So sick and tired of anxiety, and of my parents

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29 Jan 2016, 12:57 pm

[A little intro, since I haven't posted on here in a while. My name is Hannah, I'm 28 years old, and in addition to Asperger's Syndrome, I also have social anxiety, general anxiety disorder, selective mutism, hypochondria, dermatillomania, depression, and suicidal ideation. I live with my parents and I have a small part-time work-from-home job and am also on SSI, though those two things don't give me much of an income at all.]

So, lately, my anxiety has gotten overwhelming, to the point where I can't do much of anything most days without my anxiety getting triggered. And this, in turn, is due in large part to my parents, especially my mother. She's always been incredibly controlling of me, not in a mean way, but in a "she's so worried about me that she wants to try to prevent me from any sort of harm" way. And her controlling behavior is also due, in part, to her needing to manage her own anxiety issues. How does she control me, you ask? Well...

--She has told me that I'm not allowed to try any new meds right now, since the last time I tried new meds, I freaked her out due to all of my worrying about side effects. This, in turn, means that I'm stuck taking 10 mg of Paxil, which doesn't even help me much at all. (And increasing my dosage just causes me tons of unpleasant side effects.)

--She has told me that I'm not allowed to talk about her or my father with people online (so I guess this post in and of itself is against her rules), since she doesn't want anyone to think badly of her.

--She has told me that it makes her uncomfortable when I talk about her with my therapist. (Now, I'm afraid to talk about her with my therapist anymore, since the last thing I want is to intentionally anger my mom.)

--She has told me that she really doesn't want me to try vlogging, since she doesn't want complete strangers to see our house, nor do she and my dad want to be part of a vlog. So they squashed that dream of mine.

--She thinks it's wrong for me to ever skip meals, even when I'm feeling too anxious (and nauseous) to eat much of anything. This, in turn, has led to my acid reflux being worse than it has to be, since I often force myself to eat a full meal when I feel nauseous, and that just causes me to have a horrible reflux flare-up. She also is really pushy about eating in general, and she thinks that food is the solution to all of life's problems, and I've developed overeating problems as a result of her pushing that view on me.

I really wish I could move out, but it's just not feasible for me right now, since the cost of living here in Massachusetts is so damned high. Nor can I find a group housing program that I feel comfortable with, and that's willing to take in a person with as many problems as I have (and trust me, I've looked at quite a few). So I really feel stuck living with my parents, and that's just making my anxiety so much worse than it needs to be.

Any advice?


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29 Jan 2016, 2:06 pm

You're 28. Tell your mother to mind her own freaking business, already. You've got to stick up for yourself before you'll ever be able to be independent.

You get to decide what meds to take, whom to talk with about your family, when and what you're going to eat, etc.

She cannot prevent you from doing those things, so why are you letting her? I don't care if she has a crying fit, a temper tantrum, tries to make you feel guilty, whatever. It's all controlling behavior and is designed to keep you doing what she wants. Stand up for yourself, and ignore her reaction.

Do you want to be living there when you're 40? Get yourself the meds you need to get the heck out of there!



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29 Jan 2016, 5:04 pm

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You're 28. Tell your mother to mind her own freaking business, already. You've got to stick up for yourself before you'll ever be able to be independent.

You get to decide what meds to take, whom to talk with about your family, when and what you're going to eat, etc.

She cannot prevent you from doing those things, so why are you letting her? I don't care if she has a crying fit, a temper tantrum, tries to make you feel guilty, whatever. It's all controlling behavior and is designed to keep you doing what she wants. Stand up for yourself, and ignore her reaction.

Do you want to be living there when you're 40? Get yourself the meds you need to get the heck out of there!

I can't just get myself the heck out of there, since the cost of living is so high where I live, and I don't make nearly enough to be able to support myself. Did you miss that part of my post?

And my mom and dad are currently my only support system, so I'm afraid of pissing them off, since they could easily kick me out if I did so, and then I'd be homeless and completely alone.

