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14 Jul 2023, 11:22 am

Someone made a big deal out of me leaving once, without my permission. They made a thread which morphed into two or possibly even three threads, with people trying to assign motive to my departure. I felt like a circus side show because I became the subject of a lot of gossip.

There were a lot of kind comments in the first thread so I felt awkward to complain about it, but even the nice posts made me uncomfortable. The whole thing gave an impression I was asking for attention or trying to be dramatic. I'd much rather slink away quietly, which is what I'd intended to do in the first place.

I don't get why the other person felt it was OK to do this.


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14 Jul 2023, 11:27 am

I'm not the kind to make a big show of leaving, having said that I did rage-quit which was a bit flamboyant :jester:


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14 Jul 2023, 11:28 am

Yeah you're just a drama queen


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14 Jul 2023, 11:29 am

But he has the cutest tiara! ^


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14 Jul 2023, 11:39 am

Oh I thought that was his halo


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14 Jul 2023, 11:45 am

I make other drama queens look like mere peasants.


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14 Jul 2023, 11:59 am

Recidivist wrote:
I make other drama queens look like mere peasants.


I want to be a Drama Peasant now :lol:



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14 Jul 2023, 2:57 pm

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Sometimes people make announcements for the attention rather than because they are legitimately planning on leaving, I think.


Yes, for sure they do. They want people to beg them to stay, or something.


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14 Jul 2023, 2:59 pm

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Someone made a big deal out of me leaving once, without my permission. They made a thread which morphed into two or possibly even three threads, with people trying to assign motive to my departure. I felt like a circus side show because I became the subject of a lot of gossip.

There were a lot of kind comments in the first thread so I felt awkward to complain about it, but even the nice posts made me uncomfortable. The whole thing gave an impression I was asking for attention or trying to be dramatic. I'd much rather slink away quietly, which is what I'd intended to do in the first place.

I don't get why the other person felt it was OK to do this.


I've given up trying to understand why people do things, I tend to just say 'people are weird' to myself and move on :? I think people are getting weirder.


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14 Jul 2023, 4:34 pm

Why do some precious lil "people" talk so much and so loudly, like every thought and emotion that goes through their heads is the latest greatest scientific invention? It is like there is no space between their brain and their mouths
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14 Jul 2023, 4:48 pm

i don't get why people think tapered haircuts are attractive.



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14 Jul 2023, 5:16 pm

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I think if I did it it would be because I was feeling that I needed to leave for my own good but didn't really want to, if you know what I mean.

If I made an announcement it would be harder for me to come back in a weak moment. I'd feel ridiculous and that might be enough to stop me restarting an old habit.

But generally yeah, I'm a slip out of the side door person.


I think I've probably made announcements like that in the past but it must have been when I was very new online and not very confident or something, I dunno.
I made an announcement like that 1ce. I was a member there for a few years since it changed from another forum that closed. Most of the members were pretty nice at 1st but the forum started becoming kinda clickish as newbs started getting approved by a comittee. A lot members gradually became frustrated with me & some even became hostle towards me & associated me with trolling which was NOT my intent. I was very depressed & lonely & kept posting about it. I eventually realized most of the members didn't want me around & it was better for me to leave. I made an announcement about leaving to let the members know who I liked & respected. I was not really blaming the site either or at least that was not my intent. I never went back but me posting about leaving was not the reason why. I do seem to like burning my bridges when my romantic relationships end by going into a meltdown but I think that's due to me being unstable at the time & a form of self-protection. Easier for me to move on knowing I had no chance in hell of getting back together with them but that was not the case when I left that forum. I felt I was letting the members I cared about know & wishing them well. I can understand long-term members wanting to post about leaving to let others know but not a newer member who's making a post to blame the forum or to state that they will probably be getting banned soon & blaming the mods & other members for reporting them :wall:


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15 Jul 2023, 2:02 am

KitLily wrote:
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Sometimes people make announcements for the attention rather than because they are legitimately planning on leaving, I think.


Yes, for sure they do. They want people to beg them to stay, or something.


If I made a thread saying I was storming out because my feelings were hurt I'm pretty sure the responses would be good, f**k off.


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15 Jul 2023, 2:33 am

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i don't get why so many newer cars with those garish shiny big wheels and rubber band tires ride stiffly like they have no suspension at all, and why so many people like this state of affairs.


Because most newer cars are better for both compliance and road-handing compared to older ones. They don't need a huge sidewall in order to have compliance.

Platforms have become much, much stiffer than back in the day, by which I mean the structure the suspension is mounted to is much stiffer. Because of this, geometry remains consistent. Because of that, the suspension can be tuned for more compliance because there's less worry about the geometry changing because of chassis deformation.

