What do you miss about the 1990's
We were the last generation to sit next to a landline waiting for a phone call. We had to wait for the radio to play the latest music,
Watched TV with lots of funny advertisments, Get the news at 6.30pm rather than play video games or stare at brainless social media/internet all night.
Read books rather than listen to podcasts for information.
Old fashioned gatherings happened where people talked normally without pretending every 30 seconds to swipe on their phones looking for non-existent stimulation. Where people had real relationships. not asynchronous posts on forums or facetime with family.
This is covers much of what I was going to say. The 90's were years 6 to 16 of my life, so pretty formative, I'd say. I remember in junior high tying up my family's land line phone for hours talking with my friends.
My friends and I would go out in the evenings and roam the neighborhood on our own for hours, knowing that we had to be back at a certain time for dinner and bedtime. I had a pager in case my parent's needed to contact me.
However, I have to say that smart phones are extremely powerful tools for learning, and to me this outweighs all of their downsides.
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I could identify a few negative things about the 90s, at least from an American perspective.
1.) For many Americans the 90s were a time of incredible shame and despair because they believed the Clintons were the absolute embodiment of Evil, dragging America down to the pit of Hell. It was especially bad for them when Bill Clinton was unexpectedly re-elected. The election of George W Bush in 2000, accomplished by the Supreme Court after the regular election system failed, was like the dawning of a new day for them.
2.) Some Americans had dedicated their lives to fighting the Cold War and believed their lives had lost any real purpose. Many of these did in fact lose their jobs.
3.) An alliance led by the US invaded Kuwait for the sole purpose of securing the West's supply of climate-altering petroleum. It's naïve to imagine they cared whatsoever for the rights of ordinary people living in Kuwait (which hadn't existed anyway). As a result, US military personnel were allowed to set up bases in Saudi Arabia which was the single biggest motivating factor for the 9/11 attack a decade later, and everything that followed.
4.) Although the US had always been divided politically, the division became toxic in the 90s, beginning with the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents. Then there was the Oklahoma City bombing which was largely covered by the media as an admittedly horrific crime but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps out of fear of antagonizing those unable to condemn the acts of the perpetrators insofar as Ruby Ridge and Waco were the "real atrocities".
5.) For those of us disinclined to religion, the 90s were a REALLY religious time. This became inescapable after the Columbine shootings when the media covered a seemly endless series of Christian observances connected to the incident. Obviously if you're religious you won't see this as a problem, but people today, especially young people, aren't nearly so religious on average as they were then. And also, the Columbine shootings.
BTW dealing with dial-up modems and 16-bit Windows was aggravating. The MacIntosh was better in some ways but overpriced and nothing near what it was cracked up to be by the Apple Fanbois in the popular media. I don't see how anybody can be nostalgic about that stuff.
I'm not saying there weren't a lot of cool things about the 90s but a little perspective can't hurt.
BTW kids still do play outdoors where I live. I often see kids outside in my neighborhood. Yesterday I was in a townhouse community in Columbia MD (not where I live) and saw a multi-ethnic group of about 5 boys playing in a grassy area between the buildings. What amazed me was that they were all wearing masks, as I had been led to believe that you couldn't get children to wear masks.
I think the recent virtual schooling may have something to do with it. After being confined to the house all day, kids were eager to get out. I don't think the whole thing with "screens" becomes a real problem until Middle School though.
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I'm not a huge fan of 16-bit Windows, though...I mostly missed out on 3.x when it was current (I think we used it in high school typing class 1999?), but I did install it on a few of my older machines. Mostly as a novelty, but there are a few early games that benefit from the lack of Start menu. It's kind of nice to throw back some Windows Entertainment Pack, or Dare 2 Dream, or Castle of the Winds.
95 versus 98, I'm kind of torn. Some of the Explorer stuff was cleaner and ran a lot smoother before they added all the IE shell integration stuff (that THROBBER, yuck), but some of the new features in 98(SE) were nice too.
There are hacks to bring 98 back in line (especially the Lite hack), but I seem to recall there being pros and cons.
MS themselves realized the shell integration was a bad idea when viruses started using it as a backdoor.