It really seems like you don't care about my well-being at all, since you seem to want me to do things that would end up being harmful for me in the long run. And, if you don't care about my well-being, then why did you reply to my post?


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29 Jan 2016, 5:27 pm

Boston is super expensive, and for an aspie like, say, myself, who needs at least an efficiency apt since I can't stand living with other people who I don't know always invading my personal space, such a city is simply undoable in terms of moving out.

That said, you do need to stand up to your parents a bit. You need to tell your mom that you can and will say whatever you like to your therapist, and leave it at that. Therapists are bound by strict confidentiality rules, so if you tell your therapist not to talk to your mom, your therapist HAS to do as you say.

As for vlogging, you don't have to do like Chris Chan and give video tours of your house, indeed you really shouldn't. You can always do videos with some neutral background behind you like a large bedsheet. Or you could try blogging with just text instead of video.

As for talking about her online, she doesn't have to know, you really shouldn't tell names of people you are talking about online anyway, you can use initials or something and simply not tell her what sites you are on.

You do need to tell her that you need to try different meds until you find one that helps, and she needs to accept that.

As for food, you need to tell her that you will not eat if you feel sick, and that it isn't a commentary on her or her cooking, but that you are sick right then and you will get sicker if you eat. It sounds like your parents are from a country like Italy or France where everything revolves around food, and all social situations are based on food.

I have a mom who is similar to yours in that she always wanted to "protect" me, I was a very sickly baby and I think she still feels guilt over having had such an ill child and still views me as that sick little infant who must be protected. I've had to fight her all through my adulthood, and I'm 41!



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29 Jan 2016, 5:34 pm

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Boston is super expensive, and for an aspie like, say, myself, who needs at least an efficiency apt since I can't stand living with other people who I don't know always invading my personal space, such a city is simply undoable in terms of moving out.

That said, you do need to stand up to your parents a bit. You need to tell your mom that you can and will say whatever you like to your therapist, and leave it at that. Therapists are bound by strict confidentiality rules, so if you tell your therapist not to talk to your mom, your therapist HAS to do as you say.

As for vlogging, you don't have to do like Chris Chan and give video tours of your house, indeed you really shouldn't. You can always do videos with some neutral background behind you like a large bedsheet. Or you could try blogging with just text instead of video.

As for talking about her online, she doesn't have to know, you really shouldn't tell names of people you are talking about online anyway, you can use initials or something and simply not tell her what sites you are on.

You do need to tell her that you need to try different meds until you find one that helps, and she needs to accept that.

As for food, you need to tell her that you will not eat if you feel sick, and that it isn't a commentary on her or her cooking, but that you are sick right then and you will get sicker if you eat. It sounds like your parents are from a country like Italy or France where everything revolves around food, and all social situations are based on food.

I have a mom who is similar to yours in that she always wanted to "protect" me, I was a very sickly baby and I think she still feels guilt over having had such an ill child and still views me as that sick little infant who must be protected. I've had to fight her all through my adulthood, and I'm 41!

I do keep a lot from my mother (especially in terms of talking about her online and to my therapist), but I just feel guilty about having to lie to her, especially since my parents have brought me up to think that lying is one of the worst things that a person can do. How do you suggest I deal with that guilt?

And what could I possibly do about the fact that living here in Massachusetts is so damned expensive? I really, really do want to move out, but I just don't see any way that I possibly could do so, and that just stresses me out.

As for eating, it's not like she forces me to eat a lot, but I've just become an overeater on my own, to the point where it's hard for me not to eat too much, especially when I'm stressed. So I resent my mom (who's an overeater herself) for passing that habit on to me, and I really wish there were some easy way for me to overcome it, especially since it's horrible for my acid reflux when I overeat.

And as for my meds, she's very firm in her stance that I not try any more right now. Trust me, I've talked to her about that many times, and she refuses to budge.

Sorry I'm turning down so much of your advice, by the way. I don't mean to be annoying in doing so. It's just that I have tried a lot of the things you've suggested, and a lot of them just haven't worked for me.


