Getting less and less nice the older I get

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23 Dec 2020, 3:07 pm

I used to be so innocent and so sweet when I was a lot younger. I think it was because I was very naïve then so I assumed everyone was like me, tolerant and open minded and once you correct them, "they become more understanding and change their mind going, "Oh, I never realized that and never thought of it that way" but boy should I have learned from my ex Jerry that is not how many people are. I just assumed it was only him who was like that.

But the older I had gotten, I notice I am more short tempered, not as patient and I am more snarky towards anyone who I think isn't a nice person or if I think they're stupid or intolerant or stupid or an as*hole. They just simply lost my respect and had proven to me they don't deserve it. I am also an as*hole to other as*holes and have lost faith in humans. I've gotten intolerant of the intolerance.


Is it normal to get less nicer as we get older because we run out of patience and we realize how f****d up humans are in general so there is no point?

I can understand why anyone would say being naïve is a good thing or that ignorant is a bliss. But once you see reality, you are no longer this sweet and innocent person people make you out to be. I can thank the internet for it for making me see it simply because that is where lot of my social interaction is.


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23 Dec 2020, 3:21 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Is it normal to get less nicer as we get older because we run out of patience and we realize how f****d up humans are in general so there is no point?
This seems to be a big part of it.  Another part is that a younger person may believe they need to be nice to people to get what they need, or they feel that they must project an aura of "niceness" to get people to like them enough to provide what they want.

I used to laugh at other people's jokes, whether or not I "got" the joke and whether or not it was about me, just to get along and not get beat up.  Now when someone makes a wisecrack about me, I will shoot one about them right back, without any regard to whether or not their feelings get hurt.  Why?  Because people who are respected tend to be taken more seriously than those who suck up all the time, and people tend to respect those who have a low tolerance for BS.

Then we get older and we see that being nice is a wasted effort, and that being nice is especially wasted on people who have no interest in ourselves other than our money.

Why be nice to someone who is only looking for a handout, and who will ignore you once they get it (at least until they need another one)?



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23 Dec 2020, 5:07 pm

Fnord wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Is it normal to get less nicer as we get older because we run out of patience and we realize how f****d up humans are in general so there is no point?
This seems to be a big part of it.  Another part is that a younger person may believe they need to be nice to people to get what they need, or they feel that they must project an aura of "niceness" to get people to like them enough to provide what they want.

I used to laugh at other people's jokes, whether or not I "got" the joke and whether or not it was about me, just to get along and not get beat up.  Now when someone makes a wisecrack about me, I will shoot one about them right back, without any regard to whether or not their feelings get hurt.  Why?  Because people who are respected tend to be taken more seriously than those who suck up all the time, and people tend to respect those who have a low tolerance for BS.

Then we get older and we see that being nice is a wasted effort, and that being nice is especially wasted on people who have no interest in ourselves other than our money.

Why be nice to someone who is only looking for a handout, and who will ignore you once they get it (at least until they need another one)?



I've actually discovered through life that niceness actually brings you niceness in return. Rude people will get rudeness in return or malicious compliance from employees. I have read stories about it on Reddit and had no idea how privileged nice people are. It's only rude people that don't get niceness so I have gotten less and less nice and this is pretty normal what I am doing I guess. People that think I am a very nice person, maybe it's because they are nice people themselves so they never had to deal with that bad side of me. Just as long as you are a good person and nice and decent, you may never see the ugly side of me.


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24 Dec 2020, 5:24 am

That's normal. Some people stop being nice to everyone after realizing that some won't be nice back no matter what they do. Some become bitter from bad treatment and start acting less nicely because of it. Some have been nice to everyone in order to fill a certain role, but with more age, they no longer care as much and hold their ground and step up for themselves, making them seem less nice. And some people have been nice before but don't stay that way, so others stop being nice to them, too. And of course, the more jerks come to your life, the more people there are that make you feel like it's okay to not be nice to them.



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28 Dec 2020, 1:23 am

I can identify, League Girl.
What I see in my ‘not nice’ behavior is a response to years of seeing the same old games and manipulation, just different people.
I’m referring specifically to the workplace.
I am at the point where I do not chat at all, just focus on my work and take pride in my productivity.


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28 Dec 2020, 3:36 am

League_Girl wrote:
I used to be so innocent and so sweet when I was a lot younger. I think it was because I was very naïve then so I assumed everyone was like me, tolerant and open minded and once you correct them, "they become more understanding and change their mind going, "Oh, I never realized that and never thought of it that way" but boy should I have learned from my ex Jerry that is not how many people are. I just assumed it was only him who was like that.

But the older I had gotten, I notice I am more short tempered, not as patient and I am more snarky towards anyone who I think isn't a nice person or if I think they're stupid or intolerant or stupid or an as*hole. They just simply lost my respect and had proven to me they don't deserve it. I am also an as*hole to other as*holes and have lost faith in humans. I've gotten intolerant of the intolerance.


Is it normal to get less nicer as we get older because we run out of patience and we realize how f****d up humans are in general so there is no point?

I can understand why anyone would say being naïve is a good thing or that ignorant is a bliss. But once you see reality, you are no longer this sweet and innocent person people make you out to be. I can thank the internet for it for making me see it simply because that is where lot of my social interaction is.


One you reject the blue pill, and swallow the red one and see what life really is, it does create some anger and intolerance.
"Grumpy old men and women" become grumpy for a reason. :mrgreen:



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28 Dec 2020, 3:43 am

Fireblossom wrote:
That's normal. Some people stop being nice to everyone after realizing that some won't be nice back no matter what they do.


Yup. Very much so.

Fireblossom wrote:
Some become bitter from bad treatment and start acting less nicely because of it.


I resist using the word "Bitter", but embrace the term "Angry".
As a species, humanity is simply bloody awful. 8O

Fireblossom wrote:
And of course, the more jerks come to your life, the more people there are that make you feel like it's okay to not be nice to them.


Yup.
Some people just stop trying to push poop up hill and accept reality. 8)



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28 Dec 2020, 6:41 am

I happen to believe that many people are decent-natured, and that the minority who are jerks (or worse) create in us a defensiveness which ascribes “jerkiness or worse” as a default quality in people. As a result, one could become a jerk or worse as a manifestation of this defensiveness.



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28 Dec 2020, 6:52 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I happen to believe that many people are decent-natured, and that the minority who are jerks (or worse) create in us a defensiveness which ascribes “jerkiness or worse” as a default quality in people. As a result, one could become a jerk or worse as a manifestation of this defensiveness.


There are enough ratbags to go around, believe me. 8)