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Well, right from the same post of yours:



What do you mean by "you people". Would that be "fat people" or "autistic people"? Is there any context in which the phrase "you people" can be used in a non-bigoted fashion?

I am outraged by the behavior of you people. You should be ashamed of yourselves for talking like this. I never said ANYTHING prejudiced, I never attacked ANYONE for their weight, and yet you keep talking as if I have. PROVIDE EVIDENCE!

Well, here is one example, from the same post:

I only read Seventeen. I like the embarrassing stories in it and reading about Real Life section.I used to read Teen but I don't get them anymore. The others, I'll pass. Fashion is boring.
I also read Parenting magazines when I see one and yes, they also say the same thing about exercise. They saw how important it is for kids to get it and what parents can do to make it fun. They were saying do activities together. Well, that's what my family did with us. Sometimes we go for bike rides and did we suffer? No. We liked it. Well my little brother got tired. We would stop at the playground and play and have our lunches they packed.
We also went to places and that was how we got our exercise because we walked. Yes, our mother took us kids to Discovery Zone when I was 7-9. I also loved PE as a kid because I loved the games we played. As I got older, I started to hate it because it became sports. Whatever happened to crab soccer, floor hockey, tennis with balloons, freeze tag, traffic jam, clean out the backyard, and of course getting across the gym without touching the floor (You had to use mats and scooters), etc. Yes the teachers make PE fun for little kids but as they get older, they make it more serious and bam I hated it. Lot of kids hated it in my school. It made PE even more hell for me because they wouldn't participate. Thank god it was no longer required when you are in 11th grade and a senior in high school. I didn't take it in a heart beat, I did track though.

Whatever you felt as a kid about PE and other stuff, it doesn't mean that's how other kids feel about PE and other things they do.

But I do agree about people and eating disorders. They look at models and celebs and compare them to themselves and think they are fat when they are not. So they go on a crash diet and exercise excessively. In Hollywood, you have to wear a size 0 to be thin. If you don't wear that size, you are considered fat. But in the healthy community, if you wear a size 12, you are still healthy and still considered thin.

I watched a show on VH1 about celebrates and eating disorders. They are so pressured to be thin, they are starving themselves. They would eat a full meal and go right to working out until all the calories were burned off. They even exercise for a few hours everyday. That is unhealthy. Even doctors would say that is too much. What to celeb moms do after they have a baby? Go right to working out to get rid of the baby weight.
Look at Hilary Duff. She looked fine. Sure she had a little guy sticking out, I figured she could lose some weight to look better but she was not fat. But on the IMDB board about her and in movies she has been in, lot of people were saying she is fat and ugly. Then one day, I saw she had gotten very thin and looked unhealthy but it was in one of those magazines where they make up stories so I didn't beleive it until I saw it in another magazine. I don't blame her though. She was probably pressured and got sick and tired of the bashing she was getting from the internet, she decided she wanted to change it and got real skinny. Even doctors would say she is extremely unhealthy.


Thin people also get crap. Some of them get so pressured, they try to gain weight by snacking on junk food. But sometimes they have so high metabolisms, they just can't put on the weight, especially if they are athletic because they do sports or they are always doing things that require them to move around. They aren't sitting in front of the TV all day or the computer.

I have heard from thin people and about them about crap they get from people. They were so thin, people assumed they had an eating disorder even though they ate a lot of food. When I lived in Montana, I knew a co worker who got crap in high school. People thought she had an eating disorder and they followed her to the bathroom every time after lunch because they thought she threw up her food. But no she always had to go to the bathroom after lunch. She even tried to gain weight too but she could never put on a pound, no matter how much she ate.
I can even remember my high school English teacher telling us a story about someone she knew and how that girl also got crap from people. They all thought she had an eating disorder and she also ate like a pig. Did not throw up her food.

