but really I dont want to talk about it because it just upsets me the same. there arent many of these ppl out there bu they exist. but if I do explain why it frustrates me im afraid they'd go "u worry too much". then that starts a whole new cycle of pissed off thoughts.
So now I feel my only option is to just walk away from these subjects altogether, and just realize no one else really even knows about this stuff (Again im not saying these things r 100% correct, not looking for a debate. even posting this crap puts me at risk for frustration).
Has anyone on this forum successfully walked away from frustrating topics, never bring them up again or look them up, like politics, religion or anything else that's full of ppl being illogical to find that they eventually stopped thinking about altogether or much much less?
http://www.businessinsider.com/true-gov ... es-2013-12
http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-t ... hould-know
http://www.naturalnews.com/044385_medic ... usion.html
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/tim ... ut-be-true
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12 ... to-be-true
It seems more and more that certain historical "conspiracies" were, in fact, true. Even the term "conspiracy theory" was apparently a conspiracy http://www.memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/2 ... nized-term http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archi ... eOnly=true when, in 1967, the CIA published a "secret" dispatch which described that "[t]he aim of this dispatch is to provide material countering and discrediting the claims [about the Warren Commission] of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims...." The goal was clearly to denigrate any credibility that skeptics might enjoy about certain controversial matters including those that the links above have shown to be true regardless of any such CIA instruction to denigrate those who believed otherwise. In other words, insult and dismiss others' ideas, then insult and dismiss those who believe the ideas.
I find my own truths regardless of what my government calls me. Growing up gay and Aspie earned me a lifetime of namecalling. If that is the worst that those governments, whose illegal and unconstitutional activities have been admitted or discovered, can do, then I am already among those who are winning the debate not only about our history but also about our present and future. Therefore, I wouldn't ever "walk away" from my beliefs, ideas and opinions no matter what others say about me.
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I'm black & aspie and have been called so many names and derogatory names too, even the ones homosexuals and I'm not even gay. I understand where you are coming from. But I'm not walking away from my beliefs (stop believing in what I believe in), i'm just walking away from the actions or behavior like telling people and researching it, in hope that I'd eventually just STOP THINKING ABOUT IT either altogether or to a point where it's almost gone.
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I'm tired of everyday conversations about politics (and religion and art/music and, and, and...) I find that most people do not want a deep, thoughtful conversation that really examines various issues, which requires a bit of time and a respectful volley of ideas and opinions. Most people want a "sound byte" of an opinion, and if it doesn't match theirs, that's all the time you get. Then, from there, people feel they understand your opinion well enough to make a full judgment on it. With that much information, the response tends to be the quickest - an insult.
I will engage people in conversation on these topics only if they really want to go deep. If not, I just keep my mouth shut. It isn't worth getting into it because people don't want to know what I think. That doesn't mean I don't hold the values and beliefs that I have - I do. I just don't share them except with a very select few. And I mean a *very* select few.
Most people haven't seemed to show enough interest in me to spend enough time with me to hear me out. So, that's where things stand.
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I enjoy debate especially when it comes things that interest me and that I am passionate about but even I pick and choose my battles. Some people don't want to debate, for some it is a very emotional issue, you just have to try to read what type of reaction someone might have and whether or not its appropriate to talk about. You gotta know your audience. I wouldn't tolerate someone disrespecting or insulting me either, if that's how they respond I wouldn't bother talking with them. If it stresses me out just thinking about it and learning more doesn't make me feel better then I'd try to revert to some previous interest and just avoid the subject all together.
I have had to stop discussing those subjects for similar reasons. And really, even if you do discuss it, I don't think you ever change anyone's mind or even give them food for thought. Most people are too fixed in their thinking. I will usually answer direct questions, but leave it at that. As much as possible I try and embrace the 'live and let live' approach. And if you do avoid it I think the brooding over it also becomes lesser in time. Kind of out of sight out of mind.
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