Will the economy pick up as time goes on?

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09 May 2020, 3:19 pm

I am more worried about the economy than I am about this virus. They're discouraging people to avoid public transport even when the lockdown gets lifted, so that's bad news for people like me who are employed at bus depots. The government ain't going to bail out bus companies forever and we ain't making the money.
And the recession means no more high street shops, businesses, airports, care homes, and anything else that keeps people using buses to get to work or leisure.
And if that's the case then if and when they do find a vaccine* nobody will be able to enjoy life because there won't be anywhere to go or anything to do. We'll all just be screen slaves. :roll:

*What if the vaccine doesn't work or they can't find one? What will they do, declare lockdown and social distancing forever and ever?

I'm so frightened. My life is over. I need ANSWERS and at least reassurance. :cry:


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09 May 2020, 4:07 pm

In my humble opinion the economy will come roaring back. Look at China. They finally opened up Disneyland in Shanghai. They limited the tickets to 1/3 for social distancing. The tickets were sold out in one days time.

Buses and bus stations are high density environments. There are a lot of people packed into a small space which means that if someone walks in carrying a virus it can be easily spread. I would recommend that when they become available that you purchase a few N95 masks. These masks will go back in stock in a couple months and the prices will come down to around $2 each. That will give you good protection. You might also buy a UltraViolet UVC sanitizer box. That way when your shift is done, you could place the mask in the box, hit the timer button and it will kill any viruses that you might have picked up during the day. Making it reusable for the next day. You should be able to get a week or two of usage out of each mask.


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09 May 2020, 4:09 pm

After I've seen Poland in the 1990s - yes, I'm sure the economy will rebuild itself.
Or, more precisely, people will rebuild the economy as soon as they can. Each doing their own little business to fill the post-crisis vacuum. It will be great time for startups.


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09 May 2020, 5:06 pm

I meant they're discouraging people to use public transport, not discouraging people to avoid using public transport (mistake I wrote in my OP).

I'm just worried that if nobody uses buses any more then buses will become a thing of the past and all bus companies will completely disappear. As an Aspie it really does scare me rigid, because my job cleaning buses at a local bus depot is very Aspie-friendly and I love all the people I work with, we are like a "family" and I wouldn't want it any other way. I was planning on working there forever, working my way up so that one day I'll actually be driving the buses or even being a duty manager in the future. That's how dedicated I am to it. I don't want to work anywhere else, I don't want to have to go on unemployment and be pressurized into getting a job I don't want.
For the first time in my life I'm actually happy in a job and I will be devastated to lose my job all because of a stupid virus.
Whatever will I do? Losing my job would be as devastating as losing a loved one, (God forbid). The stress and anxiety of it all is keeping me awake at night and I feel like I will have a breakdown or even commit suicide if I was to lose my job.

This is not fair. :cry:


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09 May 2020, 5:15 pm

There will always be a need for public transportation.



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09 May 2020, 5:26 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There will always be a need for public transportation.


There won't be if the government is telling everyone not to use public transport. They're even going to put more cycle lanes everywhere so that more people will cycle to work instead of using public transport. So that's going to kill off bus services for a start, especially the ones at the small depot where I work.


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09 May 2020, 5:38 pm

Not everybody can ride a bike.

Many people can’t ride on the road—including me.

There are many older people who depend on public transportation. And disabled people.



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09 May 2020, 5:53 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Not everybody can ride a bike.

Many people can’t ride on the road—including me.

There are many older people who depend on public transportation. And disabled people.


Yes that is true. But the government (especially Tory) don't care about that. All businesses depend on the majority, but it's the minority that suffer.


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09 May 2020, 5:55 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I am more worried about the economy than I am about this virus. They're discouraging people to avoid public transport even when the lockdown gets lifted, so that's bad news for people like me who are employed at bus depots. The government ain't going to bail out bus companies forever and we ain't making the money.
And the recession means no more high street shops, businesses, airports, care homes, and anything else that keeps people using buses to get to work or leisure.
And if that's the case then if and when they do find a vaccine* nobody will be able to enjoy life because there won't be anywhere to go or anything to do. We'll all just be screen slaves. :roll:

*What if the vaccine doesn't work or they can't find one? What will they do, declare lockdown and social distancing forever and ever?

