Hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations- anyone get this?

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11 Jan 2009, 10:04 pm

I get these all the time (even though I also hallucinate when I'm wide awake). Mine are totally bizarre, especially while waking up (the hypnopompic hallucinations) like a few days ago one of my model airplanes came alive and then took off and went through the ceiling. Then one time I got up and saw a helicopter in my room. A lot of the time I see different objects in my room while I am getting up (but not while going to bed). When I was in the hospital (I don't know if this counts because I was up for a few minutes before it happened but was still lying in bed) I saw a tiger moving about in my room. How many of you guys get this type of hallucination?



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11 Jan 2009, 10:09 pm

yeah i get that when i wake up after not getting alot of sleep, like if someone or an alarm is waking me up. the dream kind of continues even after im a awake and i feel like im getting ripped out of the dream. it gets me really dizzy and gives me a big headache for the next few hours too....



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11 Jan 2009, 10:15 pm

I don't think I've ever had a visual hallucination.

Hynopompic? Hypnogogic? I don't know what these words mean. :scratch:



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11 Jan 2009, 10:18 pm

As the greatest doctor on this planet will explain what these terms mean, I forgot to put it in my post....sorry I thought most people knew what they meant. Hypnagogic means hallucinating while trying to fall asleep, hypnopompic means hallucinating while getting up. Just remember I know all! Oh wait! That is one of my delusions!



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11 Jan 2009, 11:07 pm

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11 Jan 2009, 11:15 pm

I am. Its one of my "delusions." I know all! The world is going to end on my birthday which is February 19th. Just because I exist. It will be my fault.



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11 Jan 2009, 11:23 pm

Thank you for taking the rap for the world ending!
I was afraid it would all be dumped in my lap, again! :roll:

yes I used to get the Hypnagogic back when I first got sober. I just thought I was nuts, though.

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12 Jan 2009, 12:12 am

I once had a hallucination that someone (or something) had just opened my bedroom door and was standing in the doorway looking at me. Shortly after drifting off I woke up hearing these footsteps which came up to and then stopped immediately outside my bedroom door. I thought I felt a draft as if the door had been opened and I just froze in complete terror. Whatever it was it was out of my range of sight - though I kept thinking that I could see a shadow near the corner of my vision. I couldn't roll over to see what it was because I couldn't move any part of my body more than an inch. It was so terrifying. It didn’t feel like I was dreaming but I definitely wasn't fully awake either. I also remember my eyelids feeling extremely heavy and not being quite able to tell whether my eyes were open or shut.

When I finally managed to roll over I had this wave of tingling and lightheadedness come over me but I still had that weighted down feeling as if wasn't quite awake. I saw that the door was still shut but I was still going partially in and out of that frozen state where I couldn't fully move my body. I had an intense fear of getting sucked back into the same nightmare if I allowed myself to succumb to the grogginess.

I guess I eventually fell back to sleep without incident but of course I can't remember that. It was very weird.



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12 Jan 2009, 12:49 am

well, you know that sounds like feeling your 'sleep paralysis' in that state between dreaming and waking (called the etheric). Sort of low level dreaming, you think that things are happening on the physical plane, but you can't act in your physical body about it because you are in sleep paralysis and fighting against it. I remember thinking someone was pounding at the door and I couldn't get up, I couldn't MOVE and I was tossing myself from side to side but was a prison in my body. Actually I was just low level dreaming and feeling both my body and my dreams.

there is a scientific name for it and everything.

Paralysis while asleep is the normal condition. The body secretes hormones which relax certain muscles and prevent you from acting out your dreams. If it didn’t you would be in quite some danger every time you went to sleep.
The process of waking up might seem quite simple to you. But it’s actually a complex process involving many physiological changes. One of these is the reversal of the paralysis. People experience sleep paralysis when the hormone doesn’t wear off fast enough as they wake up. They remain paralysed though conscious. Because they have little sensation from their body, if they are lying on their backs, it can feel like someone is sitting on their chest. Eventually the paralysis departs and normal functions can be resumed.

There is an opposite disorder where people don’t get paralysed enough as they go to sleep. In a minor case this results in twitching and kicking while dreaming, but in a major case they can get up and walk around.

A side effect of this paralysis is that your bed feels a lot more comfortable in the morning when you wake up than it did when you first got into it. It hasn’t changed, your body is just less sensitive.

None of this should be considered evidence of anything paranormal
id find this about it



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12 Jan 2009, 3:58 am

FireBird wrote:
I get these all the time (even though I also hallucinate when I'm wide awake). Mine are totally bizarre, especially while waking up (the hypnopompic hallucinations) like a few days ago one of my model airplanes came alive and then took off and went through the ceiling. Then one time I got up and saw a helicopter in my room. A lot of the time I see different objects in my room while I am getting up (but not while going to bed). When I was in the hospital (I don't know if this counts because I was up for a few minutes before it happened but was still lying in bed) I saw a tiger moving about in my room. How many of you guys get this type of hallucination?


