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oliverthered
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09 Dec 2010, 7:13 pm

TheAnthropologist wrote:

I saw the Thread at WP:ANI, and here to discuss what is going on. I also have Aspergers and as unaware of this Forum

Anything I can do here?

Resident Anthropologist

ahh.. was that the one I put up.

either way thanks! and thanks again I can go to bed now...

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09 Dec 2010, 7:16 pm

Actually some ones cleaning up your biography and looks like it will be kept and not deleted.
So lets focus on the Radio station... Are there any sources about the station?

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09 Dec 2010, 7:21 pm

I'm not really in a position to help out any more, as a real WP admin is here (I've had a lot of experience admining other wikis, so could help in a limited respect.)

Basically follow his advice. WP's rules are nightmarish and byzantine, and often don't make much sense. These people who deleted your pages aren't out to get you, they are merely doing their job in WP. This isn't a conspiracy, just overworked WP admin who may have made a blunder.

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09 Dec 2010, 7:33 pm

samsa wrote:

WP's rules are nightmarish and byzantine, and often don't make much sense. These people who deleted your pages aren't out to get you, they are merely doing their job in WP. This isn't a conspiracy, just overworked WP admin who may have made a blunder.

Hehe Byzantine, thats amusing.
No one IMHO joins Wikipedia and just starts contributing. I started over a year ago and its taken the better part of nine months to learn "all the rules"

The first 3 months were nothing more than hazing, though NOT intentional or malicious on any ones part.

You learn from mistakes on Wikipedia.

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09 Dec 2010, 7:38 pm

Thanks for you guys support, I've placed a comment into the discussion under my real name, and noted that I couldn't do any edits, due to a conflict of interest. Noting the replies you got on Wikipedia, they seems to be rather narcky on their rules and policies, yet incredibly they seem to hammer this with only selected articles, very contradictive in deed.

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09 Dec 2010, 7:42 pm

To Nuujinn on wikipedia,

I got your message, but have no idea on replying. As soon as I clicked on talk, I just got what looks like is your wikipedia page.

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09 Dec 2010, 7:48 pm

OK, perhaps I can help as well. Seen this on Wikipedia (where I am an editor...NOT an admin) and also have Aspergers.

First off, please do not create anymore accounts. This is seen as sockpuppetry and could lead to more blocks. A block is not a ban. Your account, Whitewater111, is unblocked as of a couple moments ago. Please edit via that account and only that account.

Second, I recommend working with the editors here from Wikipedia and the folks on Wikipedia. They are willing to help.

Third and I hate to say this, normally articles about online radio stations are deleted as "non-notable". For stations like "WSFM 101.7" (that you mentioned on ANI) it is a licensed radio station and being one, it has notability. This is the way it is typically seen. Only stations that have third party sources, like from newspapers, television stations and other media outlets will increase the notability. Please don't add sources to blogs or forums (sorry WrongPlanet) they are seen as unreliable sources since they are written (and edited) by anyone.

Fourth, if you have any questions, please let me know. I am willing to help as well.

Take Care,

DudeFromVA

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09 Dec 2010, 8:13 pm

DudeFromVA wrote:

Sorry DudeFromVA, if sometimes I come across as somewhat short. My articles have been on Wikipedia for over a year now, and if there was a serious issue of notability, I would of thought they would of been deleted at the time of appearing.

I find it strange how all three of my articles were targeted in the space of a week. It's almost like I've pressed someones buttons, and now they are on a compagne of rage against me for some unknown reason. I find it difficult to talk on wikipedia, as some of those admins have a righteous opinion, and in the end, it turns out to be a battle of wills.

Sorry to sound dramatic, but the analogy of this situation is trying to argue with a man with a gun, it doesn't matter what you say, they're going to fire it anyway if they don't get their way, or in this case delete my articles.

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09 Dec 2010, 8:16 pm

[quote="DudeFromVA"]OK, perhaps I can help as well. Seen this on Wikipedia (where I am an editor...NOT an admin) and also have Aspergers.

Good to see you, DudeFromVA, I see you have a different moniker here.
I am ResidentAnthropologist on Wiki which is apparently to long for a username for here. ~~~~

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09 Dec 2010, 8:17 pm

DudeFromVA
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09 Dec 2010, 8:23 pm

starstuffing wrote:

Well, it is sometimes a battle of wills, I will give you that. Some, not most, admins have a bit of a holier-than-thou complex and they think they know all. But that again is just SOME admins, the vast majority, especially the folks helping out on the ANI thread, are good people and are there to help.

A guess on why all three pages were AFD'd (Articles for Deletion) in the span of a week is an editor may have looked at your contributions (which can be done for anyone) and seen, in their opinion, that they were not-notable and nominated them all. This is just a guess though.

TheAnthropologist wrote:

Good to see you, DudeFromVA, I see you have a different moniker here. I am ResidentAnthropologist on Wiki which is apparently to long for a username for here. ~~~~

Yeah, this is Neutralhomer from the ol' en.Wiki. See you got the tidles in.

I do that often on Facebook.

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09 Dec 2010, 8:47 pm

sorry, duplicate post

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09 Dec 2010, 8:48 pm

sorry, duplicate post - please delete.

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09 Dec 2010, 8:49 pm

sorry, duplicate post

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09 Dec 2010, 8:50 pm

sorry duplicate post

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09 Dec 2010, 8:51 pm

starstuffing wrote:

" First of all, Kww and AussieLegend are not the same person. They are clearly two different people. However, looking at Whitewater111 (talk · contribs)'s contributions, the only thing they have solely done after creation is try to get your article kept at the AfD. It's reasonable to assume they're your sock, and we don't take kindly to votestacking here.

In their very first edits, they seem to automatically know how to use wikipedia markup and sign their posts.. not typical behavior of 'new' users. Secondly, looking through their contributions, you both also share some similarities. For instance, in the post above this one, you use the word 'noting' in reference to Homer accusing you of abusing multiple accounts, and here, the sock uses roughly the same language; you use variants of 'noted' quite often. Another diff.

Given the above information regarding this case, I'm going to request a CU. If they are your sock, I suggest you admit it now, unless you want to risk a block on your main account.— Dædαlus+ Contribs 01:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC) "

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