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02 Nov 2016, 6:37 pm

Never thought I'd be forever alone at 28 sooner to be 29. Only able to work min wage part time.
I don't see any reason to keep living.
It's so depressing leaving my house and seeing women and depressing staying home.

I exist for no reason other thing existing pointlessly and I'm tired of it and don't want to do another 30 years of this horrible s**t :cry:



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02 Nov 2016, 6:41 pm

Have to remind myself not to smile when I feel any kind of happiness



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02 Nov 2016, 6:52 pm

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don't want to do another 30 years of this horrible s**t :cry:


Do something else then. Make a new plan. Let go of the old plan if it isn't working out.

There's no law that says you have to work more than minimum wage part time. Don't measure yourself against unnecessary rules.



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02 Nov 2016, 6:57 pm

Well, hell, I'm not where I thought I would be in life either.
You can either wallow in woe or suck it up and make the best of it.
I tend to alternate between the two.
Yesterday absolutely sucked, but today I feel a little bit better.
I'm allowing myself to smile because it's better than crying.
What's the point of crying for the rest of my life?
No one really cares anyway.


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02 Nov 2016, 7:12 pm

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don't want to do another 30 years of this horrible s**t :cry:


Do something else then. Make a new plan. Let go of the old plan if it isn't working out.

There's no law that says you have to work more than minimum wage part time. Don't measure yourself against unnecessary rules.


I've already beeen through all my possible plan and none of them worked out so I just exist for nothing and mope to work and home

No but it's engraved in society that it's bad to work min wage and such men who do aren't worth dating.

I want a gf to love and be loved by. It'd make the rest bearable



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02 Nov 2016, 7:16 pm

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Well, hell, I'm not where I thought I would be in life either.
You can either wallow in woe or suck it up and make the best of it.
I tend to alternate between the two.
Yesterday absolutely sucked, but today I feel a little bit better.
I'm allowing myself to smile because it's better than crying.
What's the point of crying for the rest of my life?
No one really cares anyway.


I have ok days but I never have good days.
Putting on a front or sucking it up as you say gets tiring , I've been doing it for 12 years or so all while seeing all these happy people in their relationships it's just too much and I can't take it so I cry cause I can't help it :(



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02 Nov 2016, 7:20 pm

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I've already beeen through all my possible plan and none of them worked out so I just exist for nothing and mope to work and home

No but it's engraved in society that it's bad to work min wage and such men who do aren't worth dating.

I want a gf to love and be loved by. It'd make the rest bearable


Well, there's no law that says you have to have a plan. Maybe you just need time for a new one. Maybe you can just focus on smelling the flowers for a while. A plan can be anything. It could be going for a walk everyday for the next week. It doesn't have to be a huge agenda with your whole life mapped out. You can do things that are worthwhile even if you don't earn money for them.

You don't have to agree with or follow people in society. And do you really want to date someone who cares more about arbitrary rules than your personality? Focus on making yourself (your personality, lifestyle, and outlook) lovable, that's a plan. Some people are willing to date drug addicts and even murderers. Working minimum wage part-time is no big deal compared to that.



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02 Nov 2016, 8:14 pm

Listen sly, In my opinion I feel you need to take control of your life and complain less. I'm sorry if that's negative. As I know the is 'the haven' and all. But you have to try to help your own situation no one else can help you but you.

Being alone sucks when you yearn for that in your life. You seem like a genuinely nice guy and women really really DO like that. However people (women) all have needs and unfortunately some are material. Have you ever tried to maybe learn a skill so you dont have to work for minimum wage? Take a little time to concentrate on something other than the fact that you dont have a woman in your life? Better yourself a bit? There has to be something you can learn to do that will allow you to make a more secure living, isnt there? It seems that a woman who wanted a really nice mellow guy would get along with you well but you still need to have a roof over your head right? And you dont expect her to pay for it do you? I mean plenty of women are fine with a 50/50 split, but you need to have your 50% reliably.

Sorry to be negative, but if you want things to change, you must try to make them change.



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02 Nov 2016, 10:16 pm

I went to school for 4 years and got a degree but I can't do automotive work. There's no games I guess back to college and I'm stuck with 11k debt from it.
I'd probably be good at a factory job or packing job. I'm good at seeing fine details and noticing defects in items. I also do better with repitive work compared to most others who yearn for variety
Sadly those jobs are all being replaced with robots making those left very competitive with lots of people with experience applying add to that that Oregon isn't known for such jobs and so there's very few of them already
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02 Nov 2016, 10:25 pm

starkid wrote:
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don't want to do another 30 years of this horrible s**t :cry:


Do something else then. Make a new plan. Let go of the old plan if it isn't working out.

