How does an aspie define the "reality of life"?
Sweetleaf
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Life is how you make it.
We perceive life according to the meaning that we place on events.
If life sucks for you, then you have attached negative meaning to events and situations. If somebody does something to you, You can perceive that any way you want and you can react any way that you want.
It is very easy to imagine you are feeling the way that you are 'because of xxxx'. But the reality is that we choose how we want to feel.
I am being a bit harsh on you here, but you are playing the role of a victim, which is completely ok, it's your choice.
Being a victim allows you not to take responsibility for your own actions and life.
Though when you take control of your life (can seem daunting to many) you will greatly increase your appreciation and joy of life.
There is much you can do, and for your sake please be willing to take charge of your life.
Well if you where made to feel like a freak since the age of 5 you might attach negative meaning towards events and situations as well. If I could percieve and react to everything that happens to me however I want then I wouldn't take things personally no matter how hard I try not to, I would not have reacted to that psycho shooting another kid at my school by getting PTSD, and I would not have constantly been a target of bullying from teachers and students.
So I am sorry but I simply cannot agree with your theory that everyone gets to choose how they feel, or how the react to things......if everyone could do that mental illness would not exist because everyone would be able to deal with things in a healthy manner. I agree that I am in the role of a victim......if I felt like a survivor that would not be the case but I feel dead inside if anything. I however disagree it's my choice simple fact of the matter is as much as I used to blame everything that went wrong on myself and still try to, its not all due to my actions or lack of taking responsibility it has more to do with having people neglect me and treat me like crap ever since I was a child. Either that or they had their own problems to deal with so the had no time to notice or care that maybe I wasn't exactly doing well and never was to begin with.
And for now I've sent in my disability application, will wait for further contact from that to find out what more they need from me.....and also I am still interested in the seasonal job at an outside concert venue........other then that I'll try to focus on maybe getting to a point a feel somewhat better about things but that's all there is. I hardly feel enjoyment even of the few things i do enjoy any more, and I am supposed to appreciate and enjoy my life? sorry I am just not at that point psychologically right now and honestly don't know I ever would be.
I do apologize for this off topic rant, but that is what happens when people post their personal opinion about me in response to a vague philosophy on life I mentioned that makes sense to me .
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Hi sweetleaf.
Your comment is not a rant, it shows the story of your life. Bear with me here, We all operate according to our unconscious patterns and these patterns are formed by the time we are five or six. These patterns reflect our environment, so if you have a negative environment then you will have negative patterns. As our patterns are a function of the unconscious, they guide and dictate our life, our feelings and behavior. We perceive everything via the filter of our patterns and so continue to act and react accordingly.
The conscious mind has the most amazing ability of choice and decision making, though we rarely use it, we nearly always simply choose what the pattern dictates.
My point is that if your life is not good and you do not enjoy life, then this is sad. Every day I help people to enjoy life, most of my clients are at the end of their tether, they are depressed and hate life. Though like you they have excellent reasons to feel that way. They have been abused and they have learnt/been taught that they are worthless pieces of s**t and so their life reflects that.
It is easy when dealing face to face with a person to transform their pattern in 3 - 4 sessions so that they achieve a happy and joyous life, their confidence. Self esteem becomes full and the rest of their life blossoms.
So I am saying you have a choice, life is how you make it and it means that you can continue on the path that your first 5 years experience has taught/brainwashed you into believing, such as- you are a freak etc, or you can define what YOU want. How do you want to be? don't base this on the past, if you had a totally new life, right now that had no learnings from your past, how would like to be?
To stay on the path that we learnt in our early childhood is the easiest thing to do (no matter how painful) for we do not have to change anything, we may hate being on the path but we follow it regardlessly. To change paths (deep down feels impossible and so we don't attempt it) feels like just too much hard work.
If you would like to be happy and not have negative beliefs about yourself, then there is a process to achieve this. As I do this for a living (and I love it) I understand the process and how easy it is. The first step though is the desire to change and then the willingness even if it feels impossible.
Sadly most people can't make that first step till they have nothing left to lose (suicidal), why wait.
PS.
All the negative beliefs that you may have about yourself such as you're freak, you are worthless, you are nothing etc, etc are an illusion, you were taught them (you can teach a young child anything no matter how ridiculous, for they simply absorb information like a sponge). They are not true, though you believe them and so constantly act as if they are true - they govern your life. They are simply information that now takes precedence over opposing information. but you can unlearn them and then the real truth shines through.
Maybe - Deep down inside you perhaps buried in rock like substance where nobody can find it, is a tiny shimmer of a golden sparkle. The sparkle once filled your whole body but little by little it felt like you traded it, to get some sort of acceptance so you could try and fit in or survive, It felt like that is all other people wanted, every time they gave you something, they wanted a piece of that sparkle. One day you realized that you couldn't give anymore away, as then there would be no more you and so you buried it and locked it up, where even you can see it.
