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18 Nov 2010, 3:48 am

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I have weird weird dreams randomly. A few months ago I was having a dream that I cant remember but right before I woke up I remember that I felt like I was flying really fast from somewhere and was 'sucked' back into my physical body the moments before I woke up. It was like how a genie gets sucked back into his lamp. Another time I had the exact sensation but right before I woke up, I saw myself standing at the foot of my bed pointing at me (I was in bed) with a angry look on my face....that really really REALLY creeped me out.

you seem psychic to me. you are probably an old soul. less experienced souls generally don't have your abilities. i believe you were astrally travelling in your "dreams" and you were angry at your physical body because it kept sucking you back in just when you were starting to have fun in your astral travels.

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18 Nov 2010, 9:43 am

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When thinking of super-natural existence the first thing I think of is does it defy reality and physics? It's natural for some people to want and believe in the existence of lingering spirits. However no physical evidence really suggests it's possible.. To understand and perceive reality in the human form, you haveto be human or of higher intelligence.. I don't see how that can transcend from nothing. However, being human I do believe that theirs things we can't comprehend nor understand - we live with our senses but what's beyond that ? Do the electrons in our universe that sporadically appear actually do intertwine through different dimensions, or are they really created from nothing? Perhaps they're created through means we haven't discovered .. I don't dismiss that spirits of the deceased seize from all existence, but can it be in-tuned with any descendants of earth ? It's a thought.. because in the beginning, we where all one.

It's all down to interpretation.

one interpretation could be:

How can people listen to Motzart if he is dead? His spirit and soul must live on.

Another:
The patterns people are seeing are just random clusters in synaesthetic experiences?

and keeping going.

if you triangulate from nothing using random and an injection to say, the axiom of choice you can come up with the properties of an electron.
I don't think it's possible to have an actual electron, it's more a probabilistic modal measurement of dynamic flux. (see Heisenberg's uncertainty principal for instance, wave particle duality, string theory etc...).

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18 Nov 2010, 1:31 pm

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I don't believe in Ghosts at all, but it was still a bit bracing.

Wow. If I didn't believe in ghosts, your experiences sure as heck would've made a believer out of me (I mean, if I had experienced them for myself) @_@

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Sometimes I feel the 'vibe' of a place. its like the fung shuei (idk how to spell it) of the atmosphere of places and they are generally of these vibes- happy, sad and empty, devoid of any overly good or bad vibe but naturally beautiful and untouched by humankind, or outright malevolent and creepy.

I had that at my friend's dad's house. It always just felt like the chi was way off or something, like something was wrong in that house...

I can't remember if it changed or not when they moved a few blocks East from there.

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18 Nov 2010, 1:56 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:

oliverthered wrote:

I don't believe in Ghosts at all, but it was still a bit bracing.

Wow. If I didn't believe in ghosts, your experiences sure as heck would've made a believer out of me (I mean, if I had experienced them for myself) @_@

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Ghost penguins and Lions and Horses.

Ok sure where I life did used to have Lions and Horses many many moos ago, but I don't believe there have ever been any kind of penguins in geological history.

I was a believer for about a minute or two, absolutely crapped the hell out of me.
It wasn't that the looked like spirits or anything, it was that they felt like death, like I was looking at the face of death.

I've had a load of other sleep deprivation stuff, and as times got happier happier things came about.

Like bubbles in glasses like champaign, or my feet glowing covered in neon blue kind of fur, and glowing.

'also, coke ticks' like iron filings or something, thought they where flees of sorts at first. (well for a second or two).

loads of other weird and wonderful stuff.

Lasted around 6 months or so.
I don't recommend 5-6 years of anti-psychotics, with trauma in-between (caused by the social and work implications thoughtlessness, lack of pleasure, inability to reason through any issues etc... that the meds caused) followed by a 2 month high then 6 months of tripping out (illusions).

I've been off them a year now, almost nearly back to somewhere near before I went on them. a once in a life time trip I hope!

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18 Nov 2010, 5:43 pm

I'll say it like this for, I wish not to be seen as a heretic or something.Yes, there is another world which exists within our yet, just like ours it's not so easy to define it nor map it's entirety.2nd, Yes, one could say, I know things of the otherside but, I keep this to myself out of comon sense and not wanting to cause any havor nor hostility among people..

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18 Nov 2010, 9:32 pm

Stone_Man wrote:

Do you believe in 'em?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVgQvDS3Qc[/youtube]

I think there's lots of things that get credited to things like ghost because people do not know the real causes.

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19 Nov 2010, 1:49 am

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tangomike wrote:

Wow! For the longest time, even as a child I felt very very mature and wise, although thats prob just the aspergers and how we percieve the world- nowadays ppl i know and my friends say I think and act like an old man most of the time. Like someone whos already gone through life and is just taking it easy because I already did this and that...which is weird because i have pretty limited experiences, im only 20 and even then I havnt lived a life of a normal outgoing teen/young adult, though I have had my share of significant social success.

I actually thought about what the 'angry me' pointing at me coulda meant...I was thinking it was more like my guardian soul (the old soul) expressing his/her/its discontent with how I've been living my life (my physical young body/young soul). Maybe it was merely my subconscious expressing anger at myself for being weak the past year of my life (letting myself fall into depression, smoking tons of pot to escape life, destroying friendships and being reclusive)

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19 Nov 2010, 8:37 am

I never trust myself when I'm half-asleep.

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20 Nov 2010, 1:35 am

I don't believe in ghosts. Never have.

Many years ago I was sitting in my living room with a glass of wine. It had been long day at work (probably in the office until 9 or 10 pm). My relaxation was interrupted by a strange sound. It was high pitched and resonant, like a weird song. I tried to relax but couldn't get this sound out of my head. I wandered into the kitchen and found my wife slitting her wrist with blood dripping onto the floor.

I understand that she was depressed, but I have never understood what made that sound.

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20 Nov 2010, 11:37 am

When I was younger I once saw a number of "ghosts" of people in old-fashioned clothes sitting or standing on the side wall of my house close to my bedroom windows. I think they were the ghosts of people who used to live in my house in the distant past.

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20 Nov 2010, 11:43 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MO2ShVBV0

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20 Nov 2010, 5:56 pm

nick007 wrote:

Stone_Man wrote:

Do you believe in 'em?

I think there's lots of things that get credited to things like ghost because people do not know the real causes.

Yep. The old argument that of "well, there's simply no other explanation" doesn't hold much water.

In my case, I freely admit I have no idea what causes the Ghost Hiker. I only know it's not a hallucination on my part. No doubt, there's a proper explanation for it. In the meantime, however, I'll still call him the "Ghost Hiker"

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22 Nov 2010, 8:54 am

oliverthered wrote:

I've had a load of other sleep deprivation stuff, and as times got happier happier things came about.

Ah, yeah, I've heard about extreme sleep deprivation causing hallucinations, but I'm not sure if I'd ever want to try it for myself...

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22 Nov 2010, 9:50 am

SabbraCadabra wrote:

oliverthered wrote:

I've had a load of other sleep deprivation stuff, and as times got happier happier things came about.

Ah, yeah, I've heard about extreme sleep deprivation causing hallucinations, but I'm not sure if I'd ever want to try it for myself...

24 hours was enough, because I wasn't getting deep sleep and stuff properly.

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23 Nov 2010, 3:34 pm

I've gone 24 hours once or twice before, but the only thing that happened was I got sick :oops:

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01 Jan 2011, 7:56 pm

I've heard the ghost hiker, too. Many times. I don't know what it is, but I know it's not a hallucination or an echo. My best guess is that it's the flutter of bird's wings.

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