There's no law that says you have to work more than minimum wage part time. Don't measure yourself against unnecessary rules.


Do something else? Like what? Jobs are s**t.
There are alternatives, of course there are, but they also have consequences. :skull: :skull: :skull:


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03 Nov 2016, 12:10 am

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I've already beeen through all my possible plan and none of them worked out so I just exist for nothing and mope to work and home

No but it's engraved in society that it's bad to work min wage and such men who do aren't worth dating.

I want a gf to love and be loved by. It'd make the rest bearable


Well, there's no law that says you have to have a plan. Maybe you just need time for a new one. Maybe you can just focus on smelling the flowers for a while. A plan can be anything. It could be going for a walk everyday for the next week. It doesn't have to be a huge agenda with your whole life mapped out. You can do things that are worthwhile even if you don't earn money for them.

You don't have to agree with or follow people in society. And do you really want to date someone who cares more about arbitrary rules than your personality? Focus on making yourself (your personality, lifestyle, and outlook) lovable, that's a plan. Some people are willing to date drug addicts and even murderers. Working minimum wage part-time is no big deal compared to that.

Well it's either date them or have no one to date. Most women in western society are that way.

I don't think that's what people think when they say have a plan for your life. All you suggested is just doing things. Buying some shave brushes wasn't a plan. I've given up on plans as they've all failed. I learned what's possible for normals isn't for me or other aspies. That whole live your dream or go to college and get a good job don't work out for most of us. It's made for nts and so we tend to fail fitting the required mold. Sure wish I'd known that I couldn't do mechanic work before going to school for it. Also wish the federal government wasn't allowed to violate their own anti discrimination laws and refuse aspies.

My personality is already super lovable. I have most if not all the personality traits lots of women say they desire on their ads or profiles. But they want that only if a guy makes enough first.

As for women dating drug addicts or drunks. They have very outgoing personalities . Like my cousIn who's in prison again. He Never had problems getting women. He's super arrogant and outgoing. Same with a abusive friend I use to have. Their relationships do nt tend last mind you.
I'm not able to go to a bar and walk up and try to ask it a lady there. I'm shy vs their outgoing. Same reason those other guys get girls. Their able to lie and deceive with their outgoing personality to trick women into dating them and by time they find out it was all a lie they already love them.
I'm simply unable to do that stuff. I'm not good at Lying since I find it immoral and when I've tried to avoid answering questions it's obvious I'm trying to do so. An aspie who sucks at socializing surprising lol.

Wish I could find a lady who fine with me being a loser and likes honestly and niaviety but such women either don't exist or we're taken quite quickly in high school or right after. There's lots of losers by very few women who'll date them supply and demand. Same reason most perfect guys are taken right away. Unless they enjoy sleeping around.

I dont know what to do. Everyone seemed to think getting this job would help but I knew it wouldn't and it hasn't women don't consider it a job :( right wingers say I'm stealing teenagers jobs.



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03 Nov 2016, 12:12 am

I_Heart_Unicorns wrote:
starkid wrote:
sly279 wrote:
don't want to do another 30 years of this horrible s**t :cry:


Do something else then. Make a new plan. Let go of the old plan if it isn't working out.

There's no law that says you have to work more than minimum wage part time. Don't measure yourself against unnecessary rules.



Do something else? Like what? Jobs are s**t.
There are alternatives, of course there are, but they also have consequences. :skull: :skull: :skull:


I wonder how one gets into a gang or drug dealing.



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03 Nov 2016, 3:59 am

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Listen sly, In my opinion I feel you need to take control of your life and complain less. I'm sorry if that's negative. As I know the is 'the haven' and all. But you have to try to help your own situation no one else can help you but you.

Being alone sucks when you yearn for that in your life. You seem like a genuinely nice guy and women really really DO like that. However people (women) all have needs and unfortunately some are material. Have you ever tried to maybe learn a skill so you dont have to work for minimum wage? Take a little time to concentrate on something other than the fact that you dont have a woman in your life? Better yourself a bit? There has to be something you can learn to do that will allow you to make a more secure living, isnt there? It seems that a woman who wanted a really nice mellow guy would get along with you well but you still need to have a roof over your head right? And you dont expect her to pay for it do you? I mean plenty of women are fine with a 50/50 split, but you need to have your 50% reliably.

Sorry to be negative, but if you want things to change, you must try to make them change.


He is well dressed and groomed, enjoys hunting, guns and camping, is educated, can drive, not a virgin and has a job.

What more could he do aside from move out of home and get a new/better car?

He's already in debt, and as you know damned near every job now requires a degree.

As he's complained multiple times, realistically the only jobs he can do are what he does now (badly, apparently) and simple repetitive factory jobs which, in this case, he truly is fvçked because of technology.