Sweetleaf
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Your comment is not a rant, it shows the story of your life. Bear with me here, We all operate according to our unconscious patterns and these patterns are formed by the time we are five or six. These patterns reflect our environment, so if you have a negative environment then you will have negative patterns. As our patterns are a function of the unconscious, they guide and dictate our life, our feelings and behavior. We perceive everything via the filter of our patterns and so continue to act and react accordingly.
The conscious mind has the most amazing ability of choice and decision making, though we rarely use it, we nearly always simply choose what the pattern dictates.
My point is that if your life is not good and you do not enjoy life, then this is sad. Every day I help people to enjoy life, most of my clients are at the end of their tether, they are depressed and hate life. Though like you they have excellent reasons to feel that way. They have been abused and they have learnt/been taught that they are worthless pieces of sh** and so their life reflects that.
It is easy when dealing face to face with a person to transform their pattern in 3 - 4 sessions so that they achieve a happy and joyous life, their confidence. Self esteem becomes full and the rest of their life blossoms.
Well then why couldn't all the therapist's I went to have that effect? Also I don't really have an environment in which I can achieve a happy and joyous life. I mean I am feeling resentment towards my mom for some of the things shes done in my life that I feel where more harmful than good though it turns out a lot of this has to do with how she was raised....then of course I love my dad but he also had a pretty screwed up family situation and has been to jail more than once and certainly isn't perfect either. I am having to live at my moms house because I have no income and if she did not let me stay there I would be homeless, or limited to staying at friends houses. Not to mention everything just feels pointless in general. I mean its just impossible to ignore what sort of environment I am in and how unwelcome I feel in a society I'm supposedly supposed to find some place in.
So I am saying you have a choice, life is how you make it and it means that you can continue on the path that your first 5 years experience has taught/brainwashed you into believing, such as- you are a freak etc, or you can define what YOU want. How do you want to be? don't base this on the past, if you had a totally new life, right now that had no learnings from your past, how would like to be?
To me it seems irrelevant what I would do if I had a totally new life that had no learning from my past. That's impossible so its really no use thinking about it to me. I have the life I have and can try and figure out what to do with that I guess.
To stay on the path that we learnt in our early childhood is the easiest thing to do (no matter how painful) for we do not have to change anything, we may hate being on the path but we follow it regardlessly. To change paths (deep down feels impossible and so we don't attempt it) feels like just too much hard work.
Yes it does, and right now I am working on other things then trying to overcome my current mental state, which may or may not change and I am ok with that.
If you would like to be happy and not have negative beliefs about yourself, then there is a process to achieve this. As I do this for a living (and I love it) I understand the process and how easy it is. The first step though is the desire to change and then the willingness even if it feels impossible.
Sadly most people can't make that first step till they have nothing left to lose (suicidal), why wait.
I don't even know what happiness is, so no its not something I strive for....I am just trying to feel a bit less horrible over all so maybe I can get some enjoyment out of life and figure out something to do with it. Also I can think as positively as I want about myself but that wont stop me from replaying all the crap I internalized when I am tying to get to sleep or maybe any random time no matter how inconvenient it is for me. I honestly don't even know what triggers that but it sucks.
PS.
All the negative beliefs that you may have about yourself such as you're freak, you are worthless, you are nothing etc, etc are an illusion, you were taught them (you can teach a young child anything no matter how ridiculous, for they simply absorb information like a sponge). They are not true, though you believe them and so constantly act as if they are true - they govern your life. They are simply information that now takes precedence over opposing information. but you can unlearn them and then the real truth shines through.
I don't necessarily want to believe any of that but its hard not to, especially when even people here repeat those same things about how I am just not trying hard enough, should get over it, am too emotional/sensitive, all I care about is myself and my needs and wants when half the time I don't give a damn about myself in any way shape or form, I manipulate even though I don't even understand mind games ect. But I am working on not internalizing stuff like that and not believing it.
Maybe - Deep down inside you perhaps buried in rock like substance where nobody can find it, is a tiny shimmer of a golden sparkle. The sparkle once filled your whole body but little by little it felt like you traded it, to get some sort of acceptance so you could try and fit in or survive, It felt like that is all other people wanted, every time they gave you something, they wanted a piece of that sparkle. One day you realized that you couldn't give anymore away, as then there would be no more you and so you buried it and locked it up, where even you can see it.
And not to sound disturbed but I think that sparkle got smothered out a long time ago, hence the feeling dead inside.
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Hi sweetleaf,
Most therapist tend to buy into the clients problem and try to fix it, which ends up just round in circles.
You seem very intelligent and I guess you are 'happy' for want of a better word in maintaining the status quo.
To me it seems irrelevant what I would do if I had a totally new life that had no learning from my past. That's impossible so its really no use thinking about it to me. I have the life I have and can try and figure out what to do with that I guess.
It is not impossible, but that is up to you. You have accepted the life that you have as final and so change is not desired or contemplated and that is fine, as it is your life.
