I don't want to have a job scrubbing toilets.

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i sure hope noone here seriously thinks toilet scrubbers are beneath them. i'd sense a bit of arrogance otherwise.....

i did it for a very small while. prefer it to customer service to be quite honest, as long as i have ample opportunity to wash my hands.

you could also take a dump in a hole in the ground...that doesn't exactly have to be scrubbed either.

i say: keep the toilet scrubbers employed. even if toilets are relatively easy to make self-cleaning.

I have done that. I prefer a toilet. I dream of a world in which my toilet is scrubbed by a robot. It's 2017 already. It's time. I'm ready and willing to pay for it.



And I say that should have been the first job taken over by robots. It should have happened before ATMs and self-checkout. Humans should not have to scrub toilets.

providing inefficient jobs isn’t a beneficial thing... the money to pay for the work has to come from somewhere. so it typically comes from a weighed balance of hedging a business’ overall workforce, and increasing the cost of products or services, while decreasing quality and watching the public to see how they respond to the changes as to how much the business can get away with without loss. it’s why grocery stores around here have at least ten checkout isles, but only maybe three are ever open, and they often have fifteen minute lines of annoyed customers.

because of the opportunist run unions(employees have to pay into them for many years before getting anything back, so the employees not planning their life ambitions around being a bag person or cashier don’t appreciate having to pay into them), there are bag persons attending to every cashier even though it’s an absolutely unnecessary role(have been to places where they have no bag persons and you bag them yourself... the prices were notably lower, making it worth the effortless task of doing so and choosing to shop there.). so if you have six employees, that’s six self checkout isles that could be managed with four machines per employee increasing efficiency and customer satisfaction, but people fear such robots taking their jobs to the point that there are less jobs as a result(there are almost no self checkout isles around these parts, and where there are, there’s only one to humor morale) while forgetting that such simple machines need people around to keep them running and assist with questions or malfunctions.

doesn’t help that people who obviously never stayed awake through economics class seem excited that the minimum wage around here will be on par with introductory skilled labor soon... and seem to completely forget about that thing called inflation. money doesn’t just materialize out of nowhere. if everyone making minimum wage is making more for no reason, everyone can expect to pay proportionately more for cost of living as a result. when cost of living is higher than valued, it leads to an exodus of businesses/jobs, and rise in crime.

what will happen to the uneducable when all the low-skill jobs are automated/exported? it is either bread and circuses, or some kind of culling. i can see where america is headed from here, and it ain't pleasant.

At one point in my life I was working as a emergency medical technician on an ambulance doing what some people might consider important work. After having a seizure(off duty) I wasn't comfortable driving an ambulance anymore and left that job. My next job after a period of unemployment(I'm good at work s**t at finding work) was washing dishes. Sometimes you just gotta do what you've got to do. That dishwashing job brought me to Yosemite national park where I'm still living four years later and I could write a book on the positive effect this place has had on me. I washed dishes for a while and worked hard then became a cook then moved on to being food runner at the bar here then stepped way out of my comfort zone and became a server/back up bartender which I got pretty good at but it was extremely taxing and eventually became to much and I had a mental breakdown and stepped back down to food runner that eventually became to much and I had another breakdown and had to step back down to dishwasher but a good work ethic has gotten me out of the dish pit pretty quick and now i work in the storeroom where I get to arrange and organize things which isn't to bad.
So after all that I guess what I'm saying is work hard and it can get better and while I do feel under employed it's damn better than the alternative I've gone hungry more than once and I hope I never do again.

^^^hiya SS welcome to WP

if someone is incapable of being trained to do new simple tasks, that sounds reason for addressing a disability claim. however, as already mentioned, most things aren’t completely automated, they require simple assistance. self checkouts, for example, can’t go unmanaged by a person because they require surveillance, fixing errors, helping people, and checking identification for sale of age restricted goods.

the key is balancing efficiency with cost, not elimination. if a business is more efficient, it can turn around more customers/clients, and in turn branch outward creating more opportunities for employment. it’s a very simple concept that office places have already been forced through for quite awhile now... before email, businesses required posting out mail or faxing, and would have to wait for responses(things were slower, and ran on a smaller scale). incorporating emails into the system didn’t leave people with too little work per day followed by layoffs for spending the rest of the day twirling their thumbs, it increased output, and businesses were able to thrive and afford to provide more job positions. similarly, going from paper in filing cabinets to computerized systems for documenting orders and clients took small local business and gave them the ability to manage business on a much larger scale. there’s nothing particularly scary about automated machines aiding workforce if people just recognize them similarly as tools for increasing efficiency.

the problem is that there are too many people here not to change the system onto a path of growth. many seem to act as if all businesses are owned by misers with abundant wealth not being shared, when to be blunt, it’s simply not the case for all but the most successful corporations. providing unnecessary jobs, in effect, reduces job opportunities in limiting a business’ productivity... if your boss is not prosperous, no one is prosperous, and if your boss goes bankrupt, everyone’s without a job.

My 1st job was a dishwasher SlackinSteven. I did that for 10 months before leaving to work at WalMart. Part of the reason I took the dishwashing job was because an employment organization lined it up for me & I needed work experience. I liked some things about the job but I hated the stress when things got busy & I had skin allergies that the chemicals aggravated. I would of had problems being a server or a cook cuz of my disabilities. I'd apply for that type of job again if I was desperate to have a job but I'm on Social Security Disability now.

my first job was picking cucumbers out in the Puyallup valley- hot, dirty, sweaty, insect-ridden, backbreaking work for very little money. now I could not do that kinda physical work even if I wanted to.

Thanks you both.
I happily performed bathroom detail at the various cleaning jobs I held. I was particularly proud of my work at the city hall of Haarlem (the Netherlands) where I worked for only six months, but I got very positive feedback from the civil servants working there. At first, I was a bit daunted by the task of cleaning toilets, but as time went on I got better and better at it. Just like BirdInFlight, I liked being able to work alone, and I do not exaggerate when I say I took quite some pride in my job, as I saw the results of it every day. I'd gladly return to cleaning, but it's difficult to find a cleaning job that gets me enough hours in a week to build up a decent monthly salary. Cleaning jobs that would employ me for 8 hours on a day are rare, so if I'm lucky, I'll get five hours a day split over a morning and an evening, and then I'd have to find something for the weekend to reach my desired number of hours. As it is right now, I'm happy with my warehouse job-- even if some people I encounter outside of work DEFINITELY look down on that job as well.

Funnily enough, the thread title reminds me of this song's title, though it's got nothing to do with cleaning (toilets or otherwise):


(by the way, for the longest time that this was a favourite song of mine, I was an adult living home with my momma, and I still don't have a car and I'm walking. But I always show love to my shawty! )

As a former boss always told me:

Life's a b!tch and then you die, so eat sh!t and die.

I'm still taking sh!t from my brothers for accepting SSDI, as they consider it to be welfare.