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05 Dec 2015, 6:50 am

http://www.headlines-news.com/2015/12/0 ... y-agencies

I don't want to die, or experience deaths of loved ones because of this.

Looks like it's all out of everybody's control and so we, including the government, just has to sit back and let it happen.

I'm so terrified. I know I done a thread like this before but nobody realizes how terrified I am. The ISIS hates Britain, and wants us all dead.

So it's no good being happy any more, if all we've got to look forward to is death. Britain is the next target, and it looks like it's going to happen.

What if they drop a nuclear bomb in Britain and some of us get ill from the radiation poisoning? With that you are severely ill, vomiting, diarrhea, convulsions, in bad pain for weeks until you die.

Surely there are ways to prevent this from happening. And no "you're more likely to die in a car crash" or "you're more likely to get cancer and die" cliche is going to calm me down. Are the ISIS going to just come and bomb Britain off the face of the planet, or are there back-ups and other organizations to prevent this?

It's so scary. Of all the countries in the world, I have to live in the one the ISIS seems to be targeting the most.


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05 Dec 2015, 6:53 am

The only way to stop someone determined to kill you is to kill them first.


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05 Dec 2015, 6:54 am

ISIS don't have access to any nuclear weapons or any planes to drop them from so you don't have to worry about that particular situation.

It really is best just to live your life the best way you can.



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05 Dec 2015, 8:57 am

It's possible that you're overthinking this, Joe90.



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05 Dec 2015, 9:03 am

While statistically it's unlikely that you or I specifically will be a victim of a terrorist incident, I agree with you that living in the UK really IS a scary place to be right now. Because we are both a target country/ hated culture and also in fact a place where radicalization is a huge problem and some of the main characters in ISIS started out from OUR country.

Those are valid concerns and I relate to you feelings of fear. I feel the same way about ISIS. I've lived through stuff like being a child growing up in London while the IRA was setting off bombs to kill innocent Londoners and I remember asking my mum if I was going to die just because we were going into central London to see a show one night. But that now looks like a picnic to me.

ISIS is terrifying. It feels especially so in the UK because we do have such a deep problem with radicalization right here -- they don't even have to travel to us, there are cells right here who would have us dead.

I recently saw that documentary where an undercover woman attended ISIS women's meeting in which they were preaching hatred and a message of hating and crushing the "infidel" and that they would triumph over us ---- these meetings were taking place two miles from where I live.

It's frightening to know that I might be walking past someone with extremist views -- maybe even one of those women, since I'm in the neighbourhood -- when I go out TODAY to the shops. These are people who tweet about beheading random civilians "on the streets of London."

In the other direction I live another two miles from a known target they have already been known to want to hit. While we have to go on living our lives, there's no denying that's not a wonderful feeling.

I think Joe90 though you're better off being in Essex as it's more likely they will want to do something in a capital like London, where I am.

While the reality is that statistically I'm probably more likely to be struck by lightning than to become a victim of a terrorist attack, it's still not a wonderful feeling to be living in a place where it CAN happen among people who want to do such things, and who would -- if there were no resistance at all -- truly pursue taking over the culture, since that's basically what they want to do.

ISIS are terrifying in their ideology and I can't sugar coat much about that.



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05 Dec 2015, 3:37 pm

Once you stop running from and fearing death, and just accept whatever is going to come, you will have a chance to live. I could step out of my house and get plowed down by a bus, but if that is what is going to happen so be it, and I accept that. I can't live my life in fear of what may or may not happen, or I won't end up living regardless.



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05 Dec 2015, 4:02 pm

If all you think you have to look forward to is death then why not be happy with your family and loved ones now while you're all still alive?
Give and receive as much love as you can.
Don't let fear stop you from that at least.


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05 Dec 2015, 5:22 pm

The savages want you to be intimidated. That is their present goal. Do not be intimidated! Live your life in defiance of them and tyranny!


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05 Dec 2015, 6:01 pm

Please, please be happy! No one knows when they will die, so everyone has to live life to the fullest every day! :sunny: :flower: :D :heart:


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05 Dec 2015, 6:59 pm

If you're outside of london, you'll be fine. ISIS can't be bothered to attack Hastings.

If you're in London, just remind yourself that more cyclists died in London from accidents over the same period than British soldiers died in Afghanistan/Iraq.[edit: only referring to the last 14 years of conflict, or as the people of afghanistan like to call it: round 3 ]
The pollution, the stress, just crossing the street is more dangerous. Isis is only such a scare because they manage to kill 100 in one spot, but traffic kills a similar amount in the same day.

But, strangely, I can relate to your fears. They are justified. Take a holiday in scotland, go hiking. Loch lomond area. Life appeared quite different there, after I had a breakdown/depression/panic attacks in London, just from it being regular London.


