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12 Apr 2013, 8:27 pm

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There's no pleasing everyone, so screw it and do what you like, I say.


Ain't that the truth.


No matter what you say or do, you will never please everyone.



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12 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

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I believe it was originally old English.
It's now in the dictionary so it is a word.
It was originally haint.
Since I am an ignorant Southerner, I ain't gonna stop usin' it.
Heard people use that that may have been uneducated, but were by no means stupid.


I've always heard haint was a ghost. My grandparents called them that.

As for it not being a word or only used by low class uneducated people, it's pretty much infiltrated everything. It's in lots of music, novels, there's even "Ain't Misbehaving"


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12 Apr 2013, 10:17 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I believe it was originally old English.
It's now in the dictionary so it is a word.
It was originally haint.
Since I am an ignorant Southerner, I ain't gonna stop usin' it.
Heard people use that that may have been uneducated, but were by no means stupid.


I've always heard haint was a ghost. My grandparents called them that.

As for it not being a word or only used by low class uneducated people, it's pretty much infiltrated everything. It's in lots of music, novels, there's even "Ain't Misbehaving"



Yeah,here too on the haints,but some of the really old folks that are dead would use it this way, "Haint nuthin'lay like a white leghorn chicken."
I've read somewhere that is a remanent of Elizabethian English but I'm sorry I don't remember where.


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12 Apr 2013, 10:49 pm

All words are completely arbitrary and spoken languages are never very logical anyway.


Here is an example of an ordinary sentence that is logically inconsistent with its desired meaning, "You use your credit-card only if you do not either have enough cash, or enough money on your debit to make a purchase."

Typically either-or sentences logically mean exclusive-or, which means that it is a true statement only if one, but not the other is true. An example is that if I said, "I will either do my physics homework, or my mechanical engineering homework today," then that would be a true statement only if I did one homework and not the other. In this sentence, "You are allowed either to have a dog or a cat in the apartment," then clearly what is meant is that you are not allowed both, but it it is not meant that you are not allowed to have no pets, which is what is technically being said if either-or has a consistent meaning.

In the first example I gave, what is being said would technically appear to be a not exclusive or gate, which means that it is true only if neither, or both conditions are true. So if words are to have consistent meanings, then that would mean that you use your credit card when you don't have enough cash or credit, OR when you DO have both enough cash and credit. Obviously that is not what was meant.

When I was younger I noticed inconsistencies like these in almost every sentence, and it f****d up my SAT scores because I couldn't tell what was being asked. Now I do not notice them as frequently. I guess it just took a couple decades for me to get used to what people mean when they say things.



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13 Apr 2013, 2:17 am

"You've not yet seen anything" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


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13 Apr 2013, 8:57 am

Funny how improper words use actual punctuation.


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13 Apr 2013, 10:05 am

I say "aint" when I specifically want to sound backwoods.
"Aint narry" (have never) is one that I especially like.


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13 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
"You've not yet seen anything" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


That's because the proper terminology is "Y'all ain't seen nuttin yet, ya hear me?" :wink:



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13 Apr 2013, 11:28 am

Living in Britain, 'ain't' is a word I hear rarely. I sometimes use it, but when I do, it's only when talking to friends.
I know it ain't a proper word, but that ain't gonna stop me from using it. :wink:



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13 Apr 2013, 12:44 pm

I've been told that "ain't" is not a word, but later on in life, I learned it is slang. Even back then, I couldn't stop saying that word because it has become such a habit, and now I've grown accustomed to it.

Such an addicting word to say, ain't it?



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13 Apr 2013, 6:20 pm

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
"You've not yet seen anything" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


That's because the proper terminology is "Y'all ain't seen nuttin yet, ya hear me?" :wink:


That's another thing: the lack of a collective second-person pronoun in Standard English!
In Australia we use "youse".


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13 Apr 2013, 8:45 pm

BooToMostStuff wrote:
Funny how improper words use actual punctuation.


Yeah. And they have proper spellings, too.



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14 Apr 2013, 10:01 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
"You've not yet seen anything" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


That's because the proper terminology is "Y'all ain't seen nuttin yet, ya hear me?" :wink:


The above sentence and "Hey ya'll watch this!" are both common last words of redneck guys.


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14 Apr 2013, 3:22 pm

I ain't no redneck, but sho' nuff ma momma n daddeh was!


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15 Apr 2013, 9:29 am

I don't use that word very often but remembered other people using it though.



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16 Apr 2013, 11:36 pm

Ain't no mountain high enough... Sorry, got a little carried away there.


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