Am I wierd or do I have some serious problem?

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Ana54
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31 Mar 2008, 9:40 pm

All I want to talk about is feeling like s**t and how can I feel better? Talking about movies,books, games, even old friends, studying or school, family trees, sports, any of that makes me want to barf almost; I find it so ridiculous and shallow when I feel like my mind is caving in on me. I want to share misery with someone, I just totally can't talk about someone's party or this concert or that movie when I feel depressed. It makes me feel like I'm being ignored. I want people to share their misery with me so I don't feel alone, so that we can do things to help each other together and have moral support from stigma. I want to be taken seriously and not be told off or shamed to told to forget about it or let it go or shake it off or be happy or any of that that doesn't work. Those people don't know what I'm talking about. Of course I want to be positive; I want us to share misery in a positive way "I really want to do this and that regardless of what people think and do this when I'm ready, not when others are ready for me to do it, and I want to feel happy and that and I know how and if we go to a shrink together to get some drugs we can defend each other from the people who say "Haha, they're going to a shrink, wimpy depressed people!", not in a negative way ("You suck, I'm already depressed and you make me more depressed.")


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31 Mar 2008, 10:08 pm

You're probably going to think badly about this, but I'm going to be honest. When you talk about how you feel depressed all the time, all I want is for you to shut up because all it does is bum me out. However, I know better than to judge. Sometimes I need to see through the outside behaviors and appearances in order to really know a person. It's a characteristic I must learn not just for my pursuit of psychology, but to know how to be a "true" friend. If only I could know how it would feel if I was in your shoes, but I don't. Back in my preteen/teenage years, my depression episodes would be cut short by harsh criticism from my parents, especially my mentally abusive former step-father. Also, in recent years, my family has been trying to stay on the positive side of things, even though we're not perfect. I should also note that whenever my mom gets depressed and feels hopeless, I get angry and I feel like I want to do something to end the depression or take vengeance on those that hurt my mom. However, I know that that emotion is dangerous and the more I have that feeling, the closer I get to actually performing that act. All in all, I would feel for you if I only knew how and I want to be a "true" friend, but I don't know how.


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31 Mar 2008, 10:12 pm

So you're just as bad as me. I won't play your game though. :)

PS, your parents are pieces of s**t. Don't let them, brainwash you. They sound like ignorant behaviorists. You seem to have come to your senses though and admit they were wrong to treat you thatway. I know how you feel because I felt the same way about my depressed mother (who also felt that way about me, wanting me to shut up, and I felt that way about her.) But I know better. I wanted to be away from her. I wasn't going to start some silence-her campaign. I wanted to get help for both opf us, I was going to call Dr. Phil once. Silencing a person makes it worse, not better.



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31 Mar 2008, 10:15 pm

No. It was my former step-father who was brainwashing our family. With him gone, our family isn't as depressed as it was.


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31 Mar 2008, 10:17 pm

Whoever tried to STAMP depression out of you was pretty bad too. That's why I think you are still very depressed and don't know it, or you wouldn't mind my posts and wouldn't get so bummed out by them. Btw, why do you come to the HJaven if it depresses you so much?



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31 Mar 2008, 10:23 pm

I come to the Haven because I care. It would be selfish to totally avoid the Haven all the time. Plus, I can't just judge others based on what they say. Besides, some of the topics on here are nice to discuss every once in a while.

I am NOT depressed. During my preteen/teenage years, I came dangerously close to getting full-blown depression, but thanks to my family and my active participation in band, I avoided a devastating disorder.

Honestly, I DO think you have problems at times, but I know that you don't ALWAYS talk about this stuff on WP. I know there's more to you than your problems.


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31 Mar 2008, 10:25 pm

Of course I have problems. We all do. Some have more than others, some seem to have none. I didn;tknow it was something to be ashamed of. Pardon me; I'd better gohide now.



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31 Mar 2008, 10:28 pm

It's nothing to be ashamed of. But remember this: If you ever feel helpless, hopeless, or depressed, know that there's always someone out there that's worse than you. You should also know that what you see in life is what you get.


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31 Mar 2008, 11:52 pm

Sometimes you have to force yourself to do nice things for yourself. You get a little happier each time you show yourself that you love yourself. Give yourself a treat, or gift, play with a toy, or take walk in the sunshine.


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01 Apr 2008, 12:04 am

Mudboy wrote:
Sometimes you have to force yourself to do nice things for yourself. You get a little happier each time you show yourself that you love yourself. Give yourself a treat, or gift, play with a toy, or take walk in the sunshine.


Once you accomplish that, you can go even further and share that love with other people.


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01 Apr 2008, 3:50 am

I think this is an incredibly valid idea. It is the true paradox of depression, the desire to talk about it, and feel depressed/grumpy, but great difficulty finding a conversation partner, lol.

When I was in my early 20s I was very depressed, but generally I was told to "Think Positive" and "Stop attention seeking" and far, far worse.

The result was that I stopped talking to anyone about my issues. But the depression didnt go away because I stopped sharing it with people.. it was still there.

I am not sure of the answer to this. I havent been depressed lately but I have been getting really irritable and angry all the time.. so I am looking for ways to feel good.

I believe depression has a lot to do with brain chemistry. Usually, a person's body has the power to anaesthetise themselves emotionally with serotonin and endorphins and other chemicals, but when this isnt working properly, the person's emotional immune system is compromised. Its not that the depressed person is inferior, or weaker even. Its like having emotional influenza that persists.

I think the crux of the matter is that I still havent found a way to manage my body and my life yet in a way that makes me happy.


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01 Apr 2008, 4:00 am

Oh, and the whole thing about people being worse off than us and we should feel less depressed. I was told that one a lot in my early 20's and it just made me feel more depressed, about the poor people who were suffering in the world.

I never got that one. I could sort of see what they were trying to do, but it wasnt effective. It made me feel guilty about being depressed, and sad that people in the world are in bad situations at the same time.


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01 Apr 2008, 10:05 am

Yoshie777 wrote:
It's nothing to be ashamed of. But remember this: If you ever feel helpless, hopeless, or depressed, know that there's always someone out there that's worse than you. You should also know that what you see in life is what you get.


You see that kind of thinking just doesn't cut it for me. It makes me feel even more alone in my depression when people say those things. Depression can be an illness just like a flu. It isn't as easy as thinking your way out of it.



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01 Apr 2008, 10:10 am

zen_mistress wrote:
Oh, and the whole thing about people being worse off than us and we should feel less depressed. I was told that one a lot in my early 20's and it just made me feel more depressed, about the poor people who were suffering in the world.

I never got that one. I could sort of see what they were trying to do, but it wasnt effective. It made me feel guilty about being depressed, and sad that people in the world are in bad situations at the same time.


Oh and when people tell me about the poor people suffering in the world all I can think about is that if I was them I would never have wanted to be born at all. Yet the majority of poor people keep on living. They must not be as unhappy as we think they are. Suffering and unhappiness are not the same thing. It's possible to suffer and not be unhappy or vice versa.



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04 Apr 2008, 5:17 pm

Marshall, I agree with you. Not only is that person telling you that rubbing your face in even more misery, but they are also basically calling you a spoiled brat. Not fun. Not helpful. Not therapeutic. Not kosher.


Your face is dirty, and you're trying to get it clean but don't have some soap nad need some soap, and then someone comes along saying they'll clean your face by making it dirtier so you can know how bad it really gets and how good you had it before when it was less dirty. And that that wil, supposedly, help you keep your face clean.



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04 Apr 2008, 5:53 pm

I don't think you're weird. Feel free to talk about whatever you want.


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