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05 Dec 2015, 7:27 pm

Telling someone not to worry doesn't help. Your best bet is to find like-minded people to be around.


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05 Dec 2015, 8:42 pm

You're saying that, but I guess this would be one of those cases where watzlawick would prescribe an "irrational" solution. As in the case of the agoraphobic, who decides to kill himself by going outside, only to find himself cured.
Not exactly the same, but going about one's daily life, or taking a short trip, to clear one's head, can reassure one that the world is still standing.


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05 Dec 2015, 8:50 pm

Well, this is great.....

I just now found out that this has happened AT MY LOCAL TUBE STATION just this evening. Someone just got stabbed in the neck at at the busy station and the attacker was heard to yell that it was for Syria. I was in this area just two hours before this happened. Freaking wonderful.

Stabbing

This is why there is some validity to worrying about these things in the UK today, especially in London.

I'm angry. I do NOT want to die at the hands of these mutherfckrs.



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06 Dec 2015, 5:09 am

At times like this it is very hard not to be frightened by it, and I'm speaking for people without anxiety disorder, so somebody like me with an anxiety disorder WILL be more affected.

I think it's become beyond "the terrorists win if you are afraid of them" thing, because they just strike anyway, when people ARE going about their business and not being afraid. I think now the terrorists WANT us to happily go out and do things like shopping at busy malls, because that will make it easier for them to kill more people.

When you have an anxiety disorder, you do assume the worst. It's hard to say "oh that won't happen to me", because nobody knows where will be bombed next or who will die next by a terrorist, and it's just so frightening.

I know London is the biggest target for them, but I have also heard of shopping malls experiencing a threat of a bomb, causing evacuation. Where I live is a big, busy place, with lots of shoppers and tourists and traffic, so they could be targeting this place next, for all I know.

I know other things can cause me to die, like a car accident or a tree falling or even just choking on food, but hearing so much "breaking news" headlines about ISIS on newspapers, on the telly, and all over the internet, really makes it more frightening. What if some Syrian maniac targets me with a knife next? I mean, why was that poor man in London targeted?


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06 Dec 2015, 7:50 am

The most frightening thing about ISIS is that radicalized individuals and cell groups are in fact everywhere. It's not like they are just a concentrated bunch of people in Syria -- there are radicalized extremists living and operating right in Western countries, some home-grown. This is a problem with much deeper roots than this thread is about but yeah, the net result is these people are walking around among us and they hate us.

That random victim in my tube station could have been me walking past on my way to the trains -- that was all he was doing. And what's really messed up is civilians targeted like this are innocent people. Some may even have just attended and ANTI-bombing rally, and do not back the government's decisions at all and don't want the innocent lives lost THERE either. But the extremists don't give a sht about that, they just want an eye for an eye -- which leaves everyone blind.

The attacker tried to stab others too. It was super busy there last night, I was shopping around the spot and it was packed with Christmas shoppers and Saturday night goings-out. Thank god for small mercies he didn't have firearms or hundreds could have been mown down dead.

But this is still fcked up. It's not like the second world war where the enemy we were fighting were neatly in designated areas and the "rules" of war were abided by. This is a cancerous growth of people embedded within our society.

There also seem to be no answers -- bombing Syria; well we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The deeper roots to the entire extremist movement -- there's no turning back that clock. I do know, though, that the refugee situation is a massive Trojan Horse and nobody seems to be addressing that. There is a clip out of there of a so-called refugee passing through one of the "Welcome!" camps -- he leers grinning into the camera and slowly performs the gesture of drawing a knife across his throat. Says it all.

I wanted to add, I realize none of this is very comforting, and I apologize about that! :oops: But I'm just trying to express that I hear you, Joe90, and I totally understand your fears because I'm experiencing them too. I want to validate that you don't just have "no reason" to feel these fears. You do and it's totally understandable.



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06 Dec 2015, 9:23 am

BirdInFlight wrote:
Well, this is great.....

I just now found out that this has happened AT MY LOCAL TUBE STATION just this evening. Someone just got stabbed in the neck at at the busy station and the attacker was heard to yell that it was for Syria. I was in this area just two hours before this happened. Freaking wonderful.

Stabbing

This is why there is some validity to worrying about these things in the UK today, especially in London.

I'm angry. I do NOT want to die at the hands of these mutherfckrs.


I know the tube station you mean, it prevented me going home last night. I reckon that bloke was just some random nutjob.

I also think our own government is trying to scare us. Scared people are easier to convince. That article mentioning things like there is a "severe" terrorist threat is OTT. London has had its share of bombs and nutters but the risk isn't severe.


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