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19 Apr 2008, 3:29 am

I have made a serious error of judgement in part due to my AS I had a falling out with a friend a few years ago. I met a new friend a few months back and a week ago suggested she as a good way to "get back" at E to piss her off was to post a notice on an online bulletin board asking for men to talk dirty with her leaving her phone number. I unfortunately without thinking of the consequences did this. I thought it might annoy her thats all. I thought she would get a couple of phone calls, be annoyed or maybe laugh tell them to f**k off and that would be it. However she has emailled me saying that she has called the police (she doesn't know it was me is only guessing) and I haven't admitted it I never meant any harm to come to her just annoy her it was an immature prank gone wrong.

I am annoyed with my "friend" as she knows I have AS and the fact we don't put the consequences and actions together and yet she suggested such a stupid thing. I admit I did it and it was stupid but I never expected it to get out of hand like this. I am particularly pissed off with the girl who the prank was played on as she and her mother are well aware of AS and what it is about, her mum works in the area and it was her who suggested AS to me five years ago when we were still friends. She simply could have sent me an email/myspace message and said I don't know if it was you if it was it wasn't funny don't do it again. Even threatening to call the cops and claiming federal laws had been broken is OTT weather she did or not only time will tell it has been a week now though so it is looking better for me. Do people think she has really called the cops or is she just threatening? how should I handle the situation from here?



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19 Apr 2008, 3:51 am

I don't think you can hide behind AS on this one. You knew that you were pulling a prank to be hurtful to someone.

Your friend has a right to be angry. Frankly, the fact that you've turned this around and made yourself the victim disturbs me more than the prank itself.



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19 Apr 2008, 3:53 am

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I don't think you can hide behind AS on this one. You knew that you were pulling a prank to be hurtful to someone.

Your friend has a right to be angry. Frankly, the fact that you've turned this around and made yourself the victim disturbs me more than the prank itself.


My AS did affect my judgement I have trouble thinking of consequences and actions I anly wanted to annoy her not hurt her as she ended our friendship over something really stupid. Sure I did it and sure it went too far but to call the police if she did come on.



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19 Apr 2008, 4:14 am

1. Friendships end over stupid things all the time.
2. Getting back at your friend years later is wrong. Period. If she's not bothering you, leave her in peace.
3. She doesn't even know for sure that it's you. All she knows is that someone out there is giving disgusting men her phone number.
4. Of course she called the cops. A mysterious person is harrassing her, potentially putting her in DANGER. Getting a dozen calls like that would freak anyone out.

Look, I don't want to just smack you around here in the Haven. There seems to be some serious theory of mind/empathy issues you need to deal with.

For now, sit back and pray that this blows over. Do not be angry with your friend, as she's the victim of a prank gone wrong. Her reactions are normal and correct. When enough time has passed find some help in understanding other people's emotions.



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19 Apr 2008, 4:24 am

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My AS did affect my judgement I have trouble thinking of consequences and actions I anly wanted to annoy her not hurt her as she ended our friendship over something really stupid. Sure I did it and sure it went too far but to call the police if she did come on.


I'm personally pretty pissed off that certain Aspies and their Attorney's are spewing the same Bs that you are doing here. So because of AS you are too damn stupid to understand anything? Maybe you should be institutionalized for your own good before you lie down on the train track because you're too stupid to know that a train running you over could kill you? Did you know that you should not wet your finger and play with live electrical circuits? Yep, that's true, I know, I'm an electrician. If you need any other good suggestions, like not trying to give a cat a bath without protective gear , just ask. Now that you have made us aware that you are mentally incompetent we'll try to help you. :D



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19 Apr 2008, 4:27 am

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1. Friendships end over stupid things all the time.
* Sure they do and as a person with AS who has few friends anyway it hit me really hard we were very good friends. She ended the friendship because in her religion you can't "lie" and I told some jahovah's one day that I was a member of her religion she percieved that as a lie and that was the end of the friendship.

2. Getting back at your friend years later is wrong. Period. If she's not bothering you, leave her in peace.
* I agree and I shouldn't have followed up on my new "friend" suggestion but my thoughtlessness and lacking of linking consequences and actions I made an error of judgement.

