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I second that opinion ^ lol

It's just that SO many people who diet are doing it because of the way others think of them, not because they want to be healthy... It's like an autistic who's been pressured his whole life to be normal, thinking that normal's the only way if you want to be healthy... feeling bad about himself, hating himself because he can't change...

Confession: I'm trying to lose weight because I need to get past job interviews. I'm well aware that I will end up less healthy, but at least losing weight isn't as bad as trying to be neurotypical, because I'm not changing who I am, just what I look like.

If there weren't so much idiotic "you're fat so you must be lazy, unhealthy, undisciplined, incapable of hard work, and going to cost us a lot of health insurance" prejudice, I wouldn't be torturing myself. I probably won't be successful, but I need to work; I'm NOT spending my whole life on disability when I can work. I can gain it back when I have the job and have proved myself... but when you weigh 200 pounds, people see just the weight and nothing else.

Gee people are that stupid? If someone was truely lazy, why would they be in the office doing an interview?



Lot more people are overweight today, so it shouldn't matter if someone is overweight because it's becoming the norm. It's going to be harder to hire someone if they are only looking for thin people.

Yeah, people really are that stupid. Sociologists do stuff like this all the time: Grab a bunch of fat people and a bunch of thin people, grab a bunch of managers, and have them select the people they'd like to hire... overwhelmingly, they pick the thin people--even if the resumes are identical. Fat people are underemployed almost as badly as Aspies.

I've worked with fat people lots of times and they're no more likely to be lazy or undisciplined than anybody else, BTW. Actually, the hardest worker I ever met must've weighed 300 or so... she was the leader of a custodial crew I worked for, and she could clean circles round me, even though I perfected the thirty-second restroom-cleaning that summer... (You can do this if only a few people use the restroom that day--all you have to do is wipe the sink, wipe the toilet seats, grab the trash, and you're done. Two stalls and a sink in thirty seconds. I actually make a decent custodian, for the first couple of months on full-time before I get burned out. Eye for detail, y'see. Which makes me very slow at vacuuming, but hey, if you want it done right, get a detail-brained Aspie to do it...)

Check out the numbers. I calculated it on the last page.

To become 100 pounds overweight over a period of 10 years, you have to eat just 96 more calories per day than you burn. 96 calories is what's in an apple, basically. So unless you're gaining those 100 pounds much faster, or else gaining a lot more than 100 pounds, you're probably not "overeating" in any practical sense of the word. (Technically, you are, but by so little that it really doesn't fit the "pig out" stereotype at all.)

Also note 100 pounds is pretty extreme--most overweight people are along the lines of 20-50 pounds. And people who are 100+pounds over don't usually take only ten years to do it--they were fat kids, chubby adolescents, big adults... thirty, forty years to gain 200 pounds is just eating a little more than you need.

What's more, most people's appetites are actually bent a little towards eating too much--that extra apple used to be what you stored up for winter; but now we have enough food year-long, it's sticking around. Oh, and if you exercise more? Yep--your appetite goes up by the amount you burned.

That doesn't even touch the metabolic disorders and genetic differences that would make retrieving stored energy more difficult, or change the appetite balance so that you feel hungry longer, or make you expend less energy by making you tired.

Callista thank you very much for your posts. I'm glad to see someone else besides Ephemerella and I here explaining just the extent to which size prejudice exsists. The fact that you can be denied a job, simply for being a person of size is no less discriminatory then when they would deny people jobs based on their skin color.

This thread has pissed me off, as it has devolved in a series of claims without response or thoughtful discussion. It's all yours.


M.

Well that's usually what happens when you ask people to put their health propaganda aside, and learn to accept fat people simply as human beings.

Please, by all means - show me where I've spouted health propaganda. Again - I am asking, and this is not a rhetorical question.

We are all human beings; we're all different. There are healthy people who are skinny and healthy people who carry considerable excess weight; there are unhealthy individuals of all extremes as well. I want to be healthy, not skinny - something you apparently see fit to ignore through this thread. The size of a person has no basis on whether I consider them friend or foe, talented or mediocre, hard-working or a slacker. Certain jobs and situations, yes - there is cause for concern, but not discrimination. Thus far, you've shown the most intolerance herein, and have consistent refused to answer or engage others who question or have a different standard than you - something to consider. Would that make you a "thinkist"?


M.

I don't see why you insist on making this a personal matter.

It isn't personal - I've repeatedly asked questions which you've refused to answer while insisting that others are "size-ist" or assigning other labels because they don't agree with you. It doesn't matter who you are - I'm addressing the scenario in this thread alone.


M.