Do they have a 4th of July in England?

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04 Jul 2024, 1:23 pm

Yes, every place has a 4th of July.

They just don't celebrate it everywhere.



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04 Jul 2024, 1:23 pm

Oh, I think they'll be celebrating today. :P


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04 Jul 2024, 1:35 pm

We have 4th July every year as otherwize our calendars would skip from 3rd July and go to the 5th. What a strange question! :D

What do you celebrate on the 4th that you don't celebrate on other days?

In Wales we definately have the 4th on our calendars and we use the same calendars as they do in England, so England has 4th July as well, and so does Scotland but not sure about Northern Ireland. I can ask, but I imagine that they do as I know Eire does (Southern Ireland).



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04 Jul 2024, 1:44 pm

In the United States we have Independence Day on July 4. Because our Independence Day is on that day, it is usually referred to as the Fourth of July.



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04 Jul 2024, 1:48 pm

Is it on 4th July every year?



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04 Jul 2024, 2:47 pm

Yes. Its on the forth of July every friggin year. Just like the French have Bastile Day on July 14th, and Mexico has Cinco De Mayo, and you have Rememberence Day on Novemember eleventh every year.

Its not like Easter, or Hanukka, which jump around on the calander and come on different dates.



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04 Aug 2024, 3:44 pm

America's Independence Day is about independence from, er, Britain. So I suppose we could use the 4th of July to celebrate that America isn't our responsibility any more....


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04 Aug 2024, 4:00 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... ay_(Poland)

We have our Independence Day on 11 November in Poland, to commemorate the anniversary of this lucky day when we finally started to exist again as a country after the partitions of Poland. As our history teacher in elementary school, told us to write - "Poland disappeared from the maps of the world for 123 years but remained in the hearts of Poles".

We, Poles, finish our high school education with the so called, matura exam and when I was drawing the topics of the history matura exam, I drew the... partitions of Poland one 8O :evil: Yes, unfortunately. I was not prepared for answering the question about the partitions because I assumed that I wasn't going to get this very topic - this BORING (to me at least) topic :x In the result, I had to answer the question and I got a lower mark than I would have gotten, answering a different question :evil:



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04 Aug 2024, 8:51 pm

^ Your "independence day" is the same day as the UK's "Remembrance Day", and the US's "Veterans' Day" because that was the last day of the First World War.



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04 Aug 2024, 10:01 pm

England has a 4th of July celebration that spans from the 3rd to the 5th.


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05 Aug 2024, 12:09 am

We don't yet 'celebrate' 4th July, but give it time, lol. It seems that we've come to celebrate or adopt most other American things over the past few decades, eg:

High School 'Proms'

Halloween

American TV Shows (not sure how bad this is these days, as I no longer watch UK TV, but it was dreadful when I was growing up in the 1970s, especially American cop shows).

American Popular Music (it particularly annoys me when our home-grown artistes sing in an American accent, very common since at least the 1960s).

Aping of American institutions in our political sphere, eg creation of a 'Supreme Court' by the Tony Blair administration, creation of the Office for Budget Responsibility by the Cameron administration (a wholesale rip of the US Congressional Budget Office)

All-Seater stadiums in football, dumbed-down cricket formats along baseball lines, names on shirts, etc.

Americanisms in our everyday conversation, also American spellings. I'm even guilty of the former myself, often without even realising (realizing) it..... :lol:


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05 Aug 2024, 11:16 am

In Canada July 1st is Canada Day where we celebrate the country's birthday. But I didn't this year. It was raining and I was depressed, and it's totally racist, anyway. I don't want to get screamed at for wearing a red shirt with a maple leaf on it.



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05 Aug 2024, 11:37 am

So - does England have a Brexit Independence Day now?

I bought a new phone though. I didn't have much money so I had to buy an irregular phone - it had no number 5 on it. I saw a close friend of mine the other day... He said, "Steven, why haven't you called me?" I said, "I can't call everyone I want. My new phone has no five on it." He said, "How long have you had it?" I said, "I don't know... My calendar has no sevens on it."

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05 Aug 2024, 12:06 pm

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No, we don't have an independence day. Britain was usually the reason why people had to fight for independence in the first place.

We have the various days of Saints. St.George's day for England, St.Andrew's day for Scotland, St. Patrick's day for Ireland and St.David's day for Wales.


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05 Aug 2024, 12:17 pm

Brexit was the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union at 23:00 GMT on 31 January 2020 (00:00 1 February 2020 CET). As of 2020, the UK is the only member state to have left the EU. Britain entered the predecessor to the EU, the European Communities (EC), on 1 January 1973

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Brexit


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05 Aug 2024, 12:25 pm

^The hardcore Brexiters wanted to do this but in reality, everyone with a brain knows leaving the EU was a big mistake, and even if they don't the whole thing left such a sour taste in everyone's mouth that no one really wanted to celebrate it.

The framing of it as 'independence' from the EU was ludicrous anyway. We joined, we drafted EU laws, we voted in the EU parliament. We had opt-outs on more or less any law we didn't like. We were there by choice as an equal (actually more than equal, we we had favorable terms) participant.


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