Know What Makes Me Mad?
Whenever there's a tragedy, people publicly weep and moan about how sorry they are for everyone involved. When I watch their public displays of sadness over human sufferings, I can't help but think that most of them are the same people who wouldn't befriend one of us if their own lives depended on it. How are we supposed to believe that they have so much empathy for others when they laugh, roll their eyes, or completely ignore people in everyday life who are different??? There's more suffering going on in this world than that which is associated with natural disasters, terrorists, etc.
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Sometimes large tragedies do move me to heartfelt sadness. Usually my sadness is merely reasoned, though, not actually felt. What I feel is embarrassingly close to excitement. But I've heard that's normal.
And really, I don't think that a reaction of the will is any less genuine than an emotional reaction. We shouldn't be hard on anybody who wishes they felt sad about something terrible. It doesn't make them fake. Neither does a failure to act on one's sympathies make a person fake. Just imperfect.
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Havn't you ever had an uncle or a grandparent die, and you've cried at their funeral and said something like I wish i had asked him this or I should have visited her more often etc. etc.? I think it's the same kind of thing, on a larger less personal scale. We don't think about others until something bad happens, because we take for granted that they're there.
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Don't get me wrong; I feel sorry for people involved in these tragedies too. I just don't believe in the current trend of "bragging" about our grief. Like Aradford said, "caring makes you look good." These people tell themselves that they must be good, because they felt sorry when this or that happened. In turn, they're hoping that others will notice it too. For extra measure, they'll weep and moan a little more the next time something bad happens to a large group of people. At the same time, they've just snubbed someone who doesn't fit in with their current group of peers. What must the thought process be, if there is one at all? "No. No. I'm a good person. Remember when I cried the whole time I watched the new 9/11 movie? A bad person wouldn't have done that."
I think when someone who is NT shows sadness over human suffering such as death or abuse, it is something they can understand. They may have known or had someone close to them that has died, so they can relate to that. They know that crying or feeling emotional is a natural reaction to someone suffering in this regard.
When it comes to an NT understanding someone with AS, I believe they don't know what to think. They see someone with AS and that person looks normal to them. There isn't any outward abnormalties, so they expect that person with AS to be "normal" as defined by society. Not many people know someone or have a loved one who has had to live with and deal with AS, so there is no experience for them there. Having no experience with someone with AS, and meeting someone with AS who looks perfectly normal on the outside, it surprises them when there are huge communication issues or ticks or obsessive interests in certain things. The behavior to them is odd. They don't know what to think or what to say because they don't understand. They aren't educated to understand.
My son has AS, and a boy down the street has AS, too. While my son, who's AS is not as noticeable to some, is allowed in other children's homes to play, the other boy, who's AS is very noticeable, is not. I feel really sad for the other boy, and we do our best to make up for how the other's treat him. He knows this, and I think he really tries his hardest to make their friendship work. I think both boys do.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
I about puked when these kids who were really nasty to me at school were on TV (this anti-drunk-driving speech in the gym at my school was announced on the news and this person who lost loved ones made a speech, and the news cameras filmed the reactions of some of the kids... including the kids who picked on me, who appeared to be crying!) They then asked me, "Did you see me on TV?" Braggarts. I do think it was genuine though, at least to some extent. After all, drunk driving is the kind of thing they'd do.
In May of this year we lost our 21 yr old grandson, Aaron, in an automobile accident. He was alone and fell asleep at the wheel and ran off the road into the Pine woods. He died instantly. He did not have Asperger's but I can't see that as having anything to do with his death and the grief and mourning that followed. Over a thousand people showed up at the funeral service at the church, lines of people waiting their turn to see him for the last time and try in some way to comfort his family, especially his mother, my eldest daughter. There is no way these people were being phony. They truly felt the need to pay their last respects to a wonderful young man and to do or say what ever they could to ease the burden of his shocked and grief stricken family. I watched as each of them stopped to embrace my daughter, many of them sobbing in disbelief. (This is very difficult for me to write) She didn't know many of them, but they knew of Aaron, maybe they had only met him once or twice, but they knew that they had to be present to make a statement that his life mattered and that he was loved and would be missed. Even though it was hard for my daughter, physically and mentally exhausting, to stand at the front of the church next to her son's body, she was able to do it because she knew these people were sincere, and that she needed to comfort them as well. People she had never heard of sent money to help with the funeral expenses, sometimes just a dollar or two from a child or an old or poor person who read his obituary in the paper and wanted to help in some way. I have never witnessed such an out pouring of love and compassion for an "ordinary" young man and his family.
The outpouring of grief over the death of Princess Diana was outrageous.
Especially the little old ladies who were saying things like "Well, she always looked so pretty". Yes, of course she did, that's because she was busy spending all of the money that could have funded your pension increase....
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The Sociable Hermit says:
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people are so quick to pour out sympathy and s**t
especially to the rich
its insane-I don't go to funerals and don't beleive people should like, mourn like they do
in some cultures death is celebrated, you know
I don't like how were expected to cry and such for people we didn't know and did nothing for us
(rich people I'm talking about)
I mean disasters are tragic, but I won't cry over things like 911 and stuff
I did feel sorry for the people in the Twin Towers and on the planes, because they weren't directly responsible for the Taliban's hatred of US culture, they just got caught up in it. I am sure a lot of nice, kind-hearted and honest people were killed that day, and I am saddened by the horrific experiences they muist have gone through and also for their families who have been left longing for loved ones who won't come back. That is sad. The fact that I can't do a single thing about it doesn't make it any less sad.
However, corruption and aggression breeds more corruption and more aggression. Much of this stems from secret US foreign policy over the last 60 years, and to a certain extent British, Dutch, French and Portugese empire-building before that. Once you introduce cruelty and exploitation into people's lives, it cannot easily be forgotten. That is the key lesson that needs to be learned here - misery produces nothing but more misery.
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The Sociable Hermit says:
Rock'n'Roll...
Yes; celebrate your life and the lives of others! Let's not get offended, but celebrate the fact ath we're together! Let's not get angry, but celebrate the fact that we're planning on building a commune. Let's not get disgusted, but celebrate the fact that we'll have our own personal space!
Oh, how terrible for you! I'm so sorry! I hope you didn't think that I meant people shouldn't be pouring sympathy out to others in situations such as yours or any type of tragedy. I'm sure that was a great comfort for you and your family.
Maybe I didn't express myself properly. It's just the hypocrisy of people who treat others badly in every day life, yet turn around and around cry about something they see on the news that bothers me.
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