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29 Jan 2016, 5:41 pm

Yayyyyyyyyyyy!! !! !! I'm so happy you came back, Hannah! Welcome back! :D

I'm not an expert on advice, so please disregard what I'm saying if you think it won't work.

First, it's totally understandable why you feel this way. Certainly at your age, you don't want your parents hanging over you, and being overprotective. If you can, try to talk to your mum about this. Tell her why you think you might need new meds etc., and then e.g. maybe go to your doctor and tell them about your anxiety and they might be able to prescribe a new med to you.

I hope think will work out for you.

Hugs :D



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29 Jan 2016, 5:43 pm

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Yayyyyyyyyyyy!! ! ! ! ! I'm so happy you came back, Hannah! Welcome back! :D

I'm not an expert on advice, so please disregard what I'm saying if you think it won't work.

First, it's totally understandable why you feel this way. Certainly at your age, you don't want your parents hanging over you, and being overprotective. If you can, try to talk to your mum about this. Tell her why you think you might need new meds etc., and then e.g. maybe go to your doctor and tell them about your anxiety and they might be able to prescribe a new med to you.

I hope think will work out for you.

Hugs :D

I have talked to my mom about this, many times, and she's really firm in her stance that I not try any more meds. And I'd rather not anger her by deliberately ignoring her and trying new meds anyways. After all, she and my dad are currently my only support system, and I don't want to risk pissing them off so much that they decide to kick me out.


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29 Jan 2016, 6:41 pm

quiet_dove wrote:
I do keep a lot from my mother (especially in terms of talking about her online and to my therapist), but I just feel guilty about having to lie to her, especially since my parents have brought me up to think that lying is one of the worst things that a person can do. How do you suggest I deal with that guilt?


A quick thought about this particular paragraphy before I have to rush off...

I know how you feel about lying. I struggle even with the socially acceptable white lie. However, lying and keeping your private life away from your mum are two entirely separate things. Think about it this way: do you think your mum shares everything about her life with you? I rather doubt it.

It goes both ways. Just as she doesn't tell you everything, you don't have to tell her everything either. You're entitled to your privacy, especially as an adult.

She sounds like the kind of person who will ask you specifically what you're up to. Come up with some stock replies for when she does. Be polite but firm. You need to start being more assertive with her. Note that this is not the same as being rude. I'd start by asking your therapist for assistance with ways you can do this.



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29 Jan 2016, 8:44 pm

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Yigeren wrote:
You're 28. Tell your mother to mind her own freaking business, already. You've got to stick up for yourself before you'll ever be able to be independent.

You get to decide what meds to take, whom to talk with about your family, when and what you're going to eat, etc.

She cannot prevent you from doing those things, so why are you letting her? I don't care if she has a crying fit, a temper tantrum, tries to make you feel guilty, whatever. It's all controlling behavior and is designed to keep you doing what she wants. Stand up for yourself, and ignore her reaction.

Do you want to be living there when you're 40? Get yourself the meds you need to get the heck out of there!

I can't just get myself the heck out of there, since the cost of living is so high where I live, and I don't make nearly enough to be able to support myself. Did you miss that part of my post?

And my mom and dad are currently my only support system, so I'm afraid of pissing them off, since they could easily kick me out if I did so, and then I'd be homeless and completely alone.

It really seems like you don't care about my well-being at all, since you seem to want me to do things that would end up being harmful for me in the long run. And, if you don't care about my well-being, then why did you reply to my post?


I'm telling you to stand up for yourself. That is not going to be harmful for you in the long run.

I know what I'm talking about from personal experience. Your mother and father have you on a leash. You need to remind them that you are an adult, otherwise they won't ever treat you like one.

If your mother kicked you out, she wouldn't be able to control you anymore. I seriously doubt it would happen.

If your meds are the key to independence, then get them. I do know someone who is under her mother's thumb at the age of 30. She'll likely be there until her parents die, because she is passive and has no life skills.

I know a lot more than you think I do about these situations, but if you don't want to take my advice, then don't.