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1.) For many Americans the 90s were a time of incredible shame and despair because they believed the Clintons were the absolute embodiment of Evil, dragging America down to the pit of Hell. It was especially bad for them when Bill Clinton was unexpectedly re-elected. The election of George W Bush in 2000, accomplished by the Supreme Court after the regular election system failed, was like the dawning of a new day for them.
2.) Some Americans had dedicated their lives to fighting the Cold War and believed their lives had lost any real purpose. Many of these did in fact lose their jobs.
3.) An alliance led by the US invaded Kuwait for the sole purpose of securing the West's supply of climate-altering petroleum. It's naïve to imagine they cared whatsoever for the rights of ordinary people living in Kuwait (which hadn't existed anyway). As a result, US military personnel were allowed to set up bases in Saudi Arabia which was the single biggest motivating factor for the 9/11 attack a decade later, and everything that followed.
4.) Although the US had always been divided politically, the division became toxic in the 90s, beginning with the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents. Then there was the Oklahoma City bombing which was largely covered by the media as an admittedly horrific crime but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps out of fear of antagonizing those unable to condemn the acts of the perpetrators insofar as Ruby Ridge and Waco were the "real atrocities".
5.) For those of us disinclined to religion, the 90s were a REALLY religious time. This became inescapable after the Columbine shootings when the media covered a seemly endless series of Christian observances connected to the incident. Obviously if you're religious you won't see this as a problem, but people today, especially young people, aren't nearly so religious on average as they were then. And also, the Columbine shootings.
BTW dealing with dial-up modems and 16-bit Windows was aggravating. The MacIntosh was better in some ways but overpriced and nothing near what it was cracked up to be by the Apple Fanbois in the popular media. I don't see how anybody can be nostalgic about that stuff.
I'm not saying there weren't a lot of cool things about the 90s but a little perspective can't hurt.
Well another thing I can think of that was terrible about the 1990's was the homophobia in American culture. That was the days of the "Don't ask don't tell" laws where a homosexual or transgender person could potentially lose their jobs in the military or police force if they openly admitted to being gay, we were just getting through the AIDS scare that was brought about from the 80's where people still blamed the gay population for spreading this deadly STD and it became something of a joke to mock those who died from it, and unlike the youth of today who are much more jaded about homosexuality back then every kid I knew would bully you if they even thought you were gay. Saying things like "Man that's so gay!" Was what the 'cool' kids said, but nowadays I think most kids are actually much more supportive of their LGBTQ peers.
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I know, right?
Even though I was an awful game player, I enjoyed playing this game.
As many others have said already, things were simpler back then.
Example: Cell phones were the size of bricks!
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• Blockbuster (video rental store).
• Booze on an airliner.
• Chess King (men's clothing store).
• Fedco (warehouse club store).
• Heathkit (electronics store).
• KB Toys.
• Napster (video download service).
• NASA's Space Shuttle.
• Radio Shack (electronics store).
• Sears (retail department store).
• Waldenbooks (book store).
• Wherehouse (music store).
• Wicks 'N' Sticks (candles and home decor).
I know, right?
Even though I was an awful game player, I enjoyed playing this game.
As many others have said already, things were simpler back then.
Example: Cell phones were the size of bricks!
Another fun computer game I remember from my childhood was Math Munchers.
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Yep.....Amazon really screwed with the bookstores! There's still a few Barnes and Nobles around, though.
I was already an adult in the 90s. I guess if I was a kid, I might feel "nostalgic."
My father was in his 30's in the 60s. He doesn't understand why I feel nostalgic about the 60s.
He just had an "adult" view of the 60s, like I have an "adult" view of the 90s.
I didn't really partake in most of the innovations of the 90s. I never owned a pager, for example. I did get Internet around 1996. Even dial-up Internet was amazing to me back then.
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I know, right?
Even though I was an awful game player, I enjoyed playing this game.
As many others have said already, things were simpler back then.
Example: Cell phones were the size of bricks!
Another fun computer game I remember from my childhood was Math Munchers.
I don't recall any game by that title. What particular time was it popular during the 1990s?
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