Planning to go to Heaven next week!! !! !! !! !!

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Hi guys and gals, I'm writing this post as I've been thinking about something very important.....

The fact is that in a few days from now I MAYBE (and stress on the MAYBE part) go and kill myself!

Now I hope that you don't think I'm some sort of nutcase for saying this (even if I am), as although killing myself is going to make a lot of people suffer (I have a large family abet an extened one and quite a few friends) I've been thinking about this for quite some time.....

If you have read my posts on the thread that I started about us having partners in Heaven then I think that my reasoning would be clear to you all.....

Don't get me wrong I've had a very good life (all things considered) but I as I'm in need of a partner very badly I'm willing to toss my own life away in order to get my hearts desire met!! !! !

It would really be their problem for them to suffer and not mine, and anyway I'll try and help them as best i can (e.g. visiting them in dreams and the like)

Also although it's a sin as I'm dieing I'll no doubt regret my desidion and so all I'd have to do is ask for forgiveness and thus excape Hell

However this may not come to pass because as it happens one of my mates is a girl that I get along with very well (of whom I mat have told you about in the past) and if she takes up my offer I won't take my own life, she won't know this unless she gave me the answer "No!" Then she'll get a guilt trip and if that does not work, she'll be told the full facts that I have told you above.

If she chooses to have me she'll have saved my life (even though if you think about it there's no such thing as death as the Soul is eturnal after all) and my loved ones a lot of sorrow, if not then it would be all her fault and she'll have to live with it for the rest of her days.

I hope it does not come to this, but next time I meet her will be her last chance.

Goodbye, Till Next Time?

boosterjones, you really shouldn't kill yourself. You've persuaded yourself that when you die you'll go to heaven and get to have loads of sex, but how do you know that you're right? Have you considered the awful possibility that you are in fact wrong? What if the afterlife is nothing like you wanted it to be?

You say that right before you'll kill yourself you will ask to be forgiven, so you don't have to go to hell... but have you thought about the fact that you can't ask to be forgiven if you're planning not only on sinning, but on profiting by your sin? I'm not saying suicide is a sin, but in your case it would be. You know it would cause pain to your family and friends, you know it will make this girl feel guilty... and yet you want to do it anyway, because your desire for heaven is greater than your compassion for others. Now, I'm Christian, and I'm worried that if you kill yourself like this you'll go to hell, but there are atheists on this board who will tell you that when you die, that's it. If they're right, then when you die there will be a big lot of nothing forever, and all the joy you might have experienced in life will be lost.

Whichever one of us is right, the Christian or the atheist, killing yourself involves terrible loss. Either hell or nothingness forever.

The majority of the world believe one of those two propositions. What makes you think that you alone are right? What if the atheists or Christians are right? It's too great a risk to take.

What you're saying is not healthy, it's not wise. I'm worried that as well as AS you might have an underlying mental health problem.

GET HELP.

And don't betray your family. My mother killed herself twenty years ago, and I'm still not over it, never will be. The effect of that death has rippled out through our family, causing depression, other suicide attempts... suicide is contagious. You don't want to leave that as your legacy in life.

Ah huh....seriously mate you need to htfu.

Hope your not right about there being an afterlife where you find your partner. I had a mate shot himself........He has made me suffer more than you can obviously comprehend. If there is an afterlife i"ll be looking for him to equal the score, and anyone like him. That means you too.....I'll see you on the other side which ever path you choose......Lets hope its as friends.

Peace ellomo

Sorry but killing yourself is self-murder you can't be 100% sure that you're going to Heaven. I suggest you wait it out to see God's plan for you, and find your soul-mate here on Earth. You'll have time to go to Heaven later. Get some help or call the suicide hotline. They are very caring people, trust me on that. They spend loads of hours doing training and they are volunteering; they actually want to be there to help you. So please, call one of them and just hang on; you'll find your soul-mate on Earth.

Thank you for your advice, you are right that it is wrong to kill yourself, however as for your first statement (about the afterlife not being what I'd hope it be like) let me say that I've had a few others say this, and it does not wosh with me, sorry to put it like that but if Heaven is perfect then EVERYONE (who goes there) will have whatever their hearts deisre otherwise it would not be Heaven wouln't it?

If that were the case (and I'm sure that it's not as God's more than willing to make people happy) then I'd make such a fuss (with or without superpowers) that He'd have just two options open to Him.

1, Send me to Hell,

2. Give me what ever I ask for just to shut me up.

I think that God would (and will do) the latter however not just because of the fuss I'd make but because He loves me, like He does everyone else.

If I'm wrong and there really is nothing at the end of it all then I'd know no better as I'd no longer exsist!

I'm not saying that I will do this and I'm sorry to hear about what happened to your mother, but one could say that all this girl has to do is give me the answer I'm hoping to get from her and she'll be doing a great and good deed in the sight of God. If she dies and does not learn to love me (which I'm sure, or rather hope, she will love none the less) then God will reward her for saving my life, and I'll get someone else to 'take her place' (for want of a better term) if we do end up loving each other then that's fine too, as she'll only have began her life together under a shadow of fear.

It may not even come to telling that I'd kill myself if she does not get together with me, as I could just tell her that I was really upset over her not getting together with me (I asked a her few weeks ago and she said "no") and she'd only need that in order to make her see that she's responable for a lot of misery for myself along with my friends and family (as they are upset over my sorrow)

Whatever happens she needs to know the conquenes of her actions, the only reason why I must do this is due to the fact that she (as it happens) has AS and although she's a very careing and kind girl, due to the contition sometimes you've (sadly) got to do this kind of thing to her make her see reason.

