I want to see Cho's video

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28 May 2009, 9:05 am

I'd like to see the entire footage of Cho's video before the Virginia Tech massacre. How would I go about doing this?


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28 May 2009, 10:21 am

That would make for fascinating study material. For those not "in the know" these are not videos of actual school shooting violence, but a series of 27 tapes in which the shooter attempts to justify his actions with various degrees of sanity.

As far as I know, these videos are the property of NBC news. If this is for a project, school study, or activism, you may be able to get them to release some or all of the content to you. I'm sure police have access or copies as well, you could probably get this if you have any media credentials (sorry, I know nothing of your background or intent here).

If you have no media connections and, for whatever reason, do not want to write NBC, then your best chance is going to be going to NBC's website to look for links and/or scanning torrent files for the footage.


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28 May 2009, 2:29 pm

I think that Cho's films should not be released into the public domain. I feel that there are some things which should never be made public out of respect for the innocent victims of the Killer. It is as sensitive as a letter written by the husband / son / parent of a person terminally ill with cancer begging for their loved one to be included in a clinical trial for a new anticancer drug.

Or as sensitive as Jack the rippers diary, should we be reading about Jack's glee at his murders if his diary was to turn up in London ? I would say that we should not read such a thing for fun.

I think that the release of such films should provoke great distress among the wounded, friends, families and co-workers of the dead. I feel very sad about the academic who was killed while protecting his students, I feel he is a heroic man and Cho should not have the ability to speak from beyond the grave through these films.

I think that the films should not be destroyed but turned over to a morally upright and serious academic within a psychology, criminality or human sciences department.


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28 May 2009, 2:43 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
I feel very sad about the academic who was killed while protecting his students, I feel he is a heroic man and Cho should not have the ability to speak from beyond the grave through these films.

I think that the films should not be destroyed but turned over to a morally upright and serious academic within a psychology, criminality or human sciences department.

His name is Liviu Librescu and I agree with you about his heroism. Here is a link that discusses his actions that day. He should be remembered more than that POS Cho.



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28 May 2009, 3:01 pm

What I want to know is if he somehow explained that we're all a bunch of spoiled jocks teasing ret*d babies.


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28 May 2009, 7:12 pm

Never going to happen. Maybe 40 years from now. He should have uploaded it to Usenet to avoid censorship.

As far as the public's right to seeing such a thing, I don't think that is for the media to decide, particularly with their unwritten motto "If it bleeds, it leads". There are so many questionable things now available for public consumption, I can't see this exceeding those boundaries. You can still watch Triumph of the Will.

Regarding concerns about motivating possible copycats, they will find their inspiration in any material that remotely shadows their intentions. Plus, maybe schools should be paying closer attention to the Darwinian ecosystem of their hallways and maybe this type of s**t wouldn't happen.


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28 May 2009, 9:55 pm

NBC has released some of this (apparently). Seems to be in the comments here: http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 57577.aspx. The commentator seemed decidedly nonplussed regarding the content.


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30 May 2009, 1:48 am

I want to see it too. f**k old media, cho should've uploaded all his stuff on thepiratebay or something. Pekka Eric-Auvinen uploaded all his stuff on rapidshare and some site has i all organized and whatnot.


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30 May 2009, 6:09 am

Woodpecker wrote:
Or as sensitive as Jack the rippers diary, should we be reading about Jack's glee at his murders if his diary was to turn up in London ? I would say that we should not read such a thing for fun.


How long should you have to wait? Everyone involved with Jack the ripper or connected to one of his victims is dead and burred now.



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30 May 2009, 10:04 am

In answer to the question about how long we should wait, I would say in some cases where the material has no redeeming features. The time we should wait is forever. Jack the ripper was such a gross creep that if his diary turned up I think that it should never be released.

By the way, I do not have a copy of Jack the Ripper's diary.

I am not alone in thinking that some things should never be released, the Judge at the Ruth Ellis case suggested that the photographs of the dead man should never be released to the public. I think that Ruth Ellis should not have been hanged, I think that jail would have been correct.

Too many doubts exist about that case, I think it could be manslaughter rather than murder.


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30 May 2009, 10:46 am

Woodpecker, wouldn't it be kind of sad if in his 27 tapes he described what's wrong with our whole society and why he went on his shooting, and we never even got to see them?

It's a difficult Catch-22, isn't it? You want to punish him. And yet without the tapes, we wouldn't even know in sufficient detail why he punished us.

You have to remember: he was the outcast. He was the one who had nothing to enjoy in life. So you can go-with-the-flow-and-ridicule-Cho or you can help us find a real solution.

Edit: 'You' here is in the plural, not just Woodpecker.


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