3. She doesn't even know for sure that it's you. All she knows is that someone out there is giving disgusting men her phone number.
* I have had freaks call me from this site and it was upsetting for sure but the posting was taken down quickly and as far as I am aware no one called her but I don't know for sure. It got out of hand really quickly and I honestly never meant for that to happen.


4. Of course she called the cops. A mysterious person is harrassing her, potentially putting her in DANGER. Getting a dozen calls like that would freak anyone out.

She must have guessed it was me or she wouldn't send me a Myspace message.

Look, I don't want to just smack you around here in the Haven. There seems to be some serious theory of mind/empathy issues you need to deal with.
* Sure I probably do have empathy issues that is part of Asperger's my psych told me that I do feel guilty about what happened but I do not think it was criminal.

For now, sit back and pray that this blows over. Do not be angry with your friend, as she's the victim of a prank gone wrong. Her reactions are normal and correct. When enough time has passed find some help in understanding other people's emotions.


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19 Apr 2008, 4:36 am

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* Sure I probably do have empathy issues that is part of Asperger's my psych told me that I do feel guilty about what happened but I do not think it was criminal.


You are wrong. It is criminal to encourage men to sexually harass a woman over the phone.

BTW, I'm looking at your bio. Are you really 28?



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19 Apr 2008, 4:37 am

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My AS did affect my judgement I have trouble thinking of consequences and actions I anly wanted to annoy her not hurt her as she ended our friendship over something really stupid. Sure I did it and sure it went too far but to call the police if she did come on.


I'm personally pretty pissed off that certain Aspies and their Attorney's are spewing the same Bs that you are doing here. So because of AS you are too damn stupid to understand anything? Maybe you should be institutionalized for your own good before you lie down on the train track because you're too stupid to know that a train running you over could kill you? Did you know that you should not wet your finger and play with live electrical circuits? Yep, that's true, I know, I'm an electrician. If you need any other good suggestions, like not trying to give a cat a bath without protective gear , just ask. Now that you have made us aware that you are mentally incompetent we'll try to help you. :D


Come on I didn't write this to be abused I am sure you aren't perfect and have made juvenile mistakes before too. I am not stupid I have a college degree but my AS impairs my judgement my psychologist says that. I do thoughtless things all the time and I deeply regret this latest one.



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19 Apr 2008, 4:40 am

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* Sure I probably do have empathy issues that is part of Asperger's my psych told me that I do feel guilty about what happened but I do not think it was criminal.


You are wrong. It is criminal to encourage men to sexually harass a woman over the phone.

BTW, I'm looking at your bio. Are you really 28?


Yes I am but I have been told socially and emotionally I am 13. My ex friend claims Aus federal fraud laws she told me that the cops told her three Federal laws have been broken. have been broken not harrassment



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19 Apr 2008, 4:44 am

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I am not stupid I have a college degree but my AS impairs my judgement my psychologist says that.


Please do me a favor and show your psychologist this thread.



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19 Apr 2008, 4:47 am

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I am not stupid I have a college degree but my AS impairs my judgement my psychologist says that.


Please do me a favor and show your psychologist this thread.


why?



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19 Apr 2008, 5:00 am

Asperger syndrome comes not only with its own characteristics (Box 1Go), but also with a wide variety of comorbid conditions such as depression, anxiety, obsessive–compulsive disorder, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and alcoholism, and relationship difficulties (including family/marital problems) (Tantam, 2003). It may predispose individuals to commit offences and can affect their mental capacity and level of responsibility



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19 Apr 2008, 5:01 am

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Because I'm disturbed by the degree to which you've used your diagnosis as an excuse for anti-social behavior.



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19 Apr 2008, 5:05 am

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Because I'm disturbed by the degree to which you've used your diagnosis as an excuse for anti-social behavior.


So what are you suggesting a juvenile stunt deserves a prison sentence?



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19 Apr 2008, 5:15 am

No. I'm suggesting that you work with your psychologist so that you don't receive a prison sentence in the future.



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19 Apr 2008, 5:19 am

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No. I'm suggesting that you work with your psychologist so that you don't receive a prison sentence in the future.


For sure it is something I will do I don't want to end up in trouble on top of my other problems. I am sorry it has turned out like this and I have told the girl who suggested it in the first place that I don't want to hang out with her.