Is there anything we can do to get covid vaccines faster?

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25 Dec 2020, 11:53 pm

I feel that the governments are taking too long, and is there anything we the people can do to put more pressure, or turn up the heat so to speak, on getting the government to hurry them out faster?



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26 Dec 2020, 9:40 am

I don't think so; I'm pretty sure they're doing it as fast as they can without compromising the safety of those vaccines.



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26 Dec 2020, 9:44 am

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26 Dec 2020, 9:47 am

1)No. There is absolutely nothing we can do.

2)Its already a miracle that governments are moving as fast as they are. All of the experts expected that we would only get to the stage we are at now... a year or more later than now. They are already ahead of expectations.

3) Just stay safe, and practice social distancing, wear a mask, and so forth. That way you yourself can survive long enough to make it until this coming summer when a vaccine might be available. A few more months of this is not gonna kill you. And that way you can help us all survive in greater numbers so we all can make until a vaccine is commonly available. Pretend we are in the London Blitz. Pretend we have Churchill in the Whitehouse instead of a nonleader. :)

We just gotta fight the virus...on the beaches, on the streets, etc.



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26 Dec 2020, 2:06 pm

They're going as fast as they can, in fact too fast, enough to make me wary of having a rushed vaccine injected into my body. I feel sorry for all the people that had to be the first ones to have it in the UK. Usually rushed projects aren't done properly.

On the other hand, knowing there is an existing vaccine and that they're still working on developing more vaccines, helps me to be more patient and I am more prepared to put up with more lockdowns and restrictions if it will definitely be only a few months rather than a few years or decades or centuries even.
That is, until news reports spring up that shatters all our hopes, like "vaccine will not be effective against new variant" or "vaccines don't appear to be working as protected people are still getting ill from the virus" or "X amount of people have experienced severe side effects from having the vaccine".


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26 Dec 2020, 2:22 pm

Does screaming at the bus driver make you get to your stop faster? I'd imagine we have about as much ability to influence this process as the we do of making the bus driver cover 15 minutes of their route in 8 minutes.


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26 Dec 2020, 6:44 pm

Well it's that it seems only a select few companies are making them in the world. So I thought if they would just send out their formula to everyone, then others can make it too.

To compare to the bus analogy, why aren't places interested in having their own bus companies rather than rely on a select few, far away?



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26 Dec 2020, 6:58 pm

ironpony wrote:
So I thought if they would just send out their formula to everyone, then others can make it too.

That is a good thought; the wrinkle in the fabric of that thought is, how large a supply of raw material for making the vaccine is there?

And how well can that supply chain of the raw materials be scaled up?

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(Reuters) - Challenges in Pfizer Inc’s supply chain for the raw materials used in its COVID-19 vaccine played a role in its decision to slash its 2020 production target, a Pfizer spokeswoman told Reuters.

Pfizer has said in recent weeks that it anticipates producing 50 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine this year. That is down from an earlier target of 100 million doses. Pfizer’s vaccine relies on a two dose regimen, meaning 50 million doses is enough to inoculate 25 million people.

A company spokeswoman said the “scale-up of the raw material supply chain took longer than expected.”



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN28D3B9


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26 Dec 2020, 7:45 pm

Well wouldn't any pharmacy company be interested in making a covid vaccine, or not really, and only a few are?



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26 Dec 2020, 7:49 pm

ironpony wrote:
Well wouldn't any pharmacy company be interested in making a covid vaccine, or not really, and only a few are?

Let me ask you this, which vaccines should be made unavailable while other smaller companies change over to covid vaccine production with their available staff and equipment since they don't have enough of either those people or that equipment to continue current vaccine production and add covid vaccine production?


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26 Dec 2020, 8:14 pm

I see your point there, but could they hire more people, if a covid vaccine is in high demand, or aren't other vaccines not as important right now compared to covid?



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27 Dec 2020, 10:08 am

ironpony wrote:
I see your point there, but could they hire more people, if a covid vaccine is in high demand, or aren't other vaccines not as important right now compared to covid?


More people can only be hired if they can afford it. And such things can't be done by just anyone; there might not be enough pros available. Plus, with many companies having started lot earlier, it's likely they'll be ready earlier too, and then the money and effort by the other companies will be wasted. Worst case, they lose so much money that they go under and lots of people lose their jobs.



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27 Dec 2020, 1:23 pm

Oh okay, I thought that the more the vaccines the better, and thought that buy the population of the world being so big, that there wouldn't be a chance of overproducing.



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28 Dec 2020, 10:33 am

ironpony wrote:
Oh okay, I thought that the more the vaccines the better, and thought that buy the population of the world being so big, that there wouldn't be a chance of overproducing.


The amount of people might be enough, but the amount of people who'd actually be ready and able to pay for it might not be, and that's the problem.



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28 Dec 2020, 10:37 am

ironpony wrote:
I feel that the governments are taking too long, and is there anything we the people can do to put more pressure, or turn up the heat so to speak, on getting the government to hurry them out faster?
Even if the governments were then ones manufacturing the vaccines, there would be nothing us ordinary citizens could do to hurry the process.

As it is, you will just have to wait your turn behind the wealthy, the politicians, the medical people, the first-responders, and the elderly, just like everyone else.


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29 Dec 2020, 5:50 pm

They have to manufacture, distribute, and inject ~12-15+ BILLION doses around the world.

Just how fast do you expect it to be done? :?


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