Yes it is kind of like bullying and I don't like doing this one bit but if it has to be done then it would have to be done.

If our posstions were reversed than I'd certenly do the desent thing and give her what she'd ask for.

Goodbye Till Next Time

Suicide is considered (at least in my branch of Christianity) to be among one of the worst sins someone can commit, because once you're dead, it's judgment time. There's no time left for repentance. So if you do kill yourself, the possibility that you may be sent to Hell for it is very real.

There is nothing in the Bible that says you are guaranteed a partner in Heaven. My parents have told me that the dynamics and natures of relationships as we know them on Earth will most likely be very different in Heaven. The nature of Heaven itself is beyond comprehension, because God's way of thinking is not human's, so while you may be thinking "Heaven = hot wife", there is probably a lot more to it than that.

Also, your attitude of "I know I will hurt a lot of people but it's their problem to deal with the grief" is very selfish. I'm sure your family and friends would be very disappointed in you for wanting to kill yourself over something so trivial like wanting to have a girlfriend and not getting one.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a bit too harsh, but I really don't want you to kill yourself over this. It's not worth it. Remember the story of Job - he was a lot worse off than you and he never gave up his life (or his faith), and God blessed him for it. If you stay alive and faithful to God, He will surely bless you too. It might take awhile, but as they say, patience is a virtue.

Well then, why not just ask her what *she* wants, then *voluntarily* shut up!

If you are going to play "God" in someone's life, at least act as you seem to believe He should.

Don't do it. I'll miss you, and your posts, if you do.

You sure you want to go clubbin in Liverpool? If thats your scene i'd probably slit my wrists too its god awful music they play there.

Wow, you are trying to force someone to love you by threatening to kill yourself. Something tells me you have some failed logic there. Go talk to her and leave out the I'm gonna kill myself stuff and see what she says. Maybe there is a spark and maybe not. Go to the next girl if not.

I worked as a nurse in a nuthouse for a short while. I used to deal with suicidal folks all the time. Most of the time, they want to kill themselves over something stupid. Like their boyfriend dumped them, or they got an F on a term paper or something. Rarely there would be one that was so messed up I was tempted to help them. Based on what you've said, your in the former category not the latter.

I suggest you don't kill yourself over a girl. That's stupid. The TRUE love of your life may be just around the corner and you'll never get to meet her if you are dead. Its not easy for aspies to have relationships, but many aspies have, including your parents, which proves that it CAN be done.

But not every Asie succeeds. I as a 28 year old who has never had a girlfriend find it highly immoral that being an adult I don't have adult things going for me. Its disgusting, its criminal. Any Aspie that reaches a certain age and doesn't have certain things, I believe have the MORAL RIGHT to end their own lives.

Maybe, but they don't have the moral right to hold the threat of suicide over another human being, and guilt trip them into having sex against their will. They don't have the moral right to make others feel guilty and responsible for their suicide.

What this poster is talking about doing to the girl he's pursuing is little short of emotional rape. "If you don't go with me I'll kill myself." Some poor girl might actually fall for that.

If God is love, how is He going to react to such hatred? If God loves the girl this poster is bullying, how is he going to respond to the bully?

People throw "God is love" around all the time, and don't think what it means. I'm a mother, I love my son. If anyone hurt him, I'd come down on them like a fury from hell. That's what love is.

If a human being intentionally causes pain and anguish to another human being, how is God going to respond to the bully? If He is love, then He's going to respond as any loving Father, and crush the bully into the dirt.

I think the OP has a wrong idea of God... he thinks He's a weak parent, who gives in to a whining brattish child. God's not that kind of Father at all. There is a reason for the proverb, "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom."

If the OP learns to fear God then perhaps he'll have the wisdom not to piss all over another human being, like he was a dog marking his territory.

I hope the girl he's after turns him down, personally, and that he realises how wrong and evil his behaviour is.

And I'm not sorry for being harsh. I've been talked out of suicide by someone speaking just as harshly to me. Sometimes it's what the person needs to hear.

If you kill yourself, your blood is on your own head, nobody else's.

Why do you think Heaven exists?

...and even if you do, Christian doctrine indicates that suicides go to Hell.

And here I thought you were going to visit a beach or some "heaven on earth" next week or something.

Dun dooooo eeeeeeet. I was considering ending my life a few weeks earlier and thank God I didn't because I was asked out in the next few days by someone I met on the internets. Besides, if I would have killed myself, it would have ruined my mother. So don't do it, think about your poor mom and relatives.

^ Exactly....Thousands of us have been affected by suicide in some way. It's a selfish and cowardly choice, in my opinion.

Meh...I s'pose, though, You've got every right to do, to yourself, whatever floats you...but leave the poor girl out of it!

^^^ Mgran, I agree, God isn't that easily pressured.

When I was feeling suicidal, He spoke to me, but it was primarily over my reason for my suicidalness, not because I was going to kill myself. I sensed that He actually finds my spiritual condition far more important, not what happens to my physical body.

Boosterjones, the Bible actually says that in Heaven "we shall be like angels" as in, the angels aren't married, and they don't have sex. Thus shall we be too. Though if you kill yourself, if you haven't been forgiven of your sins, you will end up in Hell. That is a risk you don't want to take, because once done, it is irreversable.

And also, if you kill yourself, your effort will just backfire. Over time she would recover from it, and she will move on. She will have a life and a family, while your body rots in its tomb. She will have everything, while you ultimately get nothing.
But, if you live, you will have a chance to find someone, to live life the way it should be. You won't have that if you're a corpse.