Do you take drugs?



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12 Jan 2009, 11:07 am

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FireBird wrote:
I get these all the time (even though I also hallucinate when I'm wide awake). Mine are totally bizarre, especially while waking up (the hypnopompic hallucinations) like a few days ago one of my model airplanes came alive and then took off and went through the ceiling. Then one time I got up and saw a helicopter in my room. A lot of the time I see different objects in my room while I am getting up (but not while going to bed). When I was in the hospital (I don't know if this counts because I was up for a few minutes before it happened but was still lying in bed) I saw a tiger moving about in my room. How many of you guys get this type of hallucination?


Do you take drugs?


if Firebird does, I would certainly like to know which ones! I have taken a lot of hallucnogens and only had dreams (when I didn't know I was dreaming) like that!



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12 Jan 2009, 11:16 am

I've got hypnagogic hallucinations, so when I try to fall asleep. Some are indeed bizarre. I have had this for as long as I can remember. I always thought they were signs I was falling asleep, in my theory I saw them because I was partly awake and partly sleeping/dreaming. I still had some consciousness, but I was already dreaming. Now I know these ''half-awake'' dreams (that's what I called them) are actually hallucinations. I don't think it's really an aspie thing, I'd say NT's have this too. Interesting, I thought I've never had any hallucinations! I was always hoping I'd have one, just to know what it's like.


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12 Jan 2009, 1:39 pm

slowmutant wrote:
FireBird wrote:
I get these all the time (even though I also hallucinate when I'm wide awake). Mine are totally bizarre, especially while waking up (the hypnopompic hallucinations) like a few days ago one of my model airplanes came alive and then took off and went through the ceiling. Then one time I got up and saw a helicopter in my room. A lot of the time I see different objects in my room while I am getting up (but not while going to bed). When I was in the hospital (I don't know if this counts because I was up for a few minutes before it happened but was still lying in bed) I saw a tiger moving about in my room. How many of you guys get this type of hallucination?


Do you take drugs?


No, only the drugs that the doctor prescribed to me. I also have Evil Schizoaffective disorder.



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12 Jan 2009, 1:43 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
well, you know that sounds like feeling your 'sleep paralysis' in that state between dreaming and waking (called the etheric). Sort of low level dreaming, you think that things are happening on the physical plane, but you can't act in your physical body about it because you are in sleep paralysis and fighting against it. I remember thinking someone was pounding at the door and I couldn't get up, I couldn't MOVE and I was tossing myself from side to side but was a prison in my body. Actually I was just low level dreaming and feeling both my body and my dreams.

there is a scientific name for it and everything.

Paralysis while asleep is the normal condition. The body secretes hormones which relax certain muscles and prevent you from acting out your dreams. If it didn’t you would be in quite some danger every time you went to sleep.
The process of waking up might seem quite simple to you. But it’s actually a complex process involving many physiological changes. One of these is the reversal of the paralysis. People experience sleep paralysis when the hormone doesn’t wear off fast enough as they wake up. They remain paralysed though conscious. Because they have little sensation from their body, if they are lying on their backs, it can feel like someone is sitting on their chest. Eventually the paralysis departs and normal functions can be resumed.

There is an opposite disorder where people don’t get paralysed enough as they go to sleep. In a minor case this results in twitching and kicking while dreaming, but in a major case they can get up and walk around.

A side effect of this paralysis is that your bed feels a lot more comfortable in the morning when you wake up than it did when you first got into it. It hasn’t changed, your body is just less sensitive.

None of this should be considered evidence of anything paranormal
id find this about it


Yea. I'm now pretty sure it was indeed sleep paralysis. The weird part about it is that I had some awareness that I might be dreaming yet I was unable to wake myself up and at the time I couldn't easily convince myself that I wasn't being watched/stalked in my sleep by something unfamiliar with a malevolent intent.



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12 Jan 2009, 2:04 pm

Yea I know what you mean, sometimes it even feels and looks like I'm in another dimension, or perhaps an alien spaceship. It's nothing really to be concerned about, because it's not real anyway. If anything it's just incredibly interesting most of the time. So I guess, just enjoy it when you can.



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12 Jan 2009, 6:37 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
Thank you for taking the rap for the world ending!
I was afraid it would all be dumped in my lap, again! :roll:

yes I used to get the Hypnagogic back when I first got sober. I just thought I was nuts, though.

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