Depression is merely a realization that change is needed

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Mindovermatter
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04 Feb 2009, 2:13 pm

Depression could be considered a blessing. Imagine all the people with really bad autism and how they feel. They probably aren't aware enough to know to be depressed. At least we(the depressed) have the awareness to muster up strength and chagne things. Anyone else feel what I'm saying?



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04 Feb 2009, 2:23 pm

Yes...



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04 Feb 2009, 2:57 pm

The awareness? Absolutely! The willingness? I dunno... I'm depressed and I keep having to push out thoughts of finding the best way to go out with a bang.



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04 Feb 2009, 3:11 pm

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The awareness? Absolutely! The willingness? I dunno... I'm depressed and I keep having to push out thoughts of finding the best way to go out with a bang.

I wonder if community service works? I'll find out soon. I have a warrant that needs to be cleared and when I do I'm going to have loads of community service. I think of it like I'm doing it out of my heart so it won't feel like punishment, lol. In theory, since your just trying to help the community you feel better but maybe something like helping out the poor every once in a while. Or if your poor go to a bunch of churchs and get free food, that should expand your budget !;) No man should pay for food.;) J/k I pay for food all the time....



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04 Feb 2009, 4:03 pm

smilyme wrote:
Yes...


exactly what I was gonna say :P

Yep, it is a need for change. If something's broken, fix it.


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04 Feb 2009, 4:29 pm

So when two different people who don't know each other are in the same situation. One person is aware of how much it sucks and is depressed about it, while the other person is oblivious or indenial. By any qualified psychiatrist the person in denial or oblivious to the situation is considered normal, and the person aware is depressed. Interesting...



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04 Feb 2009, 4:46 pm

I always felt like things were more real when I was depressed, it would come and go. But now i've beaten it, things will real this way. I feel alright.


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04 Feb 2009, 5:09 pm

Mindovermatter wrote:
Depression could be considered a blessing. Imagine all the people with really bad autism and how they feel. They probably aren't aware enough to know to be depressed. At least we(the depressed) have the awareness to muster up strength and chagne things. Anyone else feel what I'm saying?

No. My depression only takes my strength away. It's much easier to change things for the better when I'm not feeling depressed.

Depression makes me tired and exhausted and unable to experience pleasure. I have no desire to do anything when I'm in that state, very little appeals to me, even things I'd ordinarily find fun. Then to top it off people who've never been depressed in their life think it's a choice, that not being depressed means they have more character. They don't see it the same way they do a physical condition even though it's definitely caused by something physically wrong in the brain. It isn't just my life that's triggering it.

I think I might have bipolar II. It's hell. Luckily I don't have depression all the time so I've learned to just ride it out for a few days when it happens. If I never came out of my depressions though I'd probably have to kill myself. It makes life totally not worthwhile in the long run.



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04 Feb 2009, 5:10 pm

nah, ignorance is bliss. I'd pay for a lobotomy, if it was still legal.


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04 Feb 2009, 8:32 pm

Mindovermatter wrote:
Depression could be considered a blessing. Imagine all the people with really bad autism and how they feel. They probably aren't aware enough to know to be depressed. At least we(the depressed) have the awareness to muster up strength and chagne things. Anyone else feel what I'm saying?


Not really: Feeling depressed is contra-productive. I been twice in this situation. One time I started backing bread (*) and the other time I spend two weeks at flat a friend, just to leave the situation for while. So luckily I managed to get out of this "grey box of lead" without further help.

But: But is depression is clear sign that thinks had to change drastically and when I left the "pathological" phase I started to change things, slowly but steadily.



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04 Feb 2009, 8:47 pm

Clinical depression is a mental illness. There is nothing profound and rational about it, the point is that it is counter-rational and counter-productive.

On that note, I'd hazard to suggest that most of the more severe problems I've seen with many of those posting here have more to do with clinical depression or bipolar disorder than AS itself.



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05 Feb 2009, 5:35 am

lmao, most people here are depressed about their AS. loolz



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05 Feb 2009, 8:56 am

Mindovermatter wrote:
lmao, most people here are depressed about their AS. loolz


yeah, but there's quite a few people with AS and Bi Polar


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06 Feb 2009, 2:42 am

Hector wrote:
Clinical depression is a mental illness. There is nothing profound and rational about it, the point is that it is counter-rational and counter-productive.

It's neither rational nor counter-rational. Clinical depression has nothing to do with reason or thinking.

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lmao, most people here are depressed about their AS. loolz

You don't know what you're talking about. You're trivializing depression out of ignorance. People bitching about how sh***y their life is NOT always depression (though most people here seem to think it is). Sometimes people have every reason to be miserable given their current circumstances. That's not depression. That's just life.

Having a sh***y life often leads to depression but it's not always the cause. You can live a relatively easy life and still end up with severe depression that makes your life a living hell. There are things that can go on in the brain beyond a person's control, processes that dull the amount of pleasure experienced from positive thoughts for instance.



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06 Feb 2009, 5:51 am

marshall wrote:
Hector wrote:
Clinical depression is a mental illness. There is nothing profound and rational about it, the point is that it is counter-rational and counter-productive.

It's neither rational nor counter-rational. Clinical depression has nothing to do with reason or thinking.

Huh? Surely it at least impairs judgment.



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06 Feb 2009, 12:18 pm

Hector wrote:
marshall wrote:
Hector wrote:
Clinical depression is a mental illness. There is nothing profound and rational about it, the point is that it is counter-rational and counter-productive.

It's neither rational nor counter-rational. Clinical depression has nothing to do with reason or thinking.

Huh? Surely it at least impairs judgment.

It does impair judgment sometimes. I'm just saying that positive thinking doesn't make the negative feeling or the mental exhaustion go away easily. It isn't irrational to feel depression if it's being generated chemically.