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06 Nov 2016, 10:10 pm
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06 Nov 2016, 10:41 pm
Shahunshah wrote:
So today I didn't have a flash social experience. Which I will sum up.
So this group wa having a discussion about politics and the topic of Mike Pence came up with how he thought Gay Conversion therapy was okay and then the girl who brought it up talked about it being torture.
I knew conversion therapy was bad but I challenged the assertion that it was torturesince Gay Conversion Therapy had after all been made legal in the vast majority of states.
She responded saying 50% of people having undertaken the therapy commit suicide and that depression along with it was common. Then this other girl said that conversion therapy was simply shocking which included electric shots and other stuff. I talked for a bit following that comment. After that I wondered whether gay conversion therapy was as bad as what they were saying or whether those practices had been done when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder.
To figure it out awhile later I asked the girl I had been arguing other whether Gay conversion therapy has been regulated. She responded I don't want to talk about it. I then said okay but is it different from the way it was in the past. She gave the same answer. Then I said for the record I do not think it is a good idea. At that point she yelled at me telling me to go away gaining the entire room's attention.
Arguments aside I feel really bad because of that. I didn't pick up on social signals, pushed boundaries and continued to talk about an unpleasant topic. I fully accept my ignorance on the topic that is beyond discussion but What should I do now?
So this group wa having a discussion about politics and the topic of Mike Pence came up with how he thought Gay Conversion therapy was okay and then the girl who brought it up talked about it being torture.
I knew conversion therapy was bad but I challenged the assertion that it was torturesince Gay Conversion Therapy had after all been made legal in the vast majority of states.
She responded saying 50% of people having undertaken the therapy commit suicide and that depression along with it was common. Then this other girl said that conversion therapy was simply shocking which included electric shots and other stuff. I talked for a bit following that comment. After that I wondered whether gay conversion therapy was as bad as what they were saying or whether those practices had been done when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder.
To figure it out awhile later I asked the girl I had been arguing other whether Gay conversion therapy has been regulated. She responded I don't want to talk about it. I then said okay but is it different from the way it was in the past. She gave the same answer. Then I said for the record I do not think it is a good idea. At that point she yelled at me telling me to go away gaining the entire room's attention.
Arguments aside I feel really bad because of that. I didn't pick up on social signals, pushed boundaries and continued to talk about an unpleasant topic. I fully accept my ignorance on the topic that is beyond discussion but What should I do now?
Isn't it required, when having a discussion involving the name of any presidential candidate this year, to have a completely fact-free discussion? So arguing from facts most likely annoyed everyone.
I am aware only that in several western states the licensing boards for psychologists have actively discouraged offering conversation "therapy."
Also, any claim that half the people who are sent to such "therapy" commit suicide is statistically unlikely. The death rate suicide for youth, according to the CDC, is just over 2 per 100,000, per year. It's clear that many more youth than that are sent to conversion "therapy" programs. This doesn't address the rates for suicide attempts, but any mixture of statistics and politics these days is likely going to contain a lie.
All I know is that I couldn't support a candidate who suggested sending youth to "therapy" that has been harmful and is not approved by professional licensing boards.
And while there probably were social cues that you didn't pick up on in that conversation, I'm sure you've noticed that most of the NT's out there on social media posting diatribe about their favorite candidates are ignoring most of the cues they're getting too. Look at the bright side--it's one way that angry NT people can be Aspie-for-a-day...
06 Nov 2016, 10:41 pm
06 Nov 2016, 11:16 pm
stevens2010 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
So today I didn't have a flash social experience. Which I will sum up.
So this group wa having a discussion about politics and the topic of Mike Pence came up with how he thought Gay Conversion therapy was okay and then the girl who brought it up talked about it being torture.
I knew conversion therapy was bad but I challenged the assertion that it was torturesince Gay Conversion Therapy had after all been made legal in the vast majority of states.
She responded saying 50% of people having undertaken the therapy commit suicide and that depression along with it was common. Then this other girl said that conversion therapy was simply shocking which included electric shots and other stuff. I talked for a bit following that comment. After that I wondered whether gay conversion therapy was as bad as what they were saying or whether those practices had been done when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder.
To figure it out awhile later I asked the girl I had been arguing other whether Gay conversion therapy has been regulated. She responded I don't want to talk about it. I then said okay but is it different from the way it was in the past. She gave the same answer. Then I said for the record I do not think it is a good idea. At that point she yelled at me telling me to go away gaining the entire room's attention.
Arguments aside I feel really bad because of that. I didn't pick up on social signals, pushed boundaries and continued to talk about an unpleasant topic. I fully accept my ignorance on the topic that is beyond discussion but What should I do now?
So this group wa having a discussion about politics and the topic of Mike Pence came up with how he thought Gay Conversion therapy was okay and then the girl who brought it up talked about it being torture.
I knew conversion therapy was bad but I challenged the assertion that it was torturesince Gay Conversion Therapy had after all been made legal in the vast majority of states.
She responded saying 50% of people having undertaken the therapy commit suicide and that depression along with it was common. Then this other girl said that conversion therapy was simply shocking which included electric shots and other stuff. I talked for a bit following that comment. After that I wondered whether gay conversion therapy was as bad as what they were saying or whether those practices had been done when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder.
To figure it out awhile later I asked the girl I had been arguing other whether Gay conversion therapy has been regulated. She responded I don't want to talk about it. I then said okay but is it different from the way it was in the past. She gave the same answer. Then I said for the record I do not think it is a good idea. At that point she yelled at me telling me to go away gaining the entire room's attention.
Arguments aside I feel really bad because of that. I didn't pick up on social signals, pushed boundaries and continued to talk about an unpleasant topic. I fully accept my ignorance on the topic that is beyond discussion but What should I do now?
Isn't it required, when having a discussion involving the name of any presidential candidate this year, to have a completely fact-free discussion? So arguing from facts most likely annoyed everyone.
I am aware only that in several western states the licensing boards for psychologists have actively discouraged offering conversation "therapy."
Also, any claim that half the people who are sent to such "therapy" commit suicide is statistically unlikely. The death rate suicide for youth, according to the CDC, is just over 2 per 100,000, per year. It's clear that many more youth than that are sent to conversion "therapy" programs. This doesn't address the rates for suicide attempts, but any mixture of statistics and politics these days is likely going to contain a lie.
All I know is that I couldn't support a candidate who suggested sending youth to "therapy" that has been harmful and is not approved by professional licensing boards.
And while there probably were social cues that you didn't pick up on in that conversation, I'm sure you've noticed that most of the NT's out there on social media posting diatribe about their favorite candidates are ignoring most of the cues they're getting too. Look at the bright side--it's one way that angry NT people can be Aspie-for-a-day...
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