Newer cars can't count on the sidewalls or chassis to absorb as much shock as in the past, but it barely matters in a practical sense. They'll just install moderately stiff dampers and soft springs because the geometry can be counted on working through it's entire range - the end result is a relatively soft car compared to a few decades ago.

If you want a luxury car that rides like a cloud, look to China because the rest of the world is interested in sports sedans.

i think people have better, younger, more shock-absorbing spinal and hip joints than this ol' geezer does. i rode in a late model mazda with those rubber band tires [40 series] and big wheels, and i could feel, sharply, every single bump on a highway that felt smooth as glass while riding in a toyota sienna with standard wheels/tires, 65 series rubber.


All I can say is, the the smaller sidewalls on the tires aren't at fault.

There's a number of components besides tires that contribute to how compliant a car rides and if the tires provide less dampening that can be compensated for elsewhere (like with different damper rates).

I'd be willing to bet the difference comes down to that Mazda tends to tune their suspension to be sporty meanwhile the Sienna is a >4000lb minivan with zero sporting pretensions. The Mazda weighs less, so it's going to get jostled more by bumps, but it's almost certainly tuned with an emphasis on road-holding rather than pretending it's a luxury barge.

Mazda positions itself as a sporty brand despite lacking a sports car at the moment, that means the 3 and 6 have to be among the best in their class for handling. They're going to trade some amount of compliance if it makes the car corner better. Even their crossovers try to pretend like they're relatively sporty, so it's something they do across their entire line-up.

It's not like a 3 or 6 is going to be accepted as a luxury barge, so there's no point trying to tune it's suspension like one. Further, luxury barges don't sell outside of China, even Americans don't like them anymore (otherwise Cadillac would still sell them instead of sports sedans).

It would make poor business sense to sell a car that struggles at pretending to be a the sort of car no one wants to own anymore when that same car can be itself and succeed.


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15 Jul 2023, 2:52 am

funeralxempire wrote:
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i don't get why so many newer cars with those garish shiny big wheels and rubber band tires ride stiffly like they have no suspension at all, and why so many people like this state of affairs.


Because most newer cars are better for both compliance and road-handing compared to older ones. They don't need a huge sidewall in order to have compliance.

Platforms have become much, much stiffer than back in the day, by which I mean the structure the suspension is mounted to is much stiffer. Because of this, geometry remains consistent. Because of that, the suspension can be tuned for more compliance because there's less worry about the geometry changing because of chassis deformation.

Newer cars can't count on the sidewalls or chassis to absorb as much shock as in the past, but it barely matters in a practical sense. They'll just install moderately stiff dampers and soft springs because the geometry can be counted on working through it's entire range - the end result is a relatively soft car compared to a few decades ago.

If you want a luxury car that rides like a cloud, look to China because the rest of the world is interested in sports sedans.

i think people have better, younger, more shock-absorbing spinal and hip joints than this ol' geezer does. i rode in a late model mazda with those rubber band tires [40 series] and big wheels, and i could feel, sharply, every single bump on a highway that felt smooth as glass while riding in a toyota sienna with standard wheels/tires, 65 series rubber.


All I can say is, the the smaller sidewalls on the tires aren't at fault.

There's a number of components besides tires that contribute to how compliant a car rides and if the tires provide less dampening that can be compensated for elsewhere (like with different damper rates).

I'd be willing to bet the difference comes down to that Mazda tends to tune their suspension to be sporty meanwhile the Sienna is a >4000lb minivan with zero sporting pretensions. The Mazda weighs less, so it's going to get jostled more by bumps, but it's almost certainly tuned with an emphasis on road-holding rather than pretending it's a luxury barge.

Mazda positions itself as a sporty brand despite lacking a sports car at the moment, that means the 3 and 6 have to be among the best in their class for handling. They're going to trade some amount of compliance if it makes the car corner better. Even their crossovers try to pretend like they're relatively sporty, so it's something they do across their entire line-up.

It's not like a 3 or 6 is going to be accepted as a luxury barge, so there's no point trying to tune it's suspension like one. Further, luxury barges don't sell outside of China, even Americans don't like them anymore (otherwise Cadillac would still sell them instead of sports sedans).

It would make poor business sense to sell a car that struggles at pretending to be a the sort of car no one wants to own anymore when that same car can be itself and succeed.

and that is why i much prefer older cars. they don't try to be sporty, but comfortable instead.



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15 Jul 2023, 3:02 am

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and that is why i much prefer older cars. they don't try to be sporty, but comfortable instead.


You mean Camaros and Fairlady Zs didn't really exist? 8O
I'm pretty sure there's two old sporty cars sitting in my car-hole.

The "garage"? Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.


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