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02 Jan 2023, 9:12 pm

There's this 50 something year old woman that's a regular at the beach who's threatened all kinds of people, pressed ~frivolous charges against her ex etc etc - just drama, nonsense, craziness, threats of violence, threats of calling police, park authorities, the city, cops and on and on. She's a hardcore alcoholic and legitimately has some sort of severe mental health issues that I don't even know wtf they are.

Anyways, she was denied entry to the annual Christmas fundraiser party and then went on fb to play the victim and spread lies. So, I corrected the record with straight facts. Then waited, saw a bunch of the regulars and those involved with the fundraiser at the beach yesterday and the guy that wrote and sent a letter to her explaining why she was uninvited to the party (threats to multiple community members, past behaviour at the Christmas parties etc) said yeah go ahead and post it since it's already out there for people to see.

So, I posted it just now a few times in the comments on her woe is me post that lies about what the letter did/didn't say - she claims the society took sides in a domestic violence dispute blah blah but the letter doesn't reference any of that whatsoever she's full of it and now the letter is posted.

Glad to see there were another few people calling her out saying she had threatened them so yeah no one believes you never threatened anyone.

Someone else emailed me copies of threats she put in writing to 2 or 3 people for me to post later if I want. Gonna wait with just the text of the letter and see if it's radio silence or world war 3. :lol:

Annnnyways, this woman is Actually crazy and super litigious so no I'm not going to post any insults or provoke her - just posting transparent facts to correct the record - especially since she asked if anyone who has a copy of the letter would post it.. and since the letter writer told me in person I could post it, I did.

So nuts that she goes on and on playing the victim like everyone is ganging up on her and making up the fact that she's threatened a bunch of people when she PUT HER THREATS IN WRITING and they've been circulating amongst the community so people are aware of how nuts she is.

Just thought I'd share the entertaining drama.. :popcorn:


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02 Jan 2023, 9:30 pm

That's gonna need at least the family size popcorn.


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02 Jan 2023, 9:42 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
That's gonna need at least the family size popcorn.

Lol she needs a family size bag of f off.

It's BIZARRE to me that there are still people that give her the time of day and some that say she just needs extra love blah blah blah.. no - she's legitimately crazy, threatens violence, tries to provoke people into fights, causes WAY more drama than is worth dealing with etc.

IMO she should be exiled by the entire community - hit the stairs and never come back down. Ever. And if you Do come to the beach, F waaaaay off a few kms down the shore and go listen to the ocean solo away from everyone else who's there to enjoy the place and each other's company.


She got her ex bf legally banned from the beach for a year after ~ frivolous complaints. People don't want to get involved with telling her off because they don't want to be summoned to court and to have to hire a lawyer etc. But really, all she needs to do is slip up and say/do something while she's hammered drunk to someone who's willing to call police and press charges and then she can be banned from being there. I think that's what it's going to take to cleanse the beach of her atrocious presence. She's been ruining peoples' days down there for more than a decade - not sure how long - but a loooooonng time.


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02 Jan 2023, 10:04 pm

A decade? Yep, well past time for to chaos come to an end.

And now I am hungry for popcorn. Wonder if the microwave popcorn in the pantry is still good.


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02 Jan 2023, 10:12 pm

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A decade? Yep, well past time for to chaos come to an end.

And now I am hungry for popcorn. Wonder if the microwave popcorn in the pantry is still good.

Yeah, it's bizarre.. buuuut, the beach does tend to be a refuge for the mentally ill. There's legit been crazy people down there screaming and swearing up a storm and people just let them yell at the ocean as it wasn't a busy summer day or whatever.

There are even a couple guys that have thrown punches at me that I still don't mind if they come around, especially the one that's actually a good guy he was just super stressed and frustrated that one night a couple years ago. We're on good terms. The other guy I haven't seen since he started a fight outside the Christmas party last year and got his ass handed to him.. but I legit feel bad for him being the way he is - he must get beat up a lot. So if I saw him I'd be okay with him being at the beach to get a little ocean vibe therapy.

But this woman is next level atrocious.. constantly trying to provoke people to violence so she can call the cops and take them to court kind of nutso behaviour. A very badly behaving drunk and not much better sober. Claims she doesn't threaten people etc etc but she's probably threatened more than a dozen people and often in writing!

