Being honest about suicide

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ahayes
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23 Apr 2007, 3:28 am

There's this survey that the psychology clinic does and one of the questions is about suicide the options are:

1)I haven't thought about suicide
2)I have though about suicide but would never do it
3)I would like to kill myself
4)I am going to kill myself

I've always checked '1' for fear if I check where I'm really at '3' I would be institutionalized. Should I keep suppressing the truth?



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23 Apr 2007, 3:44 am

I effectively checked 3, and they didn't institutionalize me.
There was no "would never do it option" though. It did lead
to a whole series of questions, which probably didn't lead
to where they wanted to go, in terms of dealing with my
problems.



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23 Apr 2007, 4:33 am

hmmm...as long as you don't say 'I'm gonna do it,' or actually make an attempt...I don't think they will institutionalize you...just make it clear that it is an ideation not an intention...
but then, I admit there is a gray area because when someone says 'I would like to' it should be taken seriously because they really mean it...
I just hope that everything turns out well for you and that WP will be of some help...
Although I'm not that older than you are and I probably don't qualify to give advices, I think as we grow old and grow neurons or neurological circuits in our brains, our outlooks on life and the chemical structures in our brains do change...
You're in your early twenties...gosh, I was a mess (and to some degree still am) back then...I would like to re-live my twenties...but maintaing my current level of maturity and situation...
I think concentrating on things you like or enjoy helps...
Also, they say being happy requires practice...it's something that has to be learned, not something that is given from outside...



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23 Apr 2007, 4:47 am

sunnycat wrote:
hmmm...as long as you don't say 'I'm gonna do it,' or actually make an attempt...I don't think they will institutionalize you...just make it clear that it is an ideation not an intention...
but then, I admit there is a gray area because when someone says 'I would like to' it should be taken seriously because they really mean it...
I just hope that everything turns out well for you and that WP will be of some help...
Although I'm not that older than you are and I probably don't qualify to give advices, I think as we grow old and grow neurons or neurological circuits in our brains, our outlooks on life and the chemical structures in our brains do change...
You're in your early twenties...gosh, I was a mess (and to some degree still am) back then...I would like to re-live my twenties...but maintaing my current level of maturity and situation...
I think concentrating on things you like or enjoy helps...
Also, they say being happy requires practice...it's something that has to be learned, not something that is given from outside...


I thought you were my age. :?



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23 Apr 2007, 4:52 am

I'm 27...:)



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23 Apr 2007, 5:32 am

I have thought about it sometimes (in fact, there was one particularly worrying episode last year where I seriously wondered what my brains would look like splattered against the wall), but I don't think I'd ever be depressed/upset/angry with how rubbish my life is to actually go through with it.


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23 Apr 2007, 6:59 am

I tick 4
It is the get-out-clause that helps me to get through bad times knowing I can end it whenever I want. I have picked my spot (very picturesque). At the moment life is interesting though.


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23 Apr 2007, 7:36 am

Every time I speak to a professional I tick 3 (or tell them this when they ask), but then I have to reassure them that I couldn't (I could NEVER do that to my mum) because they kind of sit upright and seem like they're going to take some action.



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23 Apr 2007, 8:18 am

I think you should check 2, that way you can talk about your suicidal thoughts but stand firm that you would never do it. With this whole Cho thing (I assume you are at a univ. clinic) they're probably going to be more stringent in categorizing risks.



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23 Apr 2007, 8:37 am

There was a time when I was embarrassed and and answered "1" but now I always answer "2."



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23 Apr 2007, 10:37 am

2, which makes me that tad bit more pathetic.


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23 Apr 2007, 11:17 am

i dont feel any of those options would fit me appropriately. I mean yes, im fine and am not suicidal. However, i was suicidal before and tried it before. they should have an option for that.



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23 Apr 2007, 11:20 am

Number 2 but I have attempted suicide however I didn't really mean it.



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23 Apr 2007, 12:18 pm

My experience was to always check 1, but I did talk to the doctor personally once when I had to tell someone. That little statement is much too vague, plus its a permanent record in writing. Talking to someone in person about it will give a much better idea about how you actually feel and exactly the help that you´ll need. Plus, you can always explain that you don´t need to be institutionalized, that you only need help. If that is the case of course. So, don´t surpress the truth, but don´t let a tiny little statement explain the totality of your situation either.


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23 Apr 2007, 1:02 pm

I agree^^

I have thought about killing myself last year, so i would have too check 2. But i could never done it too both my family and "friends", it was only in my darkest and most depressed periode(last year).



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24 Apr 2007, 2:34 am

sunnycat wrote:
I'm 27...:)


You looked so young in your picture.
I'm shocked.