I hate how cruel life can be
I had been giving £2 whenever I saw a homeless man because he was desperate and I met his wife too and they are genuinely in need. Today he saw me and asked for £12. I could barely afford it but gave it because I thought to myself, well I have a warm apartment , he doesn't. He promised not to beg again for a month to me but I wonder if I've been taken advantage of. I think I already gave him more than most people. If everyone gave homeless people as much as I gave him I don't think anyone would be on the streets. Because in my town of 90,000 people and about 50 homeless people if everyone gave £2 to one homeless person every week each of the 50 homeless people would get £3600 each. Enough to get them an apartment and everything they need.
This is the thing. Some people like me help and many others just walk past and do nothing. And because I'm kind I've ended up being asked to give more than my share.
If only people would pull together. Instead of all competing all the time. We could fix things, care about people. I just feel so frustrsted and upset about it.
If he asks for double the 12 Pounds next time, then the person is probably taking advantage of you. First he asks for 2, then for 12. What's next? 100?
If you're on a fixed income, you can't afford to give all this money to this person.
Don't feel guilty for having a roof over your head. Isn't it true that, in the UK, everybody is guaranteed a home?
In a sense people are guaranteed a home here. With budget cuts forced through by the government, local towns and cities have few homes left to give people now so the waiting lists are long.
The guy I've been helping is Polish so he will have come here as part of the EU immigration agreement and while EU citizens can move here they aren't guaranteed a home. Since the Brexit vote many of them are getting deported too, probably usually because they haven't got a job. I don't like to see that. It is tough because I'm sure they came here expecting to be able to get steady work. My ancestors came here from Russia I think so I am sympathetic to people who want to start a new life. But I don't think I can afford to keep giving more and more.
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Ask a million children what they want to be when they grow up; not one will say "homeless and destitute".
There are worse things than being taken advantage of for your kindness; like being a selfish egocentric as*hole who doesn't give a s**t for anyone but themselves.
Thank you again for your compassion.
(Fair disclosure: I was homeless from 16 to 21)
"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of selfishness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared, if there were someone to receive their gift. But because beings do not know, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they eat without having given. The stain of selfishness overcomes their minds."
The Buddha
This is the thing. Some people like me help and many others just walk past and do nothing. And because I'm kind I've ended up being asked to give more than my share.
If only people would pull together. Instead of all competing all the time. We could fix things, care about people. I just feel so frustrsted and upset about it.
You can also give homeless people your time. When I have time, I like to sit with people on the street and talk to them. They often have interesting life stories to tell, but no-one gives enough of a crap about them to hear what they have to say. Sometimes people just want to be acknowledged, rather than ignored by people hoping they'll just go away.
I sat with a guy in the capital who used to be a singer, it was a really interesting chat.
I sat with a guy in the capital who used to be a singer, it was a really interesting chat.
One of the huge mind-fucks of homelessness is that everyone pretends like you're invisible; they all look right through you, like you're not even there. After a while, I really started to wonder; the dissociation synergetically exacerbating everything else wrong with me. There aren't words to express how helpful and healing that little bit of human contact can be.
Thank you for your kindness.
Generally speaking, from my experience, the homeless have food to eat. Whether they get fed at a shelter, get food stamps, eat at a soup kitchen, drop-in center, or visit food banks, there is no reason to go hungry.
And again, from my experience, those homeless citizens who ask for money are simply using it for drugs and booze. Don't feed their habit; give them a sandwich instead.
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It depends on the person, and I think the city. There are people that choose homelessness. For anyone who wants to argue otherwise: I am not saying this out of discrimination or bias, so you can stop right there, I've met the ones that choose to be homeless. They will brag loudly in your face about how much more money they make than you, and how you have to go to work "to be someone's b***h all day" to make money, and that they "can take that money right out of your hands". I've watched them pull out an enormous stack of money, the smallest bills making up a very small percentage of the stack, and wave it in the face of friends who called them out on their s**t. I have myself offered clothing, my Husband has offered rain gear and do you know what they said? "You don't have a whole outfit? I don't f*****g want it then." Friends have offered food they just bought, one an entire pizza they bought for themselves, and was told "Does it have sausage? Where's the f*****g sausage? I don't want this s**t."