Hell, a couple years ago after the Christmas party I was driving her and her bf and another friend home as they used to all live in the same building for a while. I missed a turn and the drive took an extra 5 minutes and she was getting all angry in the backseat of my car threatening to hit me.. :roll: Like gtfo of my car in the middle of the bridge and walk, b***h. But no, my sane friend told her off and calmed her down and I just drove them home like a normal person.

Really truly she's one of those people that needs a very serious mental health assessment AND to never touch alcohol because it makes her 1000x worse.


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03 Jan 2023, 12:13 am

Sounds like alcoholic behavior to me... They stopped allowing alcohol on our beaches, no doubt the few ruined it for the many. I'm sure some people still sneak it on the beach, but they keep a low profile. If they draw attention to themselves and they're caught, they'll be fined. Too bad they can't ban the alcohol, because an alcoholic will not go where they can't bring their booze.


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03 Jan 2023, 12:18 am

I’m too socially stupid to really delight in or care about “drama.”



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03 Jan 2023, 12:21 am

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Sounds like alcoholic behavior to me... They stopped allowing alcohol on our beaches, no doubt the few ruined it for the many. I'm sure some people still sneak it on the beach, but they keep a low profile. If they draw attention to themselves and they're caught, they'll be fined. Too bad they can't ban the alcohol, because an alcoholic will not go where they can't bring their booze.


There are literally hundreds, if not Thousands, of alcoholics on that beach and she's the only one that behaves exactly as she does. I've also worked approx 7 years as a bartender and served thousands of alcoholics - they don't act like that.

Alcohol may amplify her behaviours, but her behaviours aren't simply those of an alcoholic. They're WAY beyond next level bad behaviours.. batshit crazy behaviours.

Most beaches/parks don't allow alcohol at all, but people have drank at them for generations. Just last year Vancouver officially allowed alcohol at a handful of parks and beaches - but this one isn't on the list.. it's just culturally been a party beach for over 50 years. It's a very unique culture there.


Last Canada Day the end of the beach I was at had a Perfect Day - I drank a couple beers, cooked and served up dozens of angus beef burgers to everyone that was hungry, hungout with my skimboarding friends and most of them don't drink a drop, went paddleboarding etc... meanwhile there was a drunken brawl at the other end of the beach and the Coast Guard showed up with their big hovercraft and took like 14 people straight to jail from what I heard - like they were so rowdy their lives might be ruined with criminal charges. Some people shouldn't drink; it ruins it for those that can handle a couple drinks and behave ourselves just fine.

But anyways, alcohol makes her worse I'm Sure, but it's not just the effects of alcohol.. I've literally been around Thousands of alcoholics and not one other person behaves like her. She's actually mentally ill far beyond what alcohol does to people.


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03 Jan 2023, 12:23 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Sounds like alcoholic behavior to me... They stopped allowing alcohol on our beaches, no doubt the few ruined it for the many. I'm sure some people still sneak it on the beach, but they keep a low profile. If they draw attention to themselves and they're caught, they'll be fined. Too bad they can't ban the alcohol, because an alcoholic will not go where they can't bring their booze.


There are literally hundreds, if not Thousands, of alcoholics on that beach and she's the only one that behaves exactly as she does. I've also worked approx 7 years as a bartender and served thousands of alcoholics - they don't act like that.

Alcohol may amplify her behaviours, but her behaviours aren't simply those of an alcoholic. They're WAY beyond next level bad behaviours.. batshit crazy behaviours.

Most beaches/parks don't allow alcohol at all, but people have drank at them for generations. Just last year Vancouver officially allowed alcohol at a handful of parks and beaches - but this one isn't on the list.. it's just culturally been a party beach for over 50 years. It's a very unique culture there.


Last Canada Day the end of the beach I was at had a Perfect Day - I drank a couple beers, cooked and served up dozens of angus beef burgers to everyone that was hungry, hungout with my skimboarding friends and most of them don't drink a drop, went paddleboarding etc... meanwhile there was a drunken brawl at the other end of the beach and the Coast Guard showed up with their big hovercraft and took like 14 people straight to jail from what I heard - like they were so rowdy their lives might be ruined with criminal charges. Some people shouldn't drink; it ruins it for those that can handle a couple drinks and behave ourselves just fine.

But anyways, alcohol makes her worse I'm Sure, but it's not just the effects of alcohol.. I've literally been around Thousands of alcoholics and not one other person behaves like her. She's actually mentally ill far beyond what alcohol does to people.



Maybe she's got fullblown wet brain and the others are just damp brained.


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03 Jan 2023, 12:25 am

too bad someone can't slip her a roofie, just knock her out straight out the gate, every time.