See it's not just fat people who suffer from people's judgments, thin people get it too.
I don't ever assume someone has an eating disorder just because they are fat or very thin. I don't even assume someone is lazy because they are fat. If they are out of the house walking around, that should tell everyone they don't sit around all day in front of the telly junking on food. They are outside doing something or why else would they be out in public?

So let's see, you got your "fact" about exercise, from a magazine aimed at teenagers, who surely do not have a monetary investment in seeing that women become thin, right. About the 12 year old, do you know if she's seen a doctor? A doctor, would be able to tell if her appearing as you say "pregnant" is due to overeating or not. It seems that people are willing to understand that adults have different body sizes, but aren't able to see that same reality in children. I suppose children have bodies that a person who isn't a doctor, someone can just look at and diagnose if that child has health problems? Well, I guess there's no need for pedatricians then. ?

There are children who live in families where the parents may either work during the day, and not have time to cook, or also due to having their time filled up aren't able to watch each and every bit that goes into their child's mouths. Are you purposing that parents who don't watch every morsel that goes into their children's mouths are bad parents? ?

As far as I know Hilary Duff was never fat, I'm gathering when you said she looks fat, what you meant is she actually showed having a stomach. :O The horror, a woman having a stomach that isn't flat, oh they must be unhealthy and need help and intervention! ?

As for Phys Ed being so wonderful for children, I refer you to this post:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt85068.html

Would you go there and tell that parent to force their child into Phys Ed for his well being?

Some people are prone to being overweight due to genetics... and I am one of them, and I also have PCOS... But overeating and eating bad stuff will simply make it worse. I used to really hate my body but now I am to the point of knowing that, no matter how little weight I lose after eating well, at least I will be healthy even if I will never be thin. You may also want to watch this video, I admire this woman.

Good video but I have a question for that woman, if there is nothing wrong with being fat, then why do people get so upset when they get called it when they really are or get told they are when they really are? If they are proud the way they are, they shouldn't get so upset when they get called it. I don't get upset when people say I have big boobs or I am thin because it's the truth. I wouldn't get upset if people said I have a big butt or my thighs are big. But everyone says I don't have one, even aspies. So it must be my low self esteem then of why I think that and I am just lying to myself.

Some people have disabilities. Perhaps you are on the wrong website to be pushing such a hard-nosed, hard line regarding obesity.

A lot of AS people do not have the coordination to have an easy time being athletic. And navigating the system to figure out where to go and how to begin fitness training is not any easier than any other thing that AS people might have to deal with in life. And maybe this is not the only thing the person has to deal with right now.

When you condemn and judge people, you make a lot of assumptions that maybe aren't applicable to the person's situation.

Good video but I have a question for that woman, if there is nothing wrong with being fat, then why do people get so upset when they get called it when they really are or get told they are when they really are? If they are proud the way they are, they shouldn't get so upset when they get called it. I don't get upset when people say I have big boobs or I am thin because it's the truth. I wouldn't get upset if people said I have a big butt or my thighs are big. But everyone says I don't have one, even aspies. So it must be my low self esteem then of why I think that and I am just lying to myself.

I think that in this case, you might have an inaccurate view of what team sports and athletics consists of. Just as people who despise obese people think that they should hate their physical condition. Team sports and athletics isn't about hate and low self-esteem.

I doubt she's pregnant. I know what pregnant looks like. They look different than tummies.
She had that tummy last year too and she still has it. Pregnancy does not last for over a year.




Oh good god, are you not literal? Where did I say that at? It's obvious you are adding words to what I said. I told about my experience, man. I did not say anything about other parents and my opinions on them. If you think there was more to my post, you're a fool then for trying to read between the lines because you sure do a bad job at it. I would advise you to stop trying since you do a bad job, it just causes trouble.




Read my post again. I never said she looked fat. I said "Sure she had a little guy sticking out, I figured she could lose some weight to look better but she was not fat."