And not to sound disturbed but I think that sparkle got smothered out a long time ago, hence the feeling dead inside.
It may be smothered but it is still there, you've learnt to fear using it. When it is activated it flows and expands, you can never lose it, you can only avoid allowing it to flow.
There is no point trying harder and get over it, it simply dosen't work. When things are resolved or transformed then they lose their value and have no effect on you.
Sweetleaf
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Most therapist tend to buy into the clients problem and try to fix it, which ends up just round in circles.
You seem very intelligent and I guess you are 'happy' for want of a better word in maintaining the status quo.
What status quo exactly? I can hardly function even on days I don't have any real obligations of any sort. I mean I prefer not to have to sit in the corner trying not to lose it or having to avoid family/friends when I can't handle being around them due to my mental state or having anxiety attacks when out in about or on a college campus and stuff like that. I might be intelligent but that does not seem to make up for a whole lot. But I guess I am just trying to kind of make the best of that even though it sucks terribly but I certainly would not say I feel I am living up to any status quo.
To me it seems irrelevant what I would do if I had a totally new life that had no learning from my past. That's impossible so its really no use thinking about it to me. I have the life I have and can try and figure out what to do with that I guess.
It is not impossible, but that is up to you. You have accepted the life that you have as final and so change is not desired or contemplated and that is fine, as it is your life.
I think it is impossible to start a new life with learning from the past........I would have to die for that to happen, as most people only get one life to live and I am pretty sure I am not the exception to the rule.
And not to sound disturbed but I think that sparkle got smothered out a long time ago, hence the feeling dead inside.
It may be smothered but it is still there, you've learnt to fear using it. When it is activated it flows and expands, you can never lose it, you can only avoid allowing it to flow.
If you say so, I don't really agree though.
There is no point trying harder and get over it, it simply dosen't work. When things are resolved or transformed then they lose their value and have no effect on you.

We'll see about that, don't know anything will be resolved fully.
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Hi sweetleaf,
What status quo exactly? How you feel about yourself and life.
I think it is impossible to start a new life with no learning from the past........I would have to die for that to happen, as most people only get one life to live and I am pretty sure I am not the exception to the rule. You get one life, which is the collection of 50 to 70 trillion cells coexisting together as one entity. But your experience of life is a moment by moment thing, like a string of beads. Each new bead is placed next to the preceding ones so we end up with a necklace. The necklace has at its core an unseen string, the string guides the function of the necklace. We can stop simply adding beads upon the old string (pathway) and get a different string and get a completely different necklace.
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Life is an experience and so you can start a new life at any time. In the diagram you are born with option 1. as your default pathway. If your environment is supportive in your earliest years, then you will adapt. How you are today is a result of that adaptation. Option 2. is the pattern that conforms to your early environment.
Today, you may say that your present environment is similar to your early environment but as an adult you can change the pattern and so change your future and your life. but it comes down to - do you want a different future, do you want to feel better about yourself? Do you want to be free of the pain and turmoil?
Anything can be resolved, if you follow a process then you will naturally achieve the results of that process. You are unconsciously following a process that began around age five and you are constantly achieving the results of that process today. To make the process palatable you will derive unconscious benefits and this maintains the status quo and prevents change.
Follow a different process then you will naturally achieve different results.
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See the thing is even if I where to somehow change my state of mind it would not change my situation. I mean I have little or no job experience, no college degree and no plans to get one I have a bunch of college loans to pay back and have no income whatsoever. But whatever it's my problem I suppose....
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Believe me, changing you state of mind changes everything, it snowballs.
Your situation may still be the same for a while, but you won't be a victim of it. You will become more capable and more in control.
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Your situation may still be the same for a while, but you won't be a victim of it. You will become more capable and more in control.
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Well I guess i am not in a state of mind to find that at all likely.
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I am fully aware that the world is not all sunshine and rainbows and i try my best to cope with the chaos that surrounds me but sometimes i feel like being an aspie its making look at reality though rose colored glasses and keeping me from the hard truths i should be aware of and i think this gonna make me not able to survive the real world. As i am just starting my career, the "reality of life" will hit me but i want to render it in my own way.
I just hope i am cut out for the real world.
All the best to you!



I find I attempt to escape when I am able. Outside in nature by myself is reinvigorating to me and makes me feel more human. When I am around people too much it is incredibly uninteresting and wears on me. I can see myself becoming more and more reclusive, which I am not sure is a good idea, but I think I am happiest when I don't feel obligated to be part of some sort of conglomerate that erodes each other's humanity each and every day.
Very well put. It is a good idea to spend a reasonable amount of time in nature, as you recharge your batteries and keep what is real - real. If you see the error or fakeness of everyday life, then there is no need to FEEl obligated, you are choosing to join the game to get what you want out of it. You join in and play but you do not buy into it. Sadly most people are lost in it.
Lucky for you, you are not
cheers
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