This guy pissed me off

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So I asked for people to be close-minded to the reality that you can be fat and fit? I asked for people to laugh at facts that support this point? I asked for people to take this matter as a personal affront, rather than being able to see the overreaching problems that result from fat prejudice? I never asked for that, I just asked for understanding. I thought seeing as we're all Aspies, and understand what it's like to live a life where you are treated as lesser, you'd be understanding and compassionate in regards to fat prejudice.

Instead you want to see me as a campaigner against living healthy and having choice. Well when you think that, just be grateful you are able to have that choice. I'm not and fat people like me are not. We don't get to choose how to live our lives, or feed our bodies. Not without people assuming that because we're fat we must be unhealthy and we must not know how to take care of ourselves.

Well there are some things about myself and some of my situations that I cannot change either that I wish I could, and the only thing that I can do is to ACCEPT it! You need to work on doing the same for yourself. What pissed me off about what you said was you putting me down for falling into the "fat myth".. so what?? I made a mistake and LEARNED from it.. and you never answered my question.. have YOU ever made a mistake in your life? The way you speak I would have to say never!

As far as having a choice go, it's not right to resent those who want to lose weight for their own personal reasons. And you may not know it but you have choices yourself. You are dead set on believing that your weight is due to 100% genetics. It maybe but how do you REALLY know that? Have you ever been to a dr to confirm that? How do you know your thyroid is working properly? How do you know there is not some medical thing getting into the way of your weight loss? I mean have you actually thought about these things? No probably not because you are set in your ways.

Nah, it's not 100% genetics; it's culture, too. I mean, think about how people around here define food! There are "sinful" foods, and it's considered naughty to overindulge... forbidden fruit, anyone? Anytime a group of people get together, you can almost guarantee that food will be part of social interaction--donuts and coffee at a meeting; Thanksgiving dinner with the family; cookies in Sunday school. Those who are thin are assumed to have self-control and dedication. On TV, it's almost unknown for a fat woman to have a romantic role, or a fat man to be the hero of a story. Fatness is used for comedy; the best you'll get is sidekick. Thinness is considered to be synonymous with beauty and sex appeal.

End result: We end up wanting food for more than just nourishment; but we also idealize thinness. And that results in a huge problem: Either don't eat and you feel deprived, or you eat and you feel ugly; and whether you're fat or thin, you're bound by a stereotype. I have known people to avoid losing weight simply because they did not want to be seen as sex objects...

There's so much sociological stuff going on here that it's very easy for a psychological problem to combine with whatever genetics you've got to cause either over- or under-eating, or for that matter to cause both as in bulimia; or to cause someone to obsess over "healthy food" and end up with (not-yet properly defined, but definitely exists) "orthorexia"...

And even when there isn't an actual disorder, the average person feels pressure from both sides. Eating has a lot more emotional connections than it needs to have. It's a bodily function, and yet we've made it out to be a hundred things more...

For anyone who doesn't think fatness is genetic for some people, my boyfriend told me doctors found a gene to it. They are going to make some medicine for it. I would assume that's true because he watches the science channels.


So I had figured fat was genetic because I would see it running in families. If a parent is fat, it is likely the kids will be fat too when they are older. I might be fat someday because I have relatives who are overweight but used to be skinny before they had kids, my mother too but she was thin when I was a baby until she had my brothers. She says I won't be if I take really good care of myself and work out and eat healthy, don't snack on junk food and sweets.



I had an aunt who lost weight but then she gained it back. My mother has lost some weight over the years.

'sigh' another thread where one noob jumps in and literaly forces their oppinion onto others. With effort! Please.. (not you sertraOD, not you OP) As I recall, the thread was written about a reply being stuffy...

Uh Violet Yoshi has been here for a while.