Do you like dictionaries/thesauruses?

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AnnePande
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03 Oct 2009, 8:27 am

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i dont like how general turkish is.


I'm not sure what you mean... general in which way?


sorry, i should have specified.
i mean the words are very general. the language cant go into much detail. for example, there is no distinguishing between turtle and tortoise. flakes and scales are the same....there are some words that mean 5 different things or so, but i cant remember them.


OK, thanks for the explanation.

BTW here is the vid with Dinle / Kaj Voldum. I like the song in itself too. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ROpqwT7Xyk

Edit: I found another song "translated" into English in a similar way (Dudu, by Tarkan).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sW_fGHAsYQ

(Sorry for all the offtopic stuff. :P )



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03 Oct 2009, 12:54 pm

I'm absolutely in love with dictionaries :D



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03 Oct 2009, 1:14 pm

thanks or the videos, but i cant watch them. youtube is banned over here :/



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03 Oct 2009, 2:33 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
thanks or the videos, but i cant watch them. youtube is banned over here :/


Oh that's a shame. :( There's so much interesting stuff there.



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03 Oct 2009, 3:23 pm

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thanks or the videos, but i cant watch them. youtube is banned over here :/
You could try this proxy: https://youtubeproxy.org/default.aspx?prx=http://www.youtube.com


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03 Oct 2009, 7:00 pm

it might work, but it's quite iffy.
if Annepande can tell me the exact name of the video, than i can see it on this website called yasaktube. it's like youtube but sucks more. XD



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05 Oct 2009, 5:22 am

The exact names are Mahsun Kırmızıgül: Dinle, and Tarkan: Dudu. :)
But they probably don't have the "translation" version of Dudu.
Anyway, both songs are great, even though I don't understand the lyrics. :D But have found translations on other websites.
Think I've come to like Turkish pop through those crazy interpretations. :P

Edit:
http://yasaktube.net/video+izle.php?tag ... 4AEpOvD1xA

http://yasaktube.net/video+izle.php?tag ... tJGJP50zNw

Anyway, I couldn't watch them at Yasaktube. Hope it works for you.

Edit again:
In fact, they had the interpretation version
http://yasaktube.net/video+izle.php?tag ... sW_fGHAsYQ

... and even the Kaj Voldum version of Dinle!! 8O 8O

(sorry for all my confused posting... :? )



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05 Oct 2009, 11:43 am

haha, thanks. :D. i'll look at them
actually turkish rap is suprisingly good for well...rap. it just sounds better than english.



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05 Oct 2009, 11:44 am

Indeed I do!



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05 Oct 2009, 1:56 pm

Yep, I love dictionairies, thesauruses, encyclopedias, atlases and books that cover certain areas of interest, like books about plants, birds and philosophy. Examples of the last three are for instance; 'Perennial plant' by Alan Bloom, the well known Petersons 'a field guide to the birds of Britain and Europe' and Bertrand Russells 'The history of western philosophy and it's.... '. Okay, B. Russell elaborates a tad more but these are examples of books that give one the necessairy info in a sort of straight to the point manner. Same with encyclopedias and that's a thing I like a lot.

I think I prefer my books above the internet even.

(maybe went a little off topic here but hey.... )



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05 Oct 2009, 2:37 pm

as a language teacher i use dictionaries all the time, my hands are so used to turning these pages.

my desktop has an english one (no, no mac but linux user)
with a thesaurus, i wish i could have one in my language and in french as well (maybe i can but never searched for it)

if i had more money, i'd put dictionaries in every place to have them close by any time i need it

for cool words, you need french, that's one of the most beautiful (but also most complicated) language there is.

this is an online dictionary i use quite often
http://www.mijnwoordenboek.nl/EN/

(and ow, yeah, maybe you other dictionary lovers can share your dictionary links too?)



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05 Oct 2009, 6:12 pm

I like dictionaries more than thesauruses cos with dictionaries you get word origins plus you get some proper nouns that don't have any synonyms. Thesauruses are great if you're trying to do a crossword. I am useless at coming up with synonyms in my head.



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06 Oct 2009, 6:53 pm

I have always loved dictionaries. Also thesauruses, atlases, maps, and encyclopedias. When I was about 12, my mother bought a complete set of encyclopedias. I set out to read every one of them, starting with the beginning and working through. I still remember that the first entry in the first book, was Aachen, a town in Germany. :)


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26 Oct 2009, 4:07 pm

heya hartzofspace
(i've been in Aachen, very possible it was when I was about 12 :) )



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26 Oct 2009, 11:06 pm

lemon wrote:
heya hartzofspace
(i've been in Aachen, very possible it was when I was about 12 :) )


Amazing! Is there where I use the cliche, "Small World, isn't it?" 8)


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26 Oct 2009, 11:40 pm

Noone's mentioned the Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable? I've wasted many hours thumbing through this. Pretty much any old phrase or classical name you can think of will be explained in here, amazing book that's perfect for coffee tables, bathrooms and reference libraries. It's probably the best books ever for knowitalls, pedants and such :) started using it when I was trying to read James Joyce, gave up on Joyce and continued with the Dictionary.

this review from Amazon says it all

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Once upon a time, Brewer's used to sit on my bookshelf gathering dust. It was, I felt, the sort of book that, as a lover of reference books, one ought to own … but, I realised, I never actually USED it. Then, one day, I took it down, blew off the dust and looked up something, I think I was truing to glean some additional in formation about heraldry. Four hours later, I came up for air, having spent a blissful afternoon doing the literary equivalent of “surfing” - following one cross reference to another from Greek mythology, through theology, Harry Potter, sporting slang, Tudor eating habits, demonology, pop groups, Somerset folk lore and much more besides.

I then took the book to bed and proceeded to read it cover to cover (not at one sitting I hasten to add). I know of no other reference books with which one could do this without eventually dying of fatigue or terminal boredom. I emerged exalted, educated and converted. There may be little logic or reason behind the eclectic, eccentric, inconsistent criteria for inclusion and exclusion but, once you have grasped the spirit, if not the law, behind them you will fall in love with the book, occasional inaccuracies and all. This explains why it defies the internet, literary competition and remains in print to this day, loved like a faithful if slightly dippy ancient family dog by all those who have taken the time to explore between its idiosyncratic pages.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brewers-Diction ... 984&sr=8-1


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