Gurus who give overly simplistic advice

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I've met people IRL and online including wrongplanet who act like gurus but they're really not. These are the types who give extremely overly-simplistic advice and when others balk at their advice and tell them they can't do it because of x, y, z this guru throws a pissy fit. These gurus will say that the person receiving said advice is making excuses for not following advice. Yet, this presumes that it is the person receiving said advice's fault for not following advice and not the fault of the guru giving it.

What the guru doesn't understand is if the person could've followed this advice they would not even have had to come to you in the first place. These gurus from my impression (may not be true) seem to be in more in love with giving advice not to actually help the person out but to get this feeling of I'm better then you. It's like a high this pseudo-guru gets. This whole smug I'm superior to you.

Let's say an 18 year old is unhappy with living with his parents. He complains about this to this guru. All the guru will say is "move out" with this smug tone with no sitting down with the person and helping to come up with a comprehensive plan. If the 18 year old could have moved out then they wouldn't be coming to you. If you as the guru is not willing to be that person's Henry Higgins (character from my fair lady), sit down and provide comprehensive instruction and come up with a workable, comprehensive plan then you as the guru can keep your advice to yourself. It's worthless then pyrite.

Smug tones certainly don't help people who are suffering.

Most people here don't have enough savings to be able to move out from their situation.

Most people can't just up and "move out."

I hope you don't feel that I'm one of the "gurus"---because I am as anti-Guru as they come.

The thing is: it is ideal when one is strong enough not to be influenced by any human guru.

Remember, the Fair Lady, when all was said and done, was content in her own skin, and her Cockneyness.

A great story it was, that Pygmalion.

"be true to yourself". Manipulative arrogant judgmental entitled precious lil "people", please do not "be true to yourself."

Counselors and most "people" confuse situational and dispositional

They are not telepathic or precognitive

They act too judgmental

A counselor asked me "do you trust Dr etchiverri?"

Yes or no. But trust is a continuum. You trust someone at that time, for that occasion.

Just because everything Dr etchiverri did , thus far, that I know of, appears trustworthy, does not mean that she does not invest in the Wellbutrin stock market.

Extroverts love to say "a good person". Pattern recognition versus globalization.

Please do not call yourself "people". There is only one of you and one of me

Be as specific as necessary

Otherwise, logical fallacy

I find that many people who are true "gurus" in the Indian religious sense actually seem to be Rogerian or Socratic in their approach to giving advice.

Rogerian Therapy is "client-centered" therapy.

A good therapist will help you discover what choices you want to make.
Unfortunately, there are also bad therapists. Or simply misfit client-therapist pairs.

Here is what I need if I'm to be employed ever again.

A. Social skills training. Not just that but the reasoning behind certain things we're all expected to do. Meaning both the bigger picture and the specific details

B. I would like to be able to try again to get into the field. Every job require multi-skills each requiring years of experience. This is one reason I ended up giving up. If I'm to go back into it I need again the step by step details as to what I'm supposed to do to get into it and I need the bigger picture spelled out to me about the industry itself.

C. I need someone to sit down with mean and teach me these things and not just that but things like medical insurance (like what things mean, how to get the best for your buck, etc). Is the average person willing to break things down for me and also give me the bigger picture? And, telling me to look online does not work as in the stuff online is usually to vague for me.

D. Truth of the matter is most people are more then likely not going to do this as it would take considerable amount of their time of their lives. And, it would be a lot of hard work for them to do and it would take a lot of energy on their part. But, this is what it would have to take though. This is why it is very difficult for ASDs like us to be able to receive assistance. More then likely, I'd have to pay a considerable amount of money to receive this instruction.

Emblem Health is a safe choice for medical insurance.

I've been using GHI for almost 40 years. GHI is now under the Emblem umbrella.

They have low deductibles, and low co-pays.

I've never had a problem with them.

And when I'm 65, which is a little more than 6 years from now, I'll take a Medicare Advantage plan.

If I know you have a specific health problem, then maybe I might advise something else---but if you're a young person of relatively normal health, I'd go for Emblem as something that's low-risk.

Everything doesn't have to be this complicated song-and-dance.

What I would also advise-----is for you to get a civil service job because they tend to have better health insurance than most employers.