15 May 2011, 9:59 am
No, I meant you as well as MCalavera and The_Face_Of_Boo. They both speak it.
I sure don't speak it. I commented earlier in this thread that I only know three words!
Where are you from, then?
I think bilingual people are great! 
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! 
15 May 2011, 10:01 am
15 May 2011, 10:03 am
all_white wrote:
I think bilingual people are great! Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course!
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! Me too. I especially respect those with English as a second, third, fourth, etc. language. Though it's my mother tongue, I still view it as an incredibly difficult language. So many sounds, and the grammar aspect can be a total pain if you're not used to it.
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15 May 2011, 10:09 am
jmnixon95 wrote:
all_white wrote:
I think bilingual people are great! Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course!
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! Me too. I especially respect those with English as a second, third, fourth, etc. language. Though it's my mother tongue, I still view it as an incredibly difficult language. So many sounds, and the grammar aspect can be a total b***h if you're not used to it.
I find english a difficult language as well.
My speech as a child was so horrible, even now my comprehending is bad
15 May 2011, 10:11 am
EgyptianCat wrote:
jmnixon95 wrote:
all_white wrote:
I think bilingual people are great! Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course!
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! Me too. I especially respect those with English as a second, third, fourth, etc. language. Though it's my mother tongue, I still view it as an incredibly difficult language. So many sounds, and the grammar aspect can be a total pain if you're not used to it.
I find english a difficult language as well.
My speech as a child was so horrible, even now my comprehending is bad
I had to receive speech therapy for several consonant sounds (r/w, s/th, and I think...)
In many languages, you don't find so much speech therapy given. Sure, it may be a product of the views of the country itself, but many languages (like Japanese) are, frankly, pronounced more easily.
15 May 2011, 10:12 am
all_white wrote:
No, I meant you as well as MCalavera and The_Face_Of_Boo. They both speak it.
I sure don't speak it. I commented earlier in this thread that I only know three words!
Where are you from, then?
I think bilingual people are great! Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course!
I sure don't speak it. I commented earlier in this thread that I only know three words!
Where are you from, then?
I think bilingual people are great!
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! Me? Hehe, you thought I was from England, but I never said anything~♥ ^^
I didn't want to disappoint you ):
I am from Australia, Melbourne.
I moved to Western Australia.
And yes, we have the same brand of razors that England does, so your advice most certainly didn't go to waste~♥ (:
All of it was helpful~♥
15 May 2011, 10:14 am
jmnixon95 wrote:
EgyptianCat wrote:
jmnixon95 wrote:
all_white wrote:
I think bilingual people are great! Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course!
Edit: no offence meant to non-bilingual people, of course! Me too. I especially respect those with English as a second, third, fourth, etc. language. Though it's my mother tongue, I still view it as an incredibly difficult language. So many sounds, and the grammar aspect can be a total pain if you're not used to it.
I find english a difficult language as well.
My speech as a child was so horrible, even now my comprehending is bad
I had to receive speech therapy for several consonant sounds (r/w, s/th, and I think...)
In many languages, you don't find so much speech therapy given. Sure, it may be a product of the views of the country itself, but many languages (like Japanese) are, frankly, pronounced more easily.
I learned how to speak properly when I was 8, because my Mum made the school take me aside from class and teach me words, they even told me how to roll my tongue to say, "Llll" and say "Oooo" & "Mmmm"
It worked~♥! ^^
But even though I can speak fine now, I lack comprehending skills
15 May 2011, 10:18 am
EgyptianCat wrote:
I learned how to speak properly when I was 8, because my Mum made the school take me aside from class and teach me words, they even told me how to roll my tongue to say, "Llll" and say "Oooo" & "Mmmm"
It worked~♥! ^^
But even though I can speak fine now, I lack comprehending skills
It worked~♥! ^^
But even though I can speak fine now, I lack comprehending skills
Spoken comprehension or reading? Or both?
15 May 2011, 10:23 am
EgyptianCat, I (wrongly) assumed you were from the US. Another person from Melbourne! You and MCalavera could have a meet-up! I'm so jealous. There are no Aspies here.
