what is the point anyway

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just started thinking what is the point to life anyway
we are going to have much more pain than joy
we go through all this crap and then die
so why not just take a short cut

I want to believe that when we die we just cease to exist in any form

"we go through all this crap and then die
so why not just take a short cut "

You might want to give Viktor Frankl's MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING a try. He documents his time in a concentration camp, and how and why some people fought to survive. He also talks about the mistake of looking for a grand, unified "meaning of life" applicable to everyone without context.

All suicide does is cause pain and sadness. You come here and allow people to care about you, then leave???? Not ok to me. You are hurting we are here, but please DO NOT ABANDON US. Otherwise...why this website. We've lost to many to suicide, and thats not what this site is about. It's a support site. And thats what we are here for. Jeremiah 29:11 says"For I know the thoughts that I think towards you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope." I don't want you to give up, I want you here and ok. I do believe in life after death, and I do believe we answer to God. I would like for him to say..."I've been waiting" instaed of..."you weren't suppose to be here yet". I don't think you are due there yet....so in the mean time please seek out help. We'd like to keep you around. Am I jumping to conclusions about you? I hope so. Maybe you are just venting...I hope so.

Alexbeetle......I feel sure that in death we are lovingly held through all that we were unable to face in this life. I don't believe in karma or reincarnation, I believe in the loving Christian idea of heaven.

In the summer I faced this existential agony, and I prayed from the depths of my soul, truly believing that this day would be my last. What unfolded was too personal to be written about here, this prayer saved my life.

Well done for being vulnerable enough and honest enough to bare your soul. When people do this they are of deepest service to others. Hell is here & now I feel you all of us who are unable to convey the horror and distress in our hearts.

My love to you.

Chris

Reincarnated into this world? I doubt many would want to, not sure if its possible either. My experience is with much easier ones (I know, not much help right?). The point of life is growth. Although I understand how hard this task is when we have as many problems as we do, and makes suicide tempting. It took me a really long time for me to understand how if any "normal joe" had to go through what some of us did, he would surely take his own life. But we havent, why? Because we are strong. I thought at one point that because I am sensitive to emotional pain I am weak. It isnt true, in fact Im strong because although Im extremely sensitive and have endured great pain from both large and smallscale "happenings", I am still breathing. Emotional strength is about keeping at least enough hope to keep yourself alive, even if its hard to control what you feel. Mind you that in our positions its not always even possible to control what we feel anyway, depending on the situation. All this is very important, for leaving too early could be a very big mistake, for your existance in this world mostly. One reason, which probably applies most to you is that new possibilities are always around the corner, sometimes even at random during times of hoplessness. I know from experience one of the biggest life mistakes is missing out and closing doors for yourself for whatever the reason.
However Ive pretty much always been against taking the short cut (or at least for myself). I mean, things have gotten pretty damn hopeless for me all through out my life and I fatasize about it sometimes, but I would never do it. I KNOW I could potentionally and maybe eventually make my life better for myself, its more of a question of when I can make this possible. Also if theres anyone on this miserable earth who is willing to help me.. Sigh. I mean, if theres anyone who is COMPATIBLE to help me. I know myself enough to know I cant live life alone. From this I can start my own life. But thats just me, maybe what you need is to think more about what you need and want, and doing everything you can to make them come true. Growth of our mind, body and spirit is important for all of us, so give that some thought. Though desperation leads you nowhere, and giving up due to seemingly hopeless situations is a lack of logic. So, either you choose to endulge in it or you dont.
On a grand scale, man kind is very weak, but mostly strong for human standards. Well, mostly is a bit of an exaggeration but I think you know what I mean. But this doesnt make life worthless. The key to a good life for yourself lies deep within you, even if your an aspie. Its not important why you are this way, but more important what you can do about it. Or should I say, what you can do to cope with it. Hope I was able to shed some light..

No matter whether there is an afterlife or not, it's important to live life to the full, and get as far as you can and want to while you still have life.

I believe in an afterlife, but I still believe it's important to make the most of this life, regardless of what's on the other side. If reincarnation does exist, then I'm not sure if I want to be a human in my next life.

What is the point of life?
There isn't one. Most people can't handle this, so they search for meaning.

What am I here?
Because my parents had sex.
But why?
They were probably horny.

Exception: If you reproduce, then the meaning of your life is to take care of what you made, forever.


For the record, I don't believe in any aftelife.

Science.

Everything we can observe, goes on, changes form, our bodies become plant food.

Energy cannot be destroyed, life force does not run to ground when we die, but it leaves.

The Universe is a complex machine, everything serves a purpose, then goes on to another purpose.

We will all learn the truth of what next, learn the truth of what now.

If life has no meaning, the Universe has no meaning, and that is a large and well constructed thing.

It is our awareness and observation that leaves in death.

People do not just run down, no matter what, they are alive, then in an instant, gone.

Something left to go somewhere.

The body dies, the personality is no longer needed, it is a here and now body thing,

Something else leaves, with a record of all it has seen, known, felt, soul for lack of a better word.

I think it has purpose, but without what we would understand as meaning.

No body, no earth, not bound by gravity, and who knows?

I think our lives are worth something to ourselves, but also to others too... noone could live in a world with no people and animals and plants for company... so it is the sum of lives that has the ultimate meaning, a sort of woven tapestry, not the individual thread.

I voted that we eather go to heaven or hell, but their were other possibilities, i do beleive in ghosts and rehinacrnation.

I try to live life to the fullest, for a weird reason, not only that I want to go to heaven and see all of you their, but also because, as I understand it, when old and knowing you will die soon, their is alot of reflection about life. My memories are so important to me, and in such incredible detail, i just wanna reflect as im dying, and know that not only did I live a happy and full life, but that I did the right thing, and my time on Earth was not wasted.

Heh... I get so damn emotional when I think about stuff like that, so i guess thats enough for the night...

Some ruthless thing like - survival of the fittest... survival of the strongest...

I learnt a f***** up lesson recently... and now I'm going back to my old attempt of being a stud.

Someone has said, “What the caterpillar thinks is the end of life, the butterfly thinks is just the beginning.” George MacDonald wrote, “How strange this fear of death is! We are never frightened at a sunset.”

I love this

The point is to learn, become more intelligent, and make the most of this life.

I feel sorry for your pain.

But I can answer your poll question.

When you die, and or expire earlier than your supposed to, that's it.

You're finished.

No heaven. No hell.

You fall asleep forever and never wake up, and best of all, worms and parasites are eating away at you while you sleep 6 ft under. Unless you wanna be cremated, sitting in a pot just made up of black, cold ash.

That's one idea.