Besides, aren't laborer jobs more likely to be low pay and min. wage, which is what the ladies he's pursued consider unacceptable?

If there's any advice I can give Sly, it's to join social and Autism groups to just meet and befriend women for the sake of it then once he gets a real-life crush to try and get to know her.

I've noticed people's standards increase with online dating, which explains his tragically sad rejection rate, so meeting real women in the flesh is all he can do.

Even from middle aged adults I here dating was easier before online - people were more willing to overlook imperfections in a partner but now since people can get dates at the click of a button people are far more selective.

He needs a woman to fall in love with him as he is, not desperatly be stuck in this rut until he improves himself to fit the acceptable standards of the women online until they give even a reply to his message let alone a date.

Surely he helps his family pay the bills,, if he can do that he can live with a woman or friend. Whether his income is sufficient to live alone is another story.



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03 Nov 2016, 4:13 pm

For the record I don't hunt.
After housing assistance. I pay half the bills.
And I don't have a running car anymore so take the bus, not that I could afford to drive anyways.

The only autism social group meets at a church in the next town at 9pm when there's no bus home and I work most nights. I heard it's all middle aged men.
They have meet ups at a hard to get to bakery run by disabled people I tried to go once but no one talked to me and kept to their groups so I sat alone in the corner. It was also mostly men besides the lady working the cash register



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03 Nov 2016, 5:58 pm

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And do you really want to date someone who cares more about arbitrary rules than your personality?

Well it's either date them or have no one to date. Most women in western society are that way.


Well, maybe you are right. I don't know what hetero womyn are like, but I pity you all if it's true. I don't think most lesbians are like that, and I still don't understand why you would want to date someone like that. It seems a bit superficial. As long as a person isn't starving to death in the streets and has the basic comforts of life, I would consider her a potential date because I like people based on personality and I'm not attached to the material things of a middle-class lifestyle. And even if she was starving to death in the streets, I would try to help her, and would date her once she was stable if I liked her.

I have seen some personals ads in which womyn say that want someone who has a professional career. I think their values are warped. It's literally impossible for everyone to have a professional career because there aren't enough of those jobs available. They are rejecting people who couldn't afford to attend college, people who have mild learning disabilities, and people who went into the military or a skilled trade.

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I don't think that's what people think when they say have a plan for your life. All you suggested is just doing things. Buying some shave brushes wasn't a plan. I've given up on plans as they've all failed.


That's what I meant. Just live your life day by day instead of having grand long-term plans. You don't have to have any long-term plans.

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As for women dating drug addicts or drunks. They have very outgoing personalities .

You're probably right. I didn't think about that. But what about the quiet and introverted people who like quiet people? They're harder to find, but could be good dates.



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03 Nov 2016, 7:44 pm

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For the record I don't hunt.
After housing assistance. I pay half the bills.
And I don't have a running car anymore so take the bus, not that I could afford to drive anyways.

The only autism social group meets at a church in the next town at 9pm when there's no bus home and I work most nights. I heard it's all middle aged men.
They have meet ups at a hard to get to bakery run by disabled people I tried to go once but no one talked to me and kept to their groups so I sat alone in the corner. It was also mostly men besides the lady working the cash register


I know you always spoke about women giving you death stares in the past for even looking at them, but it might just be your low self-esteem, they thought you were being creepy at the time, or yes, you were right and they were.

How about practising your best smile in the mirror each day.

Ask family and acquaintances if the smile looks creepy or looks nice.

You work in retail, don't you? So the whole 'fake smile/politeness' thing is expected.

You could ask a co-worker or supervisor how your smile is.

That doesn't mean you have to force this smile at work, just saying they can give you feedback.

Try to practice so the smile is genuine and not forced. Think of something funny or makes you happy and let your face express itself in reaction.

How many girls or women have you asked out in real life?

Did you only ever get rejected?

It makes me wonder how you aren't a virgin, but that's a private thing you dont have to talk about how you got to the point you were with a woman in that situation.

Where am I going with this?

I think it's a good idea to start to ask women out in real-life.

But if you're too nervous to do that and have always been rejected or hurt, just try to make eye contact and give a friendly smile at a woman. Practice on any woman. Young, elderly, pretty girls, girls you not really attracted to, etc.

Only do it when you've practicsed and perfected it.

Yes, sometimes you will get negative reactions back. That's normal.

Don't do it on the bus. I will give you some places or situations you can do it later but cant right now.

Don't do it TOO often. Maybe one random woman a day depending on where you are/what your doing.

Finally, do you have at least one male or female friend who could introduce you to someone.

I know this seems like the same old advice, but it's all I've got.