I also have a little gut sticking out and I am fine with that but yet I am considered underweight by my doctors? Now they say I look fine since I am eating more food and I think I have recovered from anorexia. Luckily my weight stayed the same when I started to eat more food.



It's the law for kids to take PE. I don't make the rules. The state does. In Montana, Kids have to take PE but when they are a junior in high school, they don't have to take it anymore.
Yes there are accommodations. If the child is unable to do it because of their disability (eg. cerebral palsy, spina bifida, or their dyspraxia is so bad, they are unable to do the activities) they don't have to take it. I knew of some kids who didn't do PE but did physical therapy instead because of their disability. Oh yeah, if someone had an operation on their knee or had a bad knee because they injured it, they also don't have to take PE. I knew a kid like that in my high school and I envied her. And no I would not tell that parent to make their kid play basketball. Telling someone to play basketball when they aren't interested is like making someone go to a sports game and watch it when they aren't even interested.

I also hated PE as I said in my post because it was all sports. I loved it when I was little because it was fun and games. But then they take it all away when you get older. It's all sports by the time you are in middle school. That why I didn't take it in my senior and junior year, it was also because kids didn't participate and they wouldn't follow the rules. I am sure they would have since the class was now an elective but I still hated PE with passion so I didn't take it.

Good video but I have a question for that woman, if there is nothing wrong with being fat, then why do people get so upset when they get called it when they really are or get told they are when they really are? If they are proud the way they are, they shouldn't get so upset when they get called it. I don't get upset when people say I have big boobs or I am thin because it's the truth. I wouldn't get upset if people said I have a big butt or my thighs are big. But everyone says I don't have one, even aspies. So it must be my low self esteem then of why I think that and I am just lying to myself.

I think you need to read my post again:

So then you really don't understand why people do get upset when someone tells them, the body type they have means they're going to die, that they are pigs, that they are lazy, or gluttonous? That's what is said about fat people every single day. I also feel like thin people can complain to me about the prejudices they face, when they have segments on TV everyday about how to gain weight, and TV shows dedicated to fattening people up. Yeah, that's right every single day there's some new news story or reasoning of why being a fat person is so horrribly wrong, and the best thing to do is antagonize them until they become thin.


Just so you have a clearer view of what I'm saying. I was watching The View on ABC, now you can say "Well it's a show for women, what did you expect?", they started talking about weight. Congratulating each other over the victory and bravery of saying they were 200 pounds or more.

Do you really think this is what is so important in the world, for people to go on talking about how much someone weighs rather than seeing them first as a person? Do you think these shows are doing any service, other than bringing in more money from advertisers like Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers with their girlfriend gab about how OMG fat they are? If it really was about health, people would be talking about how healthy they are, not how much they weigh. Weight is not a direct measure of health. This just goes to show you the constant prejudice paraded around in the media regarding fat people. The way they talk as if it's just so horrible to be fat, how can you live with yourself being fat.

Just replace the word fat with the word Black and you'll see striking similarities to a prejudice that was accepted in the past.

So then you really don't understand why people do get upset when someone tells them, the body type they have means they're going to die, that they are pigs, that they are lazy, or gluttonous? That's what is said about fat people every single day. I also feel like thin people can complain to me about the prejudices they face, when they have segments on TV everyday about how to gain weight, and TV shows dedicated to fattening people up. Yeah, that's right every single day there's some new news story or reasoning of why being a fat person is so horrribly wrong, and the best thing to do is antagonize them until they become thin...

Sorry I was tired last night when I wrote that and I wasn't specifically talking about you. I was talking about those in general who have low self esteem not liking any feature about themselves, and weight is usually a big thing. And another thing to mention is, a lot of people are in denial about being overweight.. and that also comes from not dealing with what real issues are going on with them and they eat to "feel better" and don't want to face the consequences from overeating. Thats another reason that people would be offended if they were called fat. If they faced up to the truth and started looking within themselves more, they would be able to handle the truth better.