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23 Aug 2007, 1:09 am

i got drunk today and AM still drinking. right now listening to emperor
if theres anything in 16 days of sobrity i can say is that it was regular. and i felt better emotionally.
please do not tell me how you were a 30 year alcoholic and you know the way, i dont want to hear it. thanks
i more or less looking for people in my situation and how they deal with it. thanks


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23 Aug 2007, 1:39 am

Are you old enough to buy?
The way I delt with it is I cut off the people who supplied it, who were mainly the people at my work, so I quit. Ive been feeling like s**t ever since pretty much. Maybe not recently though. These days Ive been feeling a lot better.



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23 Aug 2007, 1:48 am

Can't say much about my addictive proclivity but I have drank a lot lately off and on, some weeks I hardly go a day without drinking, others I go dry. Whether drinking is a good or bad thing seems to have more to do with what kind of week I'm having and where my mood is at. Hate to say it but I've noticed at many times that part of why I try to get myself out with friends a lot is that I can be my own worst company at times - thats when I feel I need to lose my sobriety a bit, just so I don't analyze myself right into the ground.



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23 Aug 2007, 1:48 am

im 27. my whole problem is when is the money left over from sportscard buying, i buy beer.

like right now, i payed my half of the bills and STILL after i bought a few sportscards have about $70 left. guess what? im getting drunk. :?


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23 Aug 2007, 1:55 am

and i would have spent the money on cards so i wouldnt have got beer exept the card guy didnt have anything new


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23 Aug 2007, 2:07 am

Sixteen days is actually pretty good for doing it solo.Most people(myself included)tried and couldnt make it more than a couple of days.I got myself locked into a "treatment center" in the middle of no where in a s**t town in MN in the middle of winter.I could have walked a few miles into the nearest town in -20 degree weather but would have gotten kicked out and been homeless again....that is the only thing that kept me sober,at first...poverty,homelessness and cold weather.

I dont happen to buy the whole AA thing that if you take one more drink you are doomed to keep drinking until you die...lalalala.
You are drinking now and if you want you can stop again.Maybe it will only be for 2 days or 20.You just keep doing that until you
are "done" and the bad parts of drinking out weigh the good.


I got sober in 1990 but I did get drunk a couple of times since then and never went back to being a full time drunk.We are all different.I finally figured out why I was drinking(to be around people)and just stopped trying to be around people,so didnt really have a reason to drink any more.I dont know what your reason is,habit or boredom or loneliness,thinking to much about stuff that hurts??There's a million reasons.If you can figure it out,maybe you can figure out another way to "fix" whatever is bothering you?I dont pretend to have your answers(hard enough to figure out my own),but I wish you luck with whatever you decide.I like you and think that drinking probably takes away some of your options in life.

So,just wanted you to know that a lot of us are proud of you for even trying to get sober and 16 days is something you should feel good about.


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23 Aug 2007, 2:24 am

that sounds great krex. and im so happy you are clean. my problem is temptation, the card guy didnt have anything new from the last time i saw him, otherwise id waste all my money on cards. $70 is ALOT for me to think about and to get drunk.

what else am i gonna spend all that money on? im not attracted to anything else. i have all the rocks i want, all the rings, chains etc. i want. theres nothing left. help


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23 Aug 2007, 2:30 am

I might suggest just keeping enough automatic deposit envelopes on you and making sure you get to the bank with extra funds before they burn a hole in your pocket. If forcing yourself to live from week to week without reserve funds is what you need to do its going to do a lot of long term harm in terms of your financial stability.



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23 Aug 2007, 2:44 am

well i dont have direct deposit. i get a check from the government that i have to cash, and i usually get to use a few dollars for myself everymonth, i mostlet buy cds, and sportscards. mostley sportscards
heres a stack of most of my cards

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23 Aug 2007, 2:48 am

Drinking today? That just means you are drinking today. That I understand, but sports cards, that is totally unreasonable! What can you do with them? Seen one seen them all, buy Lego, now there is something worth while, many hours of fun.

I am washing the crank case of a motorcycle engine, I do not want to take it apart and clean the pieces, so solvent, slosh, and pour out gunk. Drinking does the same to my brain, universal brain solvent.

I buy machines, motorcycles, microscopes, printers, then put them in perfect condition, then I do not do anything with them, that does not make any sense either. At least drinking is a direct and personal use of money.

The stores here are closed, I will forget it all by tomorrow. Have fun.



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23 Aug 2007, 2:53 am

Well, I guess that's kinda like investing in the stock market or something of the like. If you are on a government pension I guess they probably wouldn't be too thrilled to see you depositing the checks in savings and banking thousands on them.



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23 Aug 2007, 3:18 am

I wish I could help.It's just such a personal thing.If you were drownding,I could through you a life perserver,but my hands are empty and I doubt my words float.

Arent you allowed to save a certain amount of money before they start freaking out?Maybe nothing you can think of that you want now but always nice to have some in the bank if you see something you got to have that cost more then $70 bucks.Anything you want enough to make saving for it worth the sacrifice of not getting drunk?I have the same problem right now with cigs.I fricken LOVE to smoke.I spent moeny on patchs,gum,hypnosis(no it didnt work).I have rolled up "Italian spices" and smoked them when I was really desperate for some smoke(harsh on the throat but smelled nice :P )The best I have been able to do is cut down to about 10 a day and chew nicorette the rest of the time(thats expensive).

So I do understand the temptation.When I need a cig and cant find one or have one and cant find a lighter quick enough....I start screaming.I want to break something and nobody better try and get in my way.Addiction is a b***h.I wish us both luck.could be worse,could be herion or gambeling.Drink until your sick of it and try and stay sober again until you cant take it any more...then drink of you have to,just dont beat yourself up for drinking because it's pointless and just makes you want to drink more.Being sober takes practice to get used to...it takes a while to have the benifits that come from not drinking and sometimes our brains cant wait that long for some relief.I do believe you are a survivor and we tend to be able to get and stay sober better then people who have had life "to easy"(Paris Hilton,Linsy Lohain).

Good luck Richard,I hope to see you in "aspie-land",someday.We're going to need some strong backs to help build it.


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23 Aug 2007, 3:23 am

well done richard, it's great that you made it so far. everyone falls off the wagon.

i can't take the hangovers, i think that's what stops me becoming an alcoholic, i hate that hungover feeling.

lately alcohol doesn't even do anything for me, i don't get any 'high' or 'up' feeling. sometimes it's like that, it has no effect on me. what a waste of money.



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23 Aug 2007, 7:00 am

Russian vodka is cheaper and more potent, in my opinion your just wasting money anyway.



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23 Aug 2007, 8:43 am

Miller High Life! An underrated beer.



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24 Aug 2007, 1:37 am

jfberge wrote:
Miller High Life! An underrated beer.


I was going to say overrated...

Richard, like Krex said, and some others, falling off the wagon is going to happen. Like Postperson said--I just can't take the hangovers...

Are you jonesing for a new obsession? Are the cards not doing it for you any more? I hate that feeling--I felt like I had no purpose.

Just take care of yourself. Take a dang aspirin for the headache, and get enough water when you're recovering. Don't you exercise a lot? I was impressed by that.

Keep looking for that something you need. It'll show up. As what, I don't know, but it will show up, and when you're ready to quit drinking, you'll quit. Just take care of yourself until then, and keep telling yourself not to do something stupid, so you remember it when you're toasted--or "tatered" as my nephew says.

Metta, Rjaye.