I'm so frightened. My life is over. I need ANSWERS and at least reassurance. :cry:


Don't be frightened. What will be will be. (Hugs).
I too am very concerned as it is something that I also would not like to see. For me the worst case scinario would be that only the very large shops will remain open. The very ones I get issues in trying to shop in.

I don't do internet shopping. I do use the internet like a mail order catalogue though. But I don't feel safe paying for things online after I tried it about 8 or so years ago via Ebay, and ended up with only selling a few bicycle parts (I had planned to sell spare bicycle parts to buy trains) where on my first few sales I was defrauded and then I had my account hacked into from Africa and they spent several thousand pounds which I didn't have. Paypal and Ebay were wonderful in sorting it out, but my bank manager gave me a right telling off saying no one should connect a bank account to an internet site (Paypal). So lesson learned!

But do not worry. We can't change things so there is not a lot we can do.



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09 May 2020, 5:57 pm

Im a bus driver and the thought of bus companys going broke scares me too
Im on furlough at the moment but i want a job to go back to as I cant see myself working anywhere else either,Iv been a bus driver for about 25 years and I donr want to stop now
driving buses is my life and if that got taken away from me i wont want another job


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09 May 2020, 11:32 pm

Joe90, excessive anxiety is something you almost always experience, with only the subject of the anxiety differing. Try to remember this when you ruminate over bad possibilities. You can even say to yourself, "If I wasn't worrying about this, I would probably be worrying about something else."

I do think the economy will pick up but we don't yet know how fast, nor do we know how deeply depressed it will be before it improves again. The thing to do with this uncertainty is to try to keep a nimble brain. I recently started doing an online crossword puzzle every day. I believe that is good for brain health. Keeping the brain healthy and quick will enable people to respond quickly to whatever happens.


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10 May 2020, 5:17 am

BeaArthur wrote:
Joe90, excessive anxiety is something you almost always experience, with only the subject of the anxiety differing. Try to remember this when you ruminate over bad possibilities. You can even say to yourself, "If I wasn't worrying about this, I would probably be worrying about something else."

I do think the economy will pick up but we don't yet know how fast, nor do we know how deeply depressed it will be before it improves again. The thing to do with this uncertainty is to try to keep a nimble brain. I recently started doing an online crossword puzzle every day. I believe that is good for brain health. Keeping the brain healthy and quick will enable people to respond quickly to whatever happens.


I do have a crossword app on my phone which I play a lot. Only thing is it's so hard, and when I have used up all my hints I have to keep going to Google to find the answers, which makes it less enjoyable. :)
And I have it set on "easy".


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10 May 2020, 6:59 am

^ Have you ever tried Sudoku?



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10 May 2020, 7:37 am

Karamazov wrote:
^ Have you ever tried Sudoku?


No, I don't do number-related puzzles, I prefer words.

When I told my mum on the phone how I feel, she said something similar to what Kraftie said, she said that more people aren't going to ride bikes especially in the cold weather, and that the council won't pay to put in more cycle lanes on our narrow roads that are already too small to alter anyway, and that people will still be getting buses as well as trains.


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10 May 2020, 7:51 am

Joe90 wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
^ Have you ever tried Sudoku?

No, I don't do number-related puzzles, I prefer words.

When I told my mum on the phone how I feel, she said something similar to what Kraftie said, she said that more people aren't going to ride bikes especially in the cold weather, and that the council won't pay to put in more cycle lanes on our narrow roads that are already too small to alter anyway, and that people will still be getting buses as well as trains.

Yes, I expect the new cycle lanes they’re talking of will be for the most part installed in big cities: and the project will fizzle out before completion with little to none put in place across most of the country.
That’s what’s happened with previous attempts to increase the provision of designated cycleways: my local council started a project to link the entire city with cycleways six years ago and so far have put in about 2 miles total of disconnected bits, and then stopped talking about it.



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10 May 2020, 9:06 am

Sure, eventually. It'll take some time though, but the things that'll suffer the most are stuff like the travel industry. As in, hotels, airports... every day stuff like busses will always be needed. I'd dare say that bus companies will be among the first ones back on their feet.