Why are therapists the most awful people in the world?

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11 Jul 2023, 11:45 pm

Why? I've seen maybe a dozen at this point in my life and every time it has been harrowing and I ended up sobbing and screaming in frustration and disgust and utter despair.

And what else is there?



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11 Jul 2023, 11:47 pm

Psychiatrists are even worse. I'd say much much worse.



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12 Jul 2023, 12:07 am

I gave up on therapists long ago, and group therapy in particular.

"Shut Up, Grow Up, and Get Over It" has been my favorite form of self-therapy ever since.

(Your results may vary.)

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12 Jul 2023, 12:23 am

I definitely don't have the option of self therapy. I am in in so much emotional pain I am on my knees. I'm utterly broken and can't take anymore.



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12 Jul 2023, 12:35 am

You are indeed in a tough place.



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12 Jul 2023, 7:21 am

You are presumably going to therapy to talk about difficult emotions. A certain amount of emotional pain is usually necessary. I hope your therapists are not being sadistic, and it seems unlikely you'd have so many truly bad ones in a row, it's just an upsetting process that people go through because they hope it will be beneficial in the long run.

I suppose maybe what you want is more of a counsellor than a therapist - someone who will help you deal with specific, present issues like grief in a supportive manner, rather than delving deep into childhood trauma. Does that sound right?



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12 Jul 2023, 10:34 am

The_Walrus wrote:
You are presumably going to therapy to talk about difficult emotions. A certain amount of emotional pain is usually necessary. I hope your therapists are not being sadistic, and it seems unlikely you'd have so many truly bad ones in a row, it's just an upsetting process that people go through because they hope it will be beneficial in the long run.

I suppose maybe what you want is more of a counsellor than a therapist - someone who will help you deal with specific, present issues like grief in a supportive manner, rather than delving deep into childhood trauma. Does that sound right?
Nope. That is completely ass backwards.

This is the excuse that therapists give for being complete pieces of s**t, which, when it happens, and it always does, is, not surprisingly, upsetting for the patient, who is already distraught and doesn't need to be treated like s**t by a sanctimonious condescending whatever. The emotions don't come into it at all. It's the therapist being an as*hole, period.

The main way in which they are an as*hole is by not listening, which ironically is pretty much their whole job, or at least its core. They just make assumptions about how everybody is, and then even if you tell them that there's been a misunderstanding and that they are going off on completely the wrong track, they just dismiss that, either ignoring it altogether or just not believing it. So that the entirety of every therapy session consists of trying to disabuse the therapist of their erroneous assumptions and entreating them to actually listen to what the patient's problems are. This becomes increasingly more and more frustrating until they say something that is just beyond what I can tolerate, and then I have to walk out.

There is zero dealing with difficult emotions. It never even gets to that. And that includes a therapist I saw for 18 months.



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12 Jul 2023, 10:37 am

I’m sorry you’ve had such negative experiences with therapists. Some of us have had very positive experiences with them.

I’ve not had any awful ones. Well, I didn’t particularly care for one of them, but I wouldn’t say she was awful.


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12 Jul 2023, 10:43 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:
I’m sorry you’ve had such negative experiences with therapists. Some of us have had very positive experiences with them.

I’ve not had any awful ones.
I find that impossible to believe. I have never met a therapist who was not an awful, awful human being.

The one I had been seeing for a year, from May to May of this year, during the most harrowing year of my life, just up and dumped me. Then I tried this latest one whom I've seen six times, and I left her office yesterday actually screaming. I had to call my sister and cry on the phone to her for an hour. Which ironically is the reason I had the therapist, so I wouldn't have to cry as much to my sister.



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12 Jul 2023, 10:47 am

You’ve only known 12 of them. There are a lot of therapists in the world. I’m puzzled why you think my experience would be impossible.


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12 Jul 2023, 10:48 am

bee33 wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
I’m sorry you’ve had such negative experiences with therapists. Some of us have had very positive experiences with them.

I’ve not had any awful ones.
I find that impossible to believe. I have never met a therapist who was not an awful, awful human being.

The one I had been seeing for a year, from May to May of this year, during the most harrowing year of my life, just up and dumped me. Then I tried this latest one whom I've seen six times, and I left her office yesterday actually screaming. I had to call my sister and cry on the phone to her for an hour. Which ironically is the reason I had the therapist, so I wouldn't have to cry as much to my sister.


Do they make themselves available to you in between sessions in case you are in distress


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12 Jul 2023, 10:53 am

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You’ve only known 12 of them. There are a lot of therapists in the world. I’m puzzled why you think my experience would be impossible.
I have known more than 12 of them. My experience is that they are 100% awful. What are the chances that I somehow only came across awful ones? Virtually none. Your experience is impossible given my experience. I'm not invalidating your experience, it just exists in a world that is not my world.

This is very terrible for me and I truly don't know what to do or where to turn. I cannot cope on my own but the professionals who are supposed to help only cause such terrible distress that it's much worse than just staying away from them.



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12 Jul 2023, 10:54 am

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Do they make themselves available to you in between sessions in case you are in distress
So they can s**t on me more? Not just during sessions but also between sessions?



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12 Jul 2023, 11:04 am

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12 Jul 2023, 11:16 am

bee33 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
You are presumably going to therapy to talk about difficult emotions. A certain amount of emotional pain is usually necessary. I hope your therapists are not being sadistic, and it seems unlikely you'd have so many truly bad ones in a row, it's just an upsetting process that people go through because they hope it will be beneficial in the long run.

I suppose maybe what you want is more of a counsellor than a therapist - someone who will help you deal with specific, present issues like grief in a supportive manner, rather than delving deep into childhood trauma. Does that sound right?
Nope. That is completely ass backwards.

This is the excuse that therapists give for being complete pieces of s**t, which, when it happens, and it always does, is, not surprisingly, upsetting for the patient, who is already distraught and doesn't need to be treated like s**t by a sanctimonious condescending whatever. The emotions don't come into it at all. It's the therapist being an as*hole, period.

The main way in which they are an as*hole is by not listening, which ironically is pretty much their whole job, or at least its core. They just make assumptions about how everybody is, and then even if you tell them that there's been a misunderstanding and that they are going off on completely the wrong track, they just dismiss that, either ignoring it altogether or just not believing it. So that the entirety of every therapy session consists of trying to disabuse the therapist of their erroneous assumptions and entreating them to actually listen to what the patient's problems are. This becomes increasingly more and more frustrating until they say something that is just beyond what I can tolerate, and then I have to walk out.

There is zero dealing with difficult emotions. It never even gets to that. And that includes a therapist I saw for 18 months.

Sounds like you've had a really rough time with it. I must admit that I can't relate to what you have experienced, but I can understand why you'd be angry and disappointed if you have been treated that way.



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12 Jul 2023, 11:47 am

There is not enough information to answer the question in the title of your post