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03 Jan 2023, 12:26 am

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I’m too socially stupid to really delight in or care about “drama.”

Most people really dislike this woman for her behaviour, but they're too afraid to stand up to her.

I'm keeping my communications brief and factual, knowing that she likes to phone police/lawyers. No insults, no provoking her, just setting the record straight by being transparent with the facts.

She claims someone wrote a letter that said something it doesn't, I'd seen the letter, I called her out on it. The person that wrote the letter told me in person that I could post it for transparency's sake so I did. They all want it posted and known, just no one wants to deal with her messages/phone calls/emails/threats etc. She's too drunk and crazy to realize who I am on fb vs. real life since I changed my fb name a couple years ago and have never updated my profile picture in 14+ years. So if she sees me in person she won't put 2 and 2 together and realize I called her bs out online - but since I tactfully did, a couple others have as well, and I've received messages thanking me for doing it as well as praise in person. Everyone wants her to be dealt with but no one wants to deal with her. But it doesn't bother me one bit to posts facts and let it be known she's not the victim she's claiming to be. Maybe it'll shut her up and she'll avoid everyone for a while and just drink at home instead of ruining everyone's social lives - trying to make people as miserable as she is or whatever her goals are.


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03 Jan 2023, 8:55 am

She needs a year ban to see if she can improve. If she can't, a lifetime ban.


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03 Jan 2023, 11:13 am

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She needs a year ban to see if she can improve. If she can't, a lifetime ban.

Her behaviour is like that everywhere she goes. At 50 something years old I don’t think she’s ever going to change. I think a part of the reason she comes to the beach is that it’s about the only place where anyone tolerates her.

I mean, plus it’s a beautiful place and the vibe is really good.. it has its own very unique culture - there’s nothing else like it anywhere. People actually take vacations from wherever they’re from to just come party on the beach with the locals. 8) But even without the people and the culture, the natural beauty is amazing, too.

A year won’t change her. The only way to get her properly banned is if she assaults someone and they escalate it to court and request a ban from the park as punishment and it’s granted. Other than that she just needs to be told by everyone that she isn’t welcome and to “socially distance,” herself from the main beach - like go hike another trail and be in the sun and listen to the ocean out of sight out of mind of all the people you antagonize. Or better yet, just stay home and drink your face off there and yell at your tv or whatever you do.


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03 Jan 2023, 11:16 am

A friend messaged late last night to comment that she’s strangely silent on my posting the letter. He figures she’s seen it and is stewing on it and possibly looking into the legality of it.

Maybe he’s right or maybe her phone was dead. Whatever.

The letter writer told me go ahead and post it, and there’s nothing illegal in the letter - anyone with a liquor license for a party can decline entry to anyone they believe is going to cause problems (Again!) so there’s nothing illegal about informing someone they will be denied entry to an event if they show up.


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03 Jan 2023, 5:40 pm

I wondered if my posts were hidden or notifications were turned off or something since there were no replies to any of my posts in the thread with an image of the letter.. but confirmed with a friend that people have seen it as they’ve messaged him about it.

Lol good. So people are seeing it and word is spreading around that she lied about what the letter said.

People already know she’s nuts, but some defend her when she plays victim and it’s gross. Glad they’ve read the truth and facts of the matter.


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04 Jan 2023, 1:08 pm

lol she replied acknowledging she's seen it.. starts off saying something about the letter not having a real signature - lol lady; clearly the author added his initials digitally from a computer after he typed it up.. and then says thanks, it's all the evidence she needs.

lolol evidence of her lying? I tactfully called her out and responded saying that it was evidence that her original post is not factual seeing as she claimed that the letter said things that clearly it does not, and that I was glad to be able to clear the air for anyone who's been mislead by reading her post.

Next is to read some correspondence people emailed me to see if there are in fact direct overt threats in her messages or just insults - she threatens people all the time, often in writing, and then puts it in writing publicly that she's never threatened anyone and anyone saying so is lying/gossiping/doing wrong by her etc. Gonna read the messages and if there's anything super juicy I'll ask if she'd like me to post the messages I've read, in the interest of transparency, so that everyone can read what I have.. if she responds and says put up or shut up or whatever, boom, I'll fire them all up on fb and everyone who already suspects she's lying will Know she's lying and then Maaaaybe she'll cease with all this bs wasting everyone's time trying to get sympathy after she creates all of her own problems then whines that no one likes her.


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