Is English your second language, then? When you said you had problems with comprehension I (again, wrongly) assumed perhaps you had dyslexia or spelling difficulties.
jmnixon95: Wow, that's an impressive list of languages you're learning! Yes, English sure is hard when you think about it objectively. Those of us who have it as our mother tongue tend to take it for granted and not really think about what we're saying, but the pronunciation often makes no sense at all. A lot of words don't really follow any set rules for pronunciation, which makes it incredibly hard.
15 May 2011, 10:26 am
all_white wrote:
jmnixon95: Wow, that's an impressive list of languages you're learning! Yes, English sure is hard when you think about it objectively. Those of us who have it as our mother tongue tend to take it for granted and not really think about what we're saying, but the pronunciation often makes no sense at all. A lot of words don't really follow any set rules for pronunciation, which makes it incredibly hard.
Yes, the pronunciation corresponding with the spelling is usually when I sympathize with those learning the language.
In the book The Language Instinct, the author, Steven Pinker, brings up a great point related to this. I unfortunately can't bring myself to recall the name of the man who originally said this, but the word "fish" can just as logically be spelled as "ghoti." ("Gh" as in "laugh"; "o" as in "women"; "ti" as in "nation.")
15 May 2011, 10:31 am
all_white wrote:
EgyptianCat, I (wrongly) assumed you were from the US. Another person from Melbourne! You and MCalavera could have a meet-up! I'm so jealous. There are no Aspies here.
Is English your second language, then? When you said you had problems with comprehension I (again, wrongly) assumed perhaps you had dyslexia or spelling difficulties.
jmnixon95: Wow, that's an impressive list of languages you're learning! Yes, English sure is hard when you think about it objectively. Those of us who have it as our mother tongue tend to take it for granted and not really think about what we're saying, but the pronunciation often makes no sense at all. A lot of words don't really follow any set rules for pronunciation, which makes it incredibly hard.
Another person from Melbourne! You and MCalavera could have a meet-up! I'm so jealous. There are no Aspies here. Is English your second language, then? When you said you had problems with comprehension I (again, wrongly) assumed perhaps you had dyslexia or spelling difficulties.
jmnixon95: Wow, that's an impressive list of languages you're learning! Yes, English sure is hard when you think about it objectively. Those of us who have it as our mother tongue tend to take it for granted and not really think about what we're saying, but the pronunciation often makes no sense at all. A lot of words don't really follow any set rules for pronunciation, which makes it incredibly hard.
I moved to Western Australia though, so, we can't meet up
.
English is my main language, I can type perfectly well and was the best speller in my class. I just can't comprehend a lot of the words from year 5+
Like I learned the word, "Comprehend" 2 years ago, there is several of words I still don't understand.
No spelling difficulties and no dyslexia~♥ (:
I can write perfectly, I can speak fine, I can spell a lot of words perfectly~♥
I can't spell necercerially though, I purposely didn't correct that spelling just to show you that.
It's alright if you assumed, just ask me and I will tell you~♥ ^^
Edit: Also, I'd love to visit England one day (:
I always wanted to visit England~♥
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15 May 2011, 10:31 am
jmnixon95 wrote:
the word "fish" can just as logically be spelled as "ghoti." ("Gh" as in "laugh"; "o" as in "women"; "ti" as in "nation.")
That's completely true!
And don't even get me started on words that change their meaning according to how they're pronounced.
Here's just one example:
"I read a book."
Now, if I pronounce that as "I reed a book" then it's in the present simple tense. If I pronounce it as "I red a book" it's in the preterite tense. Conclusion: you can't tell which way to pronounce it unless you know which tense it ought to be in.
Poor, poor TEFL students. They really don't stand a chance.
15 May 2011, 10:35 am
15 May 2011, 10:35 am
EgyptianCat wrote:
English is my main language, I can type perfectly well and was the best speller in my class. I just can't comprehend a lot of the words from year 5+
That's probably a sign that the Aspie half of your brain has a mental age of five, which must be why we get on so well. I made up my own test to determine my Aspie mental age and concluded that half of me stopped growing up / developing at the age of eight. So I am older than you, but only by three years.
15 May 2011, 10:36 am
all_white wrote:
They really don't stand a chance.
Hmm. I've actually known many people who have successfully become very fluent in English. I have a teacher who has English as a third language and she didn't start learning until late secondary school, then my Swiss neighbor also learned English as a third language and she didn't start until she was in the middle of university. Both are very proficient in the language.
15 May 2011, 10:37 am
