Who else is happy for the people that have died?

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KenM
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28 Dec 2008, 8:51 am

Everyday I read the obituary section of the paper and look at the people that have passed on. I always feel happy for them. They left this world and don't have to deal with the BS. They are in a beter place. That is where I want to be, in a beeter place. There is nothing left for me here. I want to be happy like the ones that died before me.



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28 Dec 2008, 10:55 am

I'm happy for them especially if they died of a painful sickness, old age, or an accident that would have left them disabled had they survived (which pretty much covers a lot of bases).

I'm not so sure they're in a better place.

I'm not sure I'd want to join them where ever they are.

Wanting to join them could be interpreted as a sign of depression and one's etiology of depression might possibly be chemically motivated.
It might be wise for you to mention this envy of the dead thing to your dr. next time you consult.

What keeps me going is that I view my life as a lesson. If I short change my "lesson" by checking out early, either I might have to start the lesson all over again in my next life

or my next life might be an even rougher lesson.
That in mind, the life I have right now doesn't look too bad by comparison.



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28 Dec 2008, 11:36 am

If you're suicidal, it's very easy to get drugs to make you feel better. Legal ones, too. You can get antidepressants from a crisis center and doctors sometimes add Abilify to an antidepressant for depression. If you live in a country where going to a shrink isn't covered, go to a mental hospital and tell them you're suicidal, and they'll send you home with free drugs and refer you to a clinic where you can get more free drugs, forever. You might have to stay in the mental hospital a while, though, don't know if you mind. But you probably won't have to do that, at least not for a while, because the crisis center will give you free samples. :)



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28 Dec 2008, 12:18 pm

I am not happy for those who have died badly. :(



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28 Dec 2008, 12:28 pm

macushla wrote:
It might be wise for you to mention this envy of the dead thing to your dr. next time you consult.

From what I heard, mentioning feeling suicidal (envy of the dead could be interpreted as such) could result in very unpleasant personal consequences. I've had a doctor threaten to have me locked up in a mental institution when I mentioned feeling suicidal to her. If you must somehow convey the feelings, say that you want to move far away and never come back; then come up with responses for follow-up questions. This way, a therapist will be completely powerless to take any action against you, except to try to talk you out of moving away.

With that said, I felt envy toward the dead all the time when I was a child. At the time, there was a nursing home about a mile from where I lived, so I saw funeral processions on a large street near my home on average a few times a year. I felt slightly envious toward the dead, because they already "served their time" in this world, and no longer have to put up with the harsh realities of life. Given the childhood I had, it's no surprise I felt the way I did.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:26 pm

Ana54 wrote:
If you're suicidal, it's very easy to get drugs to make you feel better. Legal ones, too. You can get antidepressants from a crisis center and doctors sometimes add Abilify to an antidepressant for depression. If you live in a country where going to a shrink isn't covered, go to a mental hospital and tell them you're suicidal, and they'll send you home with free drugs and refer you to a clinic where you can get more free drugs, forever. You might have to stay in the mental hospital a while, though, don't know if you mind. But you probably won't have to do that, at least not for a while, because the crisis center will give you free samples. :)



Thanks, but I am totally against any kind of drugs or medication for how I feel. They make you dependent on them and just make you feel happy, hiding how you really feel. This does not fix the problem, it just covers it up.



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28 Dec 2008, 4:46 pm

I am happy for those who die after suffering because they no longer feel any pain. Sure if it is someone close it hurts you but at least their suffering is over.


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28 Dec 2008, 5:29 pm

What about all those people seperated from their loved ones by death? How is that enviable? It's one thing to "know it's your time" but quite another to be killed during a liquor-store holdup or lose your life because of a drunk driver.



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28 Dec 2008, 5:31 pm

KenM wrote:
Everyday I read the obituary section of the papaer and look at the people that have passed on. I always feel happy for them. They left this world and don't have to deal with the BS. They are in a beter place. That is where I want to be, in a beeter place. There is nothing left for me here. I want to be happy like the ones that died before me.


Do you believe in heaven?



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28 Dec 2008, 5:49 pm

I feel happy for them in a way.

I dont see death as the end, I see it as a graduation on to a higher plain of exsitance. One where you go to when you have learned all you can from here and are ready to move up in life as a wiser being.

I also believe people can choose to be reincarnated if they want and some (who did not learn there lessons the first time get reincarnated as well)

I have be contacted by dead friends and relitives in my dreams. Some i spoked to before I knew they were dead or even ill.



28 Dec 2008, 7:21 pm

Not me. I don't feel anything.



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28 Dec 2008, 7:35 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Do you believe in heaven?


Yes, and hell. I feel i'm in hell now. and I have learned all I can here. Sick of being miserable and women rejecting me. Sick of trying with women and failing all the time no matter what I do.



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29 Dec 2008, 8:27 pm

All this over women? Are you for real, dude?
Listen, I think you have more to worry about from the families of the deceased. I'm sure they'll be just as sympathetic if you mention your envy over the deaths of their loved ones.



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29 Dec 2008, 8:40 pm

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All this over women? Are you for real, dude?



I see you are only 19. I'm 40, twice your age. I have never had a decent relationship with a women. Every womeon I have ever been interested in has rejected me. Saying they just want to be friends.

I challenge you to go through ALL YOUR LIFE knowing nothing but rejection and seeing all your friends find happiness with someone, get married, ect. and not feel the same why I do about the demons from hell that are women.



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29 Dec 2008, 8:52 pm

Uhh. I'm a woman by the way. Am I some sort of demon. Let me tell you tell, you aren't gonna get a relationship if you act that way.
Plus my cousin died in a car accident, do you feel envious for him? He died without getting married and he missed out on so much. I missed out on a lot with him. For you to belittle grief like that is frankly offensive.

Oh and let's not forget the little kids who die of cancer. This mean ol world didn't want em' in the first place right? They didn't even have chance to live life and that's better than you? Those kids would cripple themselves just to live as long as you.



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29 Dec 2008, 9:18 pm

I'm sorry, I did think you were male from your posts.

If I had know when I was a kid that by 40 I would have never had a decenet reltionship with a women. That I would have had 3 dates tops with a single women and it going no place, gettign the same line over and over 'I just want to be friends" or "I'm not ready for a reltionship" Then a week later getting introduced to there new BF. If I had know all that I would have happily gotten cancer and died within a year of getting it then going through the BS of living. I wish I was dead now. I'm happy for those kids and your cousin, they are no longer suffering and in a better place.

Wish I had cancer now, less painful then what I been through. Those kids would not cripple themselves to know my pain, my world. My grave stone will ready "he was a good friend, but no one wanted to take a chance to see if he would be a good lover, mate, husband. They always rejected Him."

I'm not looking for a relationship right now anyway because I KNOW its a waste of time, they will reject me. So why try? I need something that is going to be sure of.