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11 Apr 2007, 5:28 pm

I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem. I am way, way too easily emotionally affected, to the point where it gives other people power over me. If somebody says something that upsets me, it doesn't go through my thoughts first, it goes directly to my heart and upsets me instantly. Phrases like "don't let it get to you" or "no point being upset over that" make no sense to me, because it's never a choice to let it bother me or not. It makes as much sense to me as someone saying "If someone shoots a bullet at you, don't let it hit you". You'd hardly have much choice not to let a bullet penetrate your body, it goes with such force you can't stop it. I just can't "think" my way out of being upset the way NTs can.

This is a large part of why I've become so insecure and why I'm afraid to leave the house. Even going to class can provoke a panic attack if someone shoots down one of my points or a controversial topic is brought up. I probably sound like a spoiled, whiny child saying this, but I really am that easily hurt and that afraid. It's become almost crippling - a bit like having severe osteoporosis and being able to be incapacitated by the slightest injury.

Does anyone else experience this, or have any advice?



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11 Apr 2007, 5:38 pm

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I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem. I am way, way too easily emotionally affected, to the point where it gives other people power over me. If somebody says something that upsets me, it doesn't go through my thoughts first, it goes directly to my heart and upsets me instantly. Phrases like "don't let it get to you" or "no point being upset over that" make no sense to me, because it's never a choice to let it bother me or not. It makes as much sense to me as someone saying "If someone shoots a bullet at you, don't let it hit you". You'd hardly have much choice not to let a bullet penetrate your body, it goes with such force you can't stop it. I just can't "think" my way out of being upset the way NTs can.

This is a large part of why I've become so insecure and why I'm afraid to leave the house. Even going to class can provoke a panic attack if someone shoots down one of my points or a controversial topic is brought up. I probably sound like a spoiled, whiny child saying this, but I really am that easily hurt and that afraid. It's become almost crippling - a bit like having severe osteoporosis and being able to be incapacitated by the slightest injury.

Does anyone else experience this, or have any advice?

I can be overly sensitive to things as well. When people disagree with me or criticize me, I don't think about what it is they're saying or in what context, so even if they meant it in a constructive way, I take it too personally. Sometimes I don't even know why things people say upset me, they just do for no obvious reason.
I don't know what advice to offer you though because I have the same problem :? Maybe just to try and think about what it is people mean, because a lot of the time I take things the wrong way apparently. I hope you find some way of dealing with it anyway.



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11 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

Yes, too sensitive and no matter how often I am hurt and vow to develop a thicker skin, it doesn't seem to change. I abhor that others can affect my emotions so easily.


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11 Apr 2007, 6:27 pm

chairbreak wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem. I am way, way too easily emotionally affected, to the point where it gives other people power over me. If somebody says something that upsets me, it doesn't go through my thoughts first, it goes directly to my heart and upsets me instantly. Phrases like "don't let it get to you" or "no point being upset over that" make no sense to me, because it's never a choice to let it bother me or not. It makes as much sense to me as someone saying "If someone shoots a bullet at you, don't let it hit you". You'd hardly have much choice not to let a bullet penetrate your body, it goes with such force you can't stop it. I just can't "think" my way out of being upset the way NTs can.

This is a large part of why I've become so insecure and why I'm afraid to leave the house. Even going to class can provoke a panic attack if someone shoots down one of my points or a controversial topic is brought up. I probably sound like a spoiled, whiny child saying this, but I really am that easily hurt and that afraid. It's become almost crippling - a bit like having severe osteoporosis and being able to be incapacitated by the slightest injury.

Does anyone else experience this, or have any advice?


i'm quoting this because i am exactly like this. the good thing is knowing there's someone else. the bad news is i'm old and i still haven't figured out how to not be this way.



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11 Apr 2007, 6:59 pm

Yep, this is exactly how I am...and I hate it. I'm curious to see how many more females respond to this post and say they're like this too. So far it looks like it might be a common female Aspie problem. I wish I had some advice for you, but I definitely have yet to learn how to deal with being so sensitive.



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11 Apr 2007, 7:29 pm

Yeah, I get over emotional. Someone will say something that upsets me, and it just takes over my conscience. I can't sleep or concentrate on anything. It usually takes a good day or two before I completely come down from getting upset.

My dad is exact opposite. He can go from one emotion to the next with no trouble. I hated him for that as a child, because he would lose his temper and be yelling one minute, and the next he would be calm and talking to my mom like nothing had happened.



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11 Apr 2007, 7:35 pm

I do think this has something to do with "black and white " thinking....everything is all or nothing....they either hate you or like you,so any negative response is seen as....they hate me.ANd every time I get the sense "they hate me"....my thought pattern use to be very extreme......I might as well kill myself,no one will ever like me,everyone hates me.....this is an issue of cognitive response and can be changed by recognising when it is happening and trying to replace it with a more "realistic" message.....
"someone did not agree with my idea."<----thats reality.It takes practice to change the natural response to out counter productive messages(internal dialogue)but it is the first step and can be changed a little(offer some relief from the anxiety).


I also think that we "accumulate".....never let anything go.....so every time we hear a negative message....it isnt in isolation but a pattern of negative messages.They add up(or multiply)each other.

You might be interested in reading some theories of "Rational Emotive Therapy"....I dont agree with it all,but some of it has been helpful.


I tend to have both responses.Over react to the smallest "slight" and sort of an indifference to what others think or feel about me.......I dont respect them,so why do I care what they think about my ideas?It is usually only people I like or respect who hurt my feelings....then it is way out of proportion and I feel depressed,usless,hopeless....yuck,I'm working on it.