It really, really depends.
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^Man, how ungrateful can they be!
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San Francisco, the land of entitled brats. I can't say for certain but I'm pretty sure that most of those types of homeless people are also on crack or crank. It's extremely common.
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If this was directed at me...
You should really never assume you know anything about a person just because you came across one of their opinions. Do me and yourself a favor, don't reply to anything I post, ever again. I don't have room for people who think they know all about everyone simply because they shared an experience. And I definitely don't have time for aggressive people. I do my best to handle my anger management issues, and this kind of behavior is extremely antagonist and makes it much more difficult. So like I said, leave me alone from here on out.
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I am a Bookwyrm.
It really, really depends.
I agree. Some of them, it’s not worth it. Fortunately for me the ones I have met have not been like that. I will never give money, only food and my time.
It’s also a risk approaching men who might be crazy as a lone female. I guess it’s down to sensing the crazy ones, ungrateful people and drunks from people who actually want help and support.
In all of my years living on the streets, most of them in the Haight/Ashbury of San Francisco, I've never met that mythical person who makes hundreds or thousands of dollars a day pan-handling, then strolls around the corner to their car and drives home to sleep in his warm California-King bed. There's no 24/7 buffet available to the homeless, and homelessness sure as Hell isn't merely an alternative lifestyle choice, like 'urban camping' or something. These are just BS tropes people confabulate to give themselves a moral justification for their selfishness.
Look, you self righteous jerk, I'm not a f*****g liar. I'm not making this up. I don't DO that kind of bs because I grew up around racism, sexism, ableism, ALL KINDS OF ISMS, I experienced it firsthand and I f*****g hate it.
Just because YOU never met the as*holes that chose to be homeless doesn't mean they don't exist and I absolutely resent your sense of worldliness and omniscience. It's garbage of you to be so sh***y to someone for sharing their experiences and opinions simply because you have a sore spot about something.
I also never said that they had houses or cars or any of that crap you just spewed out of your fingers. I SAID THEY CHOSE TO BE HOMELESS. They SAID IT OUT OF THEIR OWN MOUTHS TO MY FACE.
And one last thing, I've BEEN HOMELESS you as*hole. As a SMALL CHILD with my Mother in WINTER. So in short, go f**k yourself and I have nothing to say to you ever again.
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Once in a while I will give some change to a homeless person.
I do feel you've been taken advantage of if you can't truly afford to give up that 12.
I make donations to a youth homeless shelter. Money is MUCH better spent donating to homeless charities etc than directly given to most homeless people, IMO, because most of those people are not going to use the money for food/shelter/clothing/medicine. A lot of it gets spent on drugs & alcohol - if not MOST of it. There are many "career," homeless people here who have regular begging spots. They literally make more money than I do, but they have nothing because they are mentally ill & addicted to substances and can't manage to keep any of the money they make day to day. The Might get a room for the night, but spend most of it on drugs/alcohol. I feel your thought that if everyone gave $x and these people would have enough to pay for rent etc is nice but misguided. Chances are more than likely that that guy DOES get enough money by panhandling to pay for rent, but chooses not to because he blows it on some form of substance abuse. It's extremely common and most probable, stereotypes and judgement be damned.
If you feel compelled to donate to homeless people then make a donation to a local shelter than utilizes the funds well. Homeless people can go get food/shelter/services from there. Giving money directly to them, in most cases, is completely wasted. Every time I give a homeless person cash I accept that they are likely going to go get loaded at their first opportunity. Sometimes I had them food, instead, then I KNOW they have something to eat. Some of them will refuse food - well then, you're not hungry, you want cash for drugs/alcohol, F you then. Basically, IMO, even though I do it sometimes myself.. giving cash to most homeless people is enabling their addictions.
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