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11 Apr 2007, 7:49 pm

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I do think this has something to do with "black and white " thinking....everything is all or nothing....they either hate you or like you,so any negative response is seen as....they hate me.ANd every time I get the sense "they hate me"....my thought pattern use to be very extreme......I might as well kill myself,no one will ever like me,everyone hates me.....this is an issue of cognitive response and can be changed by recognising when it is happening and trying to replace it with a more "realistic" message.....

That's kind of how I feel actually. I always assume people either like me or hate me, when in reality a lot of people probably don't have a particularly strong view either way. I find it difficult to accept that someone might actually still like me even if they disagree with me sometimes.



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11 Apr 2007, 7:52 pm

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krex wrote:
I do think this has something to do with "black and white " thinking....everything is all or nothing....they either hate you or like you,so any negative response is seen as....they hate me.ANd every time I get the sense "they hate me"....my thought pattern use to be very extreme......I might as well kill myself,no one will ever like me,everyone hates me.....this is an issue of cognitive response and can be changed by recognising when it is happening and trying to replace it with a more "realistic" message.....

That's kind of how I feel actually. I always assume people either like me or hate me, when in reality a lot of people probably don't have a particularly strong view either way. I find it difficult to accept that someone might actually still like me even if they disagree with me sometimes.



Ditto. For me the worst thing is, when I feel I have upset or annoyed someone, I will become so afraid of angry words or rejection that I will essentially find myself too afraid to contact them again. To my mind, they would not wish to hear from me again once I have upset or annoyed them, no matter how close we were to begin with. I have very little trust of people in that sense.


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11 Apr 2007, 7:57 pm

krex wrote:
I do think this has something to do with "black and white " thinking....everything is all or nothing....they either hate you or like you,so any negative response is seen as....they hate me.ANd every time I get the sense "they hate me"....my thought pattern use to be very extreme......I might as well kill myself,no one will ever like me,everyone hates me.....this is an issue of cognitive response and can be changed by recognising when it is happening and trying to replace it with a more "realistic" message.....


I think you hit the nail on the head. I think this is part of "theory of mind" which aspies are supposed to have trouble with. I spent the weekend being taught by MS about TOM. In fact, I had an incident occur very similar to what Krex describes. I was visiting his relatives whom I usually get along with fine, they disagreed with me, I had to leave the room and I was so upset and it degenerated into what a horrible person I was that I actually had a vision of slitting my throat. Sounds ridiculous and overdramatic now, but it's the truth. I want a brain transplant so crap like this doesn't happen.

The lesson I was told was that people can like you and care about you but that doesn't mean that they will do something for you if they don't want to. What I had been thinking was "If they cared about me they'd do 'x' for me". So lesson learned to some extent. Will it keep it from happening in the future? I don't know.

So Krex, this rational emotive stuff, is it helpful with theory of mind type stuff? Have you tried it and had it work in real life situations?



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11 Apr 2007, 7:59 pm

I'm afraid of rejection as well. It's weird because in general I don't care what people think about me anymore, but then in individual cases I seem to take things really personally and be bothered by it more than most people.



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11 Apr 2007, 8:00 pm

Sopho_soph wrote:
I find it difficult to accept that someone might actually still like me even if they disagree with me sometimes.


Me too.

I also have a hard time being ignored. I assume if I'm ignored it's because people don't like me. So I assume pretty much the whole world doesn't like me.

Sign me up for a lobotomy, please. :cry:



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11 Apr 2007, 8:01 pm

I feel like I am either 1000x too sensitive or just "blank," unaffected even when I should be.



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11 Apr 2007, 8:13 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
[when I feel I have upset or annoyed someone, I will become so afraid of angry words or rejection that I will essentially find myself too afraid to contact them again.


Same here. I have an email from my boss, and I won't read it because she pissed me off in the past so I've been hiding from her. I can't imagine she has anything good to say. I'm going to let MS read it and screen it for me.

By the way, if any of you are interested, Immortal showed me how to block specific users. If there are certain users here that always bug you or you feel harassed, you can have the page read normallly but without that users post. I started using it today and it sure is pleasant to be able to read any thread without worrying about a certain few. If anybody is interested, I'll post the links and instructions on this thread.



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11 Apr 2007, 8:22 pm

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Graelwyn wrote:
[when I feel I have upset or annoyed someone, I will become so afraid of angry words or rejection that I will essentially find myself too afraid to contact them again.


Same here. I have an email from my boss, and I won't read it because she pissed me off in the past so I've been hiding from her. I can't imagine she has anything good to say. I'm going to let MS read it and screen it for me.


Totally the same. If I have had issues with someone, I tend to in the past have got someone else to read the email for me and tell me if it is bad. If I think I have been a little too honest in a post, I will become afraid to look at that thread and see what has been posted back to me. As a result, I am prone to holding back a lot of things I want to say. Safer that way, but not being true to myself.


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11 Apr 2007, 8:25 pm

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If I think I have been a little too honest in a post, I will become afraid to look at that thread and see what has been posted back to me. As a result, I am prone to holding back a lot of things I want to say. Safer that way, but not being true to myself.

I'm like that. Not online, but in person I hold back on saying things a lot. I always feel like I need to agree with everything people say as well because I'm afraid of disagreeing and then starting at argument. I don't worry about it as much on the internet because I have time to think through what I'm saying if someone did start arguing with me or something. But if I'm talking to someone in person I can't